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ScottXL -> S/C Doesn't seem worth it... (read more inside) (5/8/2008 5:28:03 PM)
Well, I was going to sell my Mustang and buy a 240sx... after a week of trying to sell, I gave up and just said "I'm just gunna try to make it fast." I started looking up superchargers. I decided to go with Procharger. But, of course, I'm not gunna throw down 4K on a S/C I don't know about. So I asked for some information. The customer service was amazing (at least shipping). It came two days later. Inside, though, had troubling news. At the crank, a stock V6 SN95 Mustang produces 150 HP. While the stock V6 New Edge Mustangs produce 193 HP. This was troubling enough... but it gets worse. Strapped with a Procharger boosting an impressive 11psi, the stock SN95 will produce 270 HP at the crank. Boosting 11psi with a stock V6 New Edge, it produces 345 HP at the crank. Yes... that ".1L" will produce roughly 65 more HP at the crank with the same pressure. This is really... depressing. Now I'm looking to sell my V6 and get a GT. They produce 260 HP at the crank stock. [BTW, the 11psi S/C from Procharger for a SN95 Mustang costs approximately $4k. But I'm not sure if that includes shipping or not] For 4K I can buy a GT. However, I decided to test my limits in other things. I'm looking into getting a new block built. A 4.2L V6 with forged rods and all of that good stuff. It should be aroudn the same weight as the stock V6, so I might not have to swap my suspension. So far, he's quoted me for ~$2.5K. Not including the installation. Which I might do myself. But, it depends. [That price includes the engine block, not the ECU, wiring harness, injectors, power sterring pump or alternator. You re-use from the stock.] However, I'm still nto sure if it's worth it. That's a lot of money / work. Although, it would be bada$$ to put a 252 badge on my Mustang. ^_^ Thoughts?

VCS_SSSTANG -> RE: S/C Doesn't seem worth it... (read more inside) (5/8/2008 5:40:59 PM)
It has nothing to do with .1L, its the fact tha the 99-04 mustangs have split port intakes.

skitso -> RE: S/C Doesn't seem worth it... (read more inside) (5/8/2008 5:44:14 PM)
hey vcs sold that charger yet

VCS_SSSTANG -> RE: S/C Doesn't seem worth it... (read more inside) (5/8/2008 5:45:40 PM)
No, but i'm not going to. I'm going to upgrade[:D][:D][:D] However, their is one for sale over on v6power.net

fuertemustang -> RE: S/C Doesn't seem worth it... (read more inside) (5/8/2008 5:48:45 PM)
what are you upgrade to?

VCS_SSSTANG -> RE: S/C Doesn't seem worth it... (read more inside) (5/8/2008 6:03:42 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: fuertemustang what are you upgrade to? only time will tell :D

ScottXL -> RE: S/C Doesn't seem worth it... (read more inside) (5/8/2008 6:18:51 PM)
The least you can do is sell me your S/C for dead cheap now that you thread-jacked me. :P

Cowboy88 -> RE: S/C Doesn't seem worth it... (read more inside) (5/8/2008 7:01:07 PM)
For the record, not all New Edges have the 3.9L, and the 3 hp difference wouldn't be noticeable. Do a split-port swap to your SN-95 and you'll see numbers like with the New Edges. The intake is where those extra ponies are coming from, like VCS said.

ScottXL -> RE: S/C Doesn't seem worth it... (read more inside) (5/8/2008 7:07:05 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Cowboy88 For the record, not all New Edges have the 3.9L, and the 3 hp difference wouldn't be noticeable. Do a split-port swap to your SN-95 and you'll see numbers like with the New Edges. The intake is where those extra ponies are coming from, like VCS said. I guess your math is off. 193 (NE Mustang) - 150 (SN95) = 43 HP. But, that's true. I can do a split-port swap. But how much does that cost?

NYstang -> RE: S/C Doesn't seem worth it... (read more inside) (5/8/2008 7:15:51 PM)
where they heck is he getting .1L? looking at the late 04 models?

VCS_SSSTANG -> RE: S/C Doesn't seem worth it... (read more inside) (5/8/2008 7:15:55 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: ScottXL quote: ORIGINAL: Cowboy88 For the record, not all New Edges have the 3.9L, and the 3 hp difference wouldn't be noticeable. Do a split-port swap to your SN-95 and you'll see numbers like with the New Edges. The intake is where those extra ponies are coming from, like VCS said. I guess your math is off. 193 (NE Mustang) - 150 (SN95) = 43 HP. But, that's true. I can do a split-port swap. But how much does that cost? 99-03 mustang is still a 3.8L as well as half the 04's, they claim "190" hp. The 1/2 Late 04's are 3.9L they claim "193" rwhp.

ScottXL -> RE: S/C Doesn't seem worth it... (read more inside) (5/8/2008 7:27:58 PM)
Okay, I'm corrected. Thanks. I didn't know.

l_shizzle_l -> RE: S/C Doesn't seem worth it... (read more inside) (5/9/2008 12:19:51 AM)
A forged 4.2L block is the way to go man, toss some boost at at that and really get some impressive numbers. 400+hp can be done easily with that motor.

ayrton02 -> RE: S/C Doesn't seem worth it... (read more inside) (5/9/2008 6:10:58 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: l_shizzle_l A forged 4.2L block is the way to go man, toss some boost at at that and really get some impressive numbers. 400+hp can be done easily with that motor. That + if you you are really good or could find someone to get you a splitpot swap and then the m112 setup (or a kenne bell...... someone NEEDS to do this!!!!) [:D]

Mattwood440 -> RE: S/C Doesn't seem worth it... (read more inside) (5/9/2008 7:59:37 AM)
I'd have to agree with the topic. Remember all the extra stuff that goes into the GT from the factory, too. Upgrade all that and you're way over the price you'd pay for a GT. BUT, doing up a V6 is unique, if you got the money to burn (I don't).

nanaki -> RE: S/C Doesn't seem worth it... (read more inside) (5/9/2008 8:04:33 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Mattwood440 I'd have to agree with the topic. Remember all the extra stuff that goes into the GT from the factory, too. Upgrade all that and you're way over the price you'd pay for a GT. BUT, doing up a V6 is unique, if you got the money to burn (I don't). unless you go dumpster diving at junk yards

Mattwood440 -> RE: S/C Doesn't seem worth it... (read more inside) (5/9/2008 8:40:45 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: nanaki quote: ORIGINAL: Mattwood440 I'd have to agree with the topic. Remember all the extra stuff that goes into the GT from the factory, too. Upgrade all that and you're way over the price you'd pay for a GT. BUT, doing up a V6 is unique, if you got the money to burn (I don't). unless you go dumpster diving at junk yards True, true. But then you're talking about parts with questionable histories (BTW, I like the LKQ chain of junkyards cuz they have 6 month warranties on most their stuff) and, more importantly, time, which = money. Then again, like I said, doing a V6 shows that you put a lot of effort into it, and if that's your thing [sm=smiley20.gif]

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