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Hollister Hoodlum 05-10-2008, 01:20 AM New motor today, well new to me anyway...
going to rebuild a 1988 lincoln mark motor.
Payed for it today, supposed to pick it up tuesday!
What should i do to it?
Open to ideas.... i know i want a new cam and intake, but not sure if i can afford good heads or not.
GIVE ME IDEAS PLEASE!!!
Jasperstang308 05-10-2008, 01:45 AM http://www.mustangforums.com/fb.asp?m=5019839
Hollister Hoodlum 05-10-2008, 01:51 AM You can delete, sorry! i couldn't find the post.
mjr46 05-10-2008, 01:58 AM [sm=owned.gif]but seriously...your budget / how much Dinero you got will determine this
Hollister Hoodlum 05-10-2008, 02:28 AM well i spent 500 on the motor[&:] the only local one left, except one that was 350 that had a battery explosion/fire that melted the heads and intake....
So i should be looking at around 700-800 to play with...
Jasperstang308 05-10-2008, 03:42 AM ORIGINAL: Hollister Hoodlum
You can delete, sorry! i couldn't find the post.
chill dude i was just taking you back to what i was saying.
since your on a budget nothing really better than the gt40's and a trickflow cam is better than a e cam
stang8689 05-10-2008, 07:21 AM Should have tried to find an Explorer engine
mjr46 05-10-2008, 09:19 AM ORIGINAL: Hollister Hoodlum
well i spent 500 on the motor[&:] the only local one left, except one that was 350 that had a battery explosion/fire that melted the heads and intake....
So i should be looking at around 700-800 to play with...
well I assume your staying carbed which I'd reccommend with your budget...but 800 won't get you much...300 for a cam , 300-500 for gt-40 heads and 175 for a good dual plane intake, plus all gaskets and fluids will put build at 1000.00 and if it were me I'd strip the bone yard motor apart and put bearings and lightly hone it and new rings in and paint it blue call it new deal...that way you'd know the integrity of the motor going in ......with such a build above as long as you got gears and exhaust you should be able to run 13's, oh you'll also need to buy the proper valetrain components with cam upgrade;)
Hollister Hoodlum 05-10-2008, 12:49 PM alright, well i have the cam and intake picked out...
I want a set of gt-40 heads and want to get them ported... about how much would that cost... along with getting new rings and other things?
EDIT- all the explorer motors i found were missing heads and were just a block, and the guys wanted like 200 for just that.. so ill just try to find some gt-40 heads.
and i decided to get a trickflow cam, and the rpm air gap intake from edelbrock.
stang8689 05-10-2008, 06:19 PM Thats cool, its getting harder to find complete Explorer engines
floodzilla 05-10-2008, 07:00 PM how about a junkyard diy turbo system?:D
mjr46 05-11-2008, 12:52 AM ORIGINAL: Hollister Hoodlum
alright, well i have the cam and intake picked out...
I want a set of gt-40 heads and want to get them ported... about how much would that cost... along with getting new rings and other things?
EDIT- all the explorer motors i found were missing heads and were just a block, and the guys wanted like 200 for just that.. so ill just try to find some gt-40 heads.
and i decided to get a trickflow cam, and the rpm air gap intake from edelbrock.
NOW IF YOU CAN FIND THE HEADS AND GET THEM PORTED .you should have a decent little power plant;)
thrty5thsc 05-11-2008, 12:54 AM Ok, whats the deal with the Explorer heads? GT40? what years and how can you tell if there the right ones?
Jasperstang308 05-11-2008, 01:17 AM gt40 was 96-97.5 they will have 3 bars on them. gt40p's are from 97.5-2000 (please correct me if i am wrong it dont look right) IIRC and they have 4 bars on them
floodzilla 05-11-2008, 09:12 AM ^^^plus these heads were meant for a heavy truck, so they have better flow then the 5.0 which equals more power for less coin.
rmodel65 05-11-2008, 09:19 AM immediately go buy hot rod build that exact motor except add a forged rotating assembly so you can turn around 8000rpm and make over 500hp N/A[sm=wootwoot.gif][sm=wootwoot.gif][sm=wootwoot.gif][sm=yeahsmile.gif][sm=yeahsmile.gif][sm=yeahsmile.gif]
rmodel65 05-11-2008, 09:23 AM oops just realized you were on a budget, i concur on the gt40s and a nice cam
Hollister Hoodlum 05-11-2008, 12:58 PM how much should i pay for a set of gt-40 heads? i dont want to get screwed over, like some of the guys were trying to do yesterday.
(i don't look like the average car enthusiast) and im only 17... so some guys were trying to sell me a motor for 2k... so yeah... i want to have a basic idea of what the highest i should pay for a set of gt-40 heads should be.
And what to look for to be sure they are actually gt40 heads.... where are the 3 bars at?
rmodel65 05-11-2008, 01:25 PM explorer head 2-400$ for a remaned set from the zone is like 600$ so you dont want to go overboard i bought a complete explorer 5.0 motor for 200$ so it all depends on the seller. dont let the gt40p scare you away either, if you dont have headers you gotta buy some anyways right?
Hollister Hoodlum 05-11-2008, 03:42 PM haha i have shortys about how much does it cost to have a set of heads ported?
302army187 05-11-2008, 04:30 PM sweet bro! glad to see your finally doing something other then cosmetic!
do her right, take it appart, clean it up, and paint it.
gt40's and a cam would do wonders!
porting the gt40's could get expensive for your budget.
good luck!
Hollister Hoodlum 05-11-2008, 06:39 PM Well i can get more money if i need it... my starter is sh*t on my motor right now, so i have to push start it everywhere i go (by myself... i weigh 140 lbs... its tough) sooo yeah.... if i need more i can get more towards the build, rather than having to bust my a$$ to change the starter for a motor i don't plan on using
floodzilla 05-11-2008, 06:53 PM if you can scrap the motor, go with a 351, and down the road, turbo it!!
mjr46 05-11-2008, 08:18 PM ORIGINAL: floodzilla
if you can scrap the motor, go with a 351, and down the road, turbo it!!
:eek:why?? he's on a budget in his case a 351 swap is not the most economical way to go
floodzilla 05-11-2008, 08:26 PM why not? get a junkyard carb'd 351w, stuff it there which i cant see beeing too much of a problem.
mjr46 05-11-2008, 08:37 PM ORIGINAL: floodzilla
why not? get a junkyard carb'd 351w, stuff it there which i cant see beeing too much of a problem.
I guess it all depends on how much extra he can spring for like a new hood for clearance , headers and the few misc things;)
floodzilla 05-11-2008, 08:57 PM yea i know he likes the bling,unlike me whereid just cut a hole in the hood and get one of those jegs scoops.:Dbut then again, i did paint my truck with spray paint.
Hollister Hoodlum 05-12-2008, 12:04 AM LOL ok ok....351 is my DREAM, but i A can't afford a one OR the gas prices[:@]
I drive like 30 miles in town to get to work [&:] with gas almost $4 a gallon (locally) i can't afford it.
So i'm just doing a mild 302 build for now, till i can afford something else thats nice...
Oh and i make sh*t for money cause im only 17, and work basically minimum wage... ANYWHO!
I'm getting a trickflow cam, edelbrock rpm air gap intake. And i'm shopping around for gt-40 heads (IF ANYBODY HAS ANY FOR CHEAP LET ME KNOW PLEASE!)
This will be my first engine rebuild, and as you can tell im really nervous about messing it up, and i want to get the most power for my money....
Does this sound like a decent set up? or what else should i be looking for?
Oh, another question, what carburater should i run with this setup... the one i have on my current engine blows dick. so i need to find something that will be sufficent for the build, but nothing to serious.
Thanks for all the help and ideas guys. i really appreciate it.
mjr46 05-12-2008, 12:08 AM ORIGINAL: Hollister Hoodlum
LOL ok ok....351 is my DREAM, but i A can't afford a one OR the gas prices[:@]
I drive like 30 miles in town to get to work [&:] with gas almost $4 a gallon (locally) i can't afford it.
So i'm just doing a mild 302 build for now, till i can afford something else thats nice...
Oh and i make sh*t for money cause im only 17, and work basically minimum wage... ANYWHO!
I'm getting a trickflow cam, edelbrock rpm air gap intake. And i'm shopping around for gt-40 heads (IF ANYBODY HAS ANY FOR CHEAP LET ME KNOW PLEASE!)
This will be my first engine rebuild, and as you can tell im really nervous about messing it up, and i want to get the most power for my money....
Does this sound like a decent set up? or what else should i be looking for?
Oh, another question, what carburater should i run with this setup... the one i have on my current engine blows dick. so i need to find something that will be sufficent for the build, but nothing to serious.
Thanks for all the help and ideas guys. i really appreciate it.
I have an edelbrock 1405/600cfm on my 92 with an f-cam , ported e7's and performer 289 intake and it runs well...a 600 should be all you need on that build....just tune it right and you'll be fine
thrty5thsc 05-12-2008, 12:18 AM One of the most common mistakes people make is too much carb. 600 will do it.
floodzilla 05-12-2008, 09:27 AM i understand, gas prices suck! anyways, i wouldnt go anything over a 650 carb
302army187 05-12-2008, 07:32 PM how easy is it to tune a carbed car?
my brother is asking me all kinds of questions about 'stangs, but the one hes looking at is carbed, and idk jack about carb's
floodzilla 05-12-2008, 07:40 PM its no that hard, you just change the jet size to get the correct a/f ratio.
Hollister Hoodlum 05-12-2008, 11:09 PM Thanks for the info...
whats the best company to go through? i want one that is easy to tune, and is reliable....
Hollister Hoodlum 05-13-2008, 12:05 AM Ok, so if i were to buy a topend kit from trickflow....
that is for fuel injected... what would i need to do to convert the wiring harness???
Would a normal wiring harness work for a 1988 5.0 from painless... or would what would i need... since my car is an 84... i have no idea.. im new to all the car stuff... and everybody around here is wanting me to look at other options.... Soooo, what all would be needed to do this?
white94 05-13-2008, 12:03 PM I would stick with the carb setup IMO for the ease of things considering this is your first build. Going EFI is gonna cost more coin than just sticking an edelbrock 600 on with the setup your looking at (GT-40's, TFS 1 cam) and maybe a set of long tubes......they are like a $100 from Jegs.
floodzilla 05-13-2008, 02:07 PM yea i agree stick with carb, id go with a holley 650 street carb
white94 05-13-2008, 03:20 PM Where do you live at in Wichita? Never seen your stang around town...I live in college hill and work near the airport on the west side
sYckmYnded 05-13-2008, 03:49 PM well you kinda over paid for the motor, but to have a good port job done your looking about $350
i paid $250 for a complete running motor out of a wrecked 5.0 explorer so just be paitent man, if you rush into this you will be broke WAY before the motor is done. i acculy have a complete motor for sale that is ready to be crated up and shiped to you if you wanna go that route? and its not that expensive either. pm me for info if you wanna no about it. its ruffly 345hp. it dynoed at 366hp at the crank soooo say 330-345hp at the wheels
Hollister Hoodlum 05-14-2008, 12:00 AM hahah and how much are you wanting for this motor?
Well i live in Bel Aire....
But i work at the mall on the east side of town so my car is at the mall a lot by the Bank of America parking lot... i don't have a set schedule so i can't tell you when i would be there...
mjr46 05-14-2008, 12:10 AM ORIGINAL: Hollister Hoodlum
Thanks for the info...
whats the best company to go through? i want one that is easy to tune, and is reliable....
edelbrock or carter afb= same...and buy the calibration kit= tune kit
Hollister Hoodlum 05-14-2008, 12:19 AM oh ok:D
Thanks a lot for all the help.... whichever route i go ill be asking lots of questions im sure.
I just want to get this done!
94gtcobra 05-14-2008, 12:39 AM I would say to go with and E cam with 1.7 rr and a 600/650 carb set up with gt-40's. Im running a similar set up except mine is efi, look in my sig. I also have a 67 with an older block converted to roller with an e cam, ported 289 heads, performer 289 intake with edelbrok 700 carb with a c4 tranny with 3000 stallman that thing pulls like a beast.
I dont know much about the trickflow stg. 1 cam but id rather take the e cam. Its your decision.
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