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mustang vs trans am - 5/7/2008 11:57:33 PM   
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i have a 2006 mustang gt manual with longtube jba headers, offroad midpipe (eliminates cats), kn intake, and magnaflow exhaust. my friend with a 2002 ws6 stock convertible automatic trans am wants to race me. of course i am going to do it but what does everyone think the result will be cuz those cars r pretty quick. has anyone with a new gt raced one of them before??
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RE: mustang vs trans am - 5/8/2008 12:12:42 AM   
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Thats a tough one because you guys are sitting pretty close on power levels. They have what like 330rwhp stock? With your bolt ons you should be around 300rwhp. Who tuned your car as well that is whats going to play the biggest part in the race in your tune.

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RE: mustang vs trans am - 5/8/2008 3:26:34 AM   
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drivers race IMO - the fact that he's a vert helps you.  iirc they are 330 bhp

you get a good launch and that'll be 1/2 the battle


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RE: mustang vs trans am - 5/8/2008 3:35:29 AM   
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A stock WS6 is putting down like 295-305rwhp, depending on the dyno and other factors.  If you can drive you should win.  You have a 12 second car if you hook and drive, and with his auto and vert, he is probably a mid 13 second car.

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RE: mustang vs trans am - 5/8/2008 4:29:46 AM   
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Should be a good race, give it a shot see what happens, I'd give it to the '06 GT

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RE: mustang vs trans am - 5/8/2008 5:10:53 AM   
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id say the trans am...

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RE: mustang vs trans am - 5/8/2008 5:36:39 AM   
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Hrrmmm.. methinks this will be a close one. An 06 GT with headers, mids and exhaust vs an LS1 WS6 with an auto is gonna be down to the drivers. Cause if he's got stock gears on the WS6 that'll hurt him a little bit, but the auto is going to help on the launch cause that'll fairly well eliminate any driver-mod flubs on the launch. I would say your best chance would probably be from a 35-40 roll, which is usually a sweet spot for stock-ish GT's in 2nd gear. Though one screw up and the WS6'll have ya..

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RE: mustang vs trans am - 5/8/2008 5:53:59 AM   
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This is what you call, hitting the nail on the head.  Just practice before you go out and race him...

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A stock WS6 is putting down like 295-305rwhp, depending on the dyno and other factors.  If you can drive you should win.  You have a 12 second car if you hook and drive, and with his auto and vert, he is probably a mid 13 second car.


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RE: mustang vs trans am - 5/8/2008 5:58:24 AM   
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If there was tune involved I would be leaning to the GT here, but I don't see one, I think it's going to be a drivers race IMHO... but I've seen enough 01+ Autos crack 13.0~13.2s @ 106~107mph to know they can be evil even with the 4L60E pushing.

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RE: mustang vs trans am - 5/8/2008 7:40:41 AM   
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im a GM fanboy for sure but i think this is a drivers race with a ever so slight edge for u, just dont screw the launch at all, because any edge for either of u is gonna spell doom for the other

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RE: mustang vs trans am - 5/8/2008 7:50:56 AM   
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I think you'll pull on him. It's gunna be a great race though.

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RE: mustang vs trans am - 5/8/2008 10:26:06 AM   
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I think the GT has  this one, just dont f.....k ur lauch or u will playing catch up

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RE: mustang vs trans am - 5/8/2008 11:08:24 AM   
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and with his auto and vert, he is probably a mid 13 second car.


Wrong again... 02's can run a 13.0 all day, vert or not there only 100lbs heavier if that.

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RE: mustang vs trans am - 5/8/2008 12:31:30 PM   
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ORIGINAL: 1BAD3V
and with his auto and vert, he is probably a mid 13 second car.


Wrong again... 02's can run a 13.0 all day, vert or not there only 100lbs heavier if that.



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RE: mustang vs trans am - 5/8/2008 12:41:22 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: 1BAD3V

A stock WS6 is putting down like 295-305rwhp, depending on the dyno and other factors.  If you can drive you should win.  You have a 12 second car if you hook and drive, and with his auto and vert, he is probably a mid 13 second car.


yes, but what is the TA's trap speed?


still, drivers race....

good luck, get a vid if the race does happen

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RE: mustang vs trans am - 5/8/2008 12:48:17 PM   
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A stock automatic F-body will not run 13.0. Maybe 13.2 with a freakish specimen and great weather conditions. It probably is more like a mid 13 second car (13.3 or so).

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RE: mustang vs trans am - 5/8/2008 12:50:46 PM   
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A stock automatic F-body will not run 13.0. Maybe 13.2 with a freakish specimen and great weather conditions. It probably is more like a mid 13 second car (13.3 or so).


bingo

my friend's stock auto Z28 went 13.22 @ 108

like i said, if this is going down on the street, esp from a roll... trap speed is what will matter

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RE: mustang vs trans am - 5/8/2008 1:01:28 PM   
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If you are an average driver then its a toss up.  If your even slightly better than average than you should win.  

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RE: mustang vs trans am - 5/8/2008 2:44:08 PM   
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A stock automatic F-body will not run 13.0. Maybe 13.2 with a freakish specimen and great weather conditions. It probably is more like a mid 13 second car (13.3 or so).


Rarely if ever do I disagree with you but this is one of those times...

I've personally witnessed 13.0s and 13.1s from bone stock automatic WS6, Firehawk and Camaro SS cars at several track rentals in good weather....

Even more amazing...
http://www.svtperformance.com/forums/showthread.php?t=449809&highlight=Stock


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RE: mustang vs trans am - 5/8/2008 3:07:34 PM   
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Even then, they will be at similar weight, similar gearing, with a bit more power for the GT.  Full Exhaust, and intake, that has to be good for something.  Most S197's manual dyno around 260 whp stock, and about 280 wtq.  So, removing the cats, adding headers, and allowing the car to breathe better, I'd say he is around 300 whp, and about 315 wtq.  So, get racing, and make sure you launch properly.  

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