I've noticed over the past few months that there is gonna be some pretty badass cars coming out within the next few years. So out of these cars, real and concept, which one do you guys think will be the biggest bang and come out to be a great tuner car?

2010-2011 Ford Mustang
2009-2010 Chevy Camaro
2010-2011 Pontiac GTO
2010-2011 Pontiac Trans Am
2009 Dodge Challenger
2010 Hyundai Genesis
2010-2011 Nissan 240sx
2010-2011 Toyota Celica
2010-2011 Toyota Supra

Now I know that some of these cars probably wont make it onto showroom floors, but there are talks of all of them as of now. I honestly think the Genesis and 240sx will be big hits with everyone.

Hrrmm.. that's kind of a tough one.. I would think that most of those cars on that list will be big with the tuning community. Though I'd have to say the new mustang, the new Camaro, the new GTO if it ever comes out, and the new T/A if it ever comes out will be big ones.

I think a lot of it depends on which community you're talking about though. The ricers will be ALL over the new Supra, the new Celica and the new S-18 (I THINK that's what it'd be, though I"m not sure..) The Genesis I"m not so sure of, because it doesn't have as much "history" with the tuner community, so it might take a little while for people to warm up to it methinks. Though once it starts catching on it wouldn't surprise me. The Tibby's a$$bagishness did a lot to sully the waters for people that would've normally been Hyundai fans I think.

The newest issue of Street Tuner magazine has the Genesis in there saying it could be the next drift car. I honestly think if it has the aftermarket support, it could be the new Civic or Integra, by new I mean the next best tuner.

I wouldnt consider owners who want a Supra or Celica ricers, only if they add a 5" tip on their exhaust with a 3 tier wing and 20" rims with a non painted bodykit. I like the new Supra, but I dont think its for me. Both of my Stangs should be paid off around 2010 so I'll be on the hunt for my next car. Going from paying $910 per month for my cars to $0 is gonna be badass, might just pickup the new Vette by then, or a Cobra if SVT wants to make one.

Can't forget the new Dodge Challenger

Very true about the Challenger, I'll add it. It should be a pretty sweet car that can be built, and it actually has a 6spd manual coming in it, and the R/T has a manual option. :D

It's going to be a huge improvement over the Charger

what about those new turbo slobalts, they look like they will have some serious potential once the aftermarket gets some parts for them


plus they are super cheap

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what about those new turbo slobalts, they look like they will have some serious potential once the aftermarket gets some parts for them


plus they are super cheap


+1

won't it already have some aftermarket considering that the motor has been in the Solstice and Sky for a little while now?? it's literally the same 2.0 turboed Ecotec motor.

^^^^ they do have aftermarket but for ive heard on the cobaltss.net site that is very limited to the amount of power the trans will take and the block as well. iwhine may be able to chime in a drop some wisdom from his future herd.

and btw 2010-2011 GTO, Supra, Celica are only rumors as of now so dont take this car into account cuz they are not announced to be produced yet,

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what about those new turbo slobalts, they look like they will have some serious potential once the aftermarket gets some parts for them


plus they are super cheap
+1!!! Bang for the buck this car looks like a winner.5 grand in mods and it should be in the 11s no problem. Motor trend just got a 13.9 @ 102.5 bone stock. I also think the turbo hyundi genesis (225hp)could be a real winner. It's the same motor that powers the Evo and Caliber SRT-4 and they are close to 300 HP stock. Still for max power you can beat the V8s

How about the BMW 135i? Too pricey for the list?

the new evo and sti got left off the list too. don't they get to play?

If the new Fbodies turn out anything like the LS1-powered ones, I'd go with them. I am a little biased though. lol

what about the nissan gtr

Let some tuner guys get ahold of one or two of the new GT-R's and evrythiung on the street will be pwned.
I'll take 900 awd hp andyday s0ns..........

i actually looking forward to seeing the genisis come out, a good friend of mine has an 05 tib and i must say if you put a little more balls in that car and added the awd it would be a wickid car.

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what about the nissan gtr


we're talking cars that most people can buy here.:eek: last i checked, not many people could afford $118k for a car (dealer markup here in Sioux Falls rapes everyone for that car)

srt-4 owns them all :D

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what about those new turbo slobalts, they look like they will have some serious potential once the aftermarket gets some parts for them


plus they are super cheap


That was actually gonna be my next car I purchased this month or whenever they came out, but I figured with all the new cars coming out in 2010-2011, I'd wait and see what I have to choose from. Everyone knows I'm an Ecotec Nutswinger!! :D

Like I already mentioned, some of these cars are just rumors, but I still wanted to see your guys opinions on which ones would be great for modding if they were produced. The new Evo and Sti are already out, hence why it didnt make my list, and the new GTR is way too expensive for the list.

Honestly nothing can top a V8 for bang-for-buck. Throw some drag radials and a nice shot of nitrous and you have a car that is pretty quick for almost no money invested. I'd say the new Camaro will be the best, followed by the Mustang.

Although those new Slobalts aren't sounding too bad.

the cobalt's motor will be fine, there is good power to be had from it. All it really needs is a tune, tbe, a few other bolt ons and it will make the same power my car makes for much less. The trans is iffy on it, i will wait to make judgment till i see a few go.

Since I'm an Ecotec Nutswinger I might have to break down and get the new Cobalt. As much as I would love to have the new Mustang when it comes out in 2010 or 2011, I've wanted an Ecotec project for awhile now. I'm in a bind!! [:@]

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what about those new turbo slobalts, they look like they will have some serious potential once the aftermarket gets some parts for them


plus they are super cheap


That was actually gonna be my next car I purchased this month or whenever they came out, but I figured with all the new cars coming out in 2010-2011, I'd wait and see what I have to choose from. Everyone knows I'm an Ecotec Nutswinger!! :D



There is a guy at work that has a buddy that works for a GM dealership and he is apparently getting one as soon as they come out here (next month I have heard)


I hope to see a few at the track this summer, I think they will do alot better in our thin air then the old s/c ones did (even the modded ones had a hard time breaking out of the 15's up here)

The car is designed to make 260hp no matter what, elevation will have nothing to do with it anymore.

so if you dragged one up to mount everest it would make the same power[8D]


That turbo had to max out at some point:D

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so if you dragged one up to mount everest it would make the same power[8D]


That turbo had to max out at some point:D



lol, the car's pcm will up the boost at higher elevation to make up the lost power, which is why some people are going to see 16 psi some will see 20.

The high-altitude performance of a turbocharged engine is significantly better. Because of the lower air pressure at high altitudes, the power loss of a naturally aspirated engine is considerable. In contrast, the performance of the turbine (Turbo) improves at altitude as a result of the greater pressure difference between the virtually constant pressure upstream of the turbine and the lower ambient pressure at outlet. The lower air density at the compressor inlet is largely equalized. Hence, the engine has barely any power loss.

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How about the BMW 135i? Too pricey for the list?


That'll be a force to be reckoned with! I think stock it said 0-60 : 5.0, and didn't mention any other specs. I think it has tremendous potential, and is in the same ballpark in price as the other cars mentioned. The slobalt although it will be a real contender, is quite steep in price! nearly $23k for a cobalt?! Way to much!

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what about those new turbo slobalts, they look like they will have some serious potential once the aftermarket gets some parts for them


plus they are super cheap
+1!!! Bang for the buck this car looks like a winner.5 grand in mods and it should be in the 11s no problem. Motor trend just got a 13.9 @ 102.5 bone stock. I also think the turbo hyundi genesis (225hp)could be a real winner. It's the same motor that powers the Evo and Caliber SRT-4 and they are close to 300 HP stock. Still for max power you can beat the V8s


Since when has the SRT4 had an EVO motor? It has a Mitsubishi turbo but the motor itself is completely different. For a start there is a 0.4 litre difference between the engines.

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what about those new turbo slobalts, they look like they will have some serious potential once the aftermarket gets some parts for them


plus they are super cheap
+1!!! Bang for the buck this car looks like a winner.5 grand in mods and it should be in the 11s no problem. Motor trend just got a 13.9 @ 102.5 bone stock. I also think the turbo hyundi genesis (225hp)could be a real winner. It's the same motor that powers the Evo and Caliber SRT-4 and they are close to 300 HP stock. Still for max power you can beat the V8s


Since when has the SRT4 had an EVO motor? It has a Mitsubishi turbo but the motor itself is completely different. For a start there is a 0.4 litre difference between the engines.

The new Caliber SRT-4 & the Evo 10share the same world motor as the new forth coming genesis coupe base engineturbo 4. check it out in motor trend, car & driver etc. Remember theres more than one SRT-4 out there now. They even talked about having an all wheel drive Caliber srt-4 like the evos systembut went away from that idea because they thought it would turn off the target buyers. The cheap buyers.

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srt-4 owns them all :D



No, No, No, don't you know HONDA owns ALLL!!!! Get a clue noob! :D

^^^my bad, i forgot HONDA has Very Tall Engine Coolant monsters [8D]

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what about those new turbo slobalts, they look like they will have some serious potential once the aftermarket gets some parts for them


plus they are super cheap
+1!!! Bang for the buck this car looks like a winner.5 grand in mods and it should be in the 11s no problem. Motor trend just got a 13.9 @ 102.5 bone stock. I also think the turbo hyundi genesis (225hp)could be a real winner. It's the same motor that powers the Evo and Caliber SRT-4 and they are close to 300 HP stock. Still for max power you can beat the V8s


Since when has the SRT4 had an EVO motor? It has a Mitsubishi turbo but the motor itself is completely different. For a start there is a 0.4 litre difference between the engines.

The new Caliber SRT-4 & the Evo 10share the same world motor as the new forth coming genesis coupe base engineturbo 4. check it out in motor trend, car & driver etc. Remember theres more than one SRT-4 out there now. They even talked about having an all wheel drive Caliber srt-4 like the evos systembut went away from that idea because they thought it would turn off the target buyers. The cheap buyers.


They are the same engine series. Different engine however. Its like saying the 5.4 4 valve in the GT500 is the same as the 4.6 3 valve in the GT. They are somewhat similar but rather different at the same time.

I wouldn't be seen dead in a Caliber SRT4, even if it ran 8's. That thing is beyond fugly.

^ I agree with you there. They sell them over here in the UK as well. Well they sell the normal versions no SRT4 yet. Went to look at one for my mother as we thought it would make a decent car for moving the dogs about and also fitting her wheelchair in.

I thought it was rubbish. Build quality on them is terrible everything feels cheap and plasticy they also look crap don't drive nicely either. Was not impressed by them. When the French are building supermini hatchbacks (Yaris size) with better build quality it says something. As French cars are typically quite ****ty...with the exception of mine which happens to be rather good.

Weirdly though the Caliber seems to keep its money very well out here which is unusual..Still wouldn't buy one though we have instead looked at getting a Citroen C4 Grand Picasso.

The caliber srt-4 looks way better in person than it does over the web. However, i would not buy one for myself i rather have the new evo but is way out of my league price wise [:@]

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what about those new turbo slobalts, they look like they will have some serious potential once the aftermarket gets some parts for them


plus they are super cheap
+1!!! Bang for the buck this car looks like a winner.5 grand in mods and it should be in the 11s no problem. Motor trend just got a 13.9 @ 102.5 bone stock. I also think the turbo hyundi genesis (225hp)could be a real winner. It's the same motor that powers the Evo and Caliber SRT-4 and they are close to 300 HP stock. Still for max power you can beat the V8s


Since when has the SRT4 had an EVO motor? It has a Mitsubishi turbo but the motor itself is completely different. For a start there is a 0.4 litre difference between the engines.

The new Caliber SRT-4 & the Evo 10share the same world motor as the new forth coming genesis coupe base engineturbo 4. check it out in motor trend, car & driver etc. Remember theres more than one SRT-4 out there now. They even talked about having an all wheel drive Caliber srt-4 like the evos systembut went away from that idea because they thought it would turn off the target buyers. The cheap buyers.


They are the same engine series. Different engine however. Its like saying the 5.4 4 valve in the GT500 is the same as the 4.6 3 valve in the GT. They are somewhat similar but rather different at the same time.

All righty then, moving on!

I would have prefered if they made the avenger the SRT-4 instead of the caliber. I'm with you bicky. That may very well be the ugliest car sinse the gremlin or the pacer!

Ya I really like the looks of the avenger, its too bad they don't have an srt version of it

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The high-altitude performance of a turbocharged engine is significantly better. Because of the lower air pressure at high altitudes, the power loss of a naturally aspirated engine is considerable. In contrast, the performance of the turbine (Turbo) improves at altitude as a result of the greater pressure difference between the virtually constant pressure upstream of the turbine and the lower ambient pressure at outlet. The lower air density at the compressor inlet is largely equalized. Hence, the engine has barely any power loss.


What book/website you copy that from? Cite your sources!

he got it from the website that tells you to drain your oil and fill your engine with water to clean it


www.drainyouroilandreplacewithwater.com (http://www.drainyouroilandreplacewithwater.com)

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The high-altitude performance of a turbocharged engine is significantly better. Because of the lower air pressure at high altitudes, the power loss of a naturally aspirated engine is considerable. In contrast, the performance of the turbine (Turbo) improves at altitude as a result of the greater pressure difference between the virtually constant pressure upstream of the turbine and the lower ambient pressure at outlet. The lower air density at the compressor inlet is largely equalized. Hence, the engine has barely any power loss.


What book/website you copy that from? Cite your sources!

Here ya go, If this doesn't make sense to you PM me and I'll explain it to you in simplier terms.:D
http://www.turbodriven.com/en/turbofacts/advantages.aspx

Ahhh! I was right! Damn I'm good!