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RE: Guy with a stock GT500 talking smack about the Z06 - 5/8/2008 6:21:00 AM   
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I think you have the win on a stock GT500.  If he spent $1100 on an evolution stage 2 and some gears I think he would have the edge. Stock for stock, Z06 wins.
i hope u are kidding right, check this out
 
http://youtube.com/watch?v=UsoN157-M00

Gt-500 stock will be anally destroyed by a C6 Z06 from a dig or roll


Doesn't seem exactly right for that GT500 to get pulled on by C6Z given the HP#s of the cars.  It happens.
alright please chime in and tell us why!!! Sure 640 rwhp (GT-500)sounds a lot against 501rwhp (C6 Z06) but when u take the following variables into account then u realize why the z06 still pull like a mofo on topend.





3150 Lbs
Curb Weight, Pounds, (About 100 pounds less than a regular coupe.)
.28 drag coefficient
 

GT -500:
Weights: curb weight (lbs) 3,920
38 drag coefficient

I would say that 770lbs lighter and almost a 1.0 difference in drag forces and way better suspension to put down 501rwhp for the z06 will take car of a 640rwhp Shelby GT-500. Either way that link was just to show that with a few bolt ons the C6 Z06 still held his own and stood like a champ with a heavy modified Shelby. Now a stock Shelby will be toast against a Stockish Z06.


Were the gold chains and pinky rings factored into the 3150 lbs of curb weight for the Z06?

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RE: Guy with a stock GT500 talking smack about the Z06 - 5/8/2008 6:22:23 AM   
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I'd love to line up with a Z06 around my neck of the woods. It would be entertaining watching the 80 year old driver (always are) try to work his way through the gears. I just seriously can't find a vette on the roads in MN being driven by a guy under the age of 55. Needless to say, they are more into the show than the go.


All the people I know who own GT500s are well into their 60s around here. Same with the Vette's though.

As for racing a stock GT500, a guy at work has an 07 vert (just a Ford racing CAI and the tune that comes with it) and raced another coworker in an 07 Z06 and was raped very very badly, both are so-so drivers.

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RE: Guy with a stock GT500 talking smack about the Z06 - 5/8/2008 6:33:55 AM   
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My dad has an 03 zo6 millenium yellow, it has a blakwing intake and kooks longtubes and catted X.  Two days after the header install on my way to prom,(daddy let me take his car) i ran into a red gt500 and he was talking smak at a light, there were some people infront of me we were like third in line and i said well you wanna run that thing, he goes "this thing has 500 horsepower" i said i dont care how uch it has cause it aint enough.  He says " fine you will find out the hard way so we cruise to the next light and it turns yellow as we approach so we stop and are first at line at the light.  the light turns green and we both floor it, each hitting the rev limiter in first, when i grab second im a fender in front, by the time i hit third im 3/4 infront, when i shut it off in 4th @ 110 im a car and a half.  enough said.

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RE: Guy with a stock GT500 talking smack about the Z06 - 5/8/2008 7:14:52 AM   
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My dad has an 03 zo6 millenium yellow, it has a blakwing intake and kooks longtubes and catted X.  Two days after the header install on my way to prom,(daddy let me take his car) i ran into a red gt500 and he was talking smak at a light, there were some people infront of me we were like third in line and i said well you wanna run that thing, he goes "this thing has 500 horsepower" i said i dont care how uch it has cause it aint enough.  He says " fine you will find out the hard way so we cruise to the next light and it turns yellow as we approach so we stop and are first at line at the light.  the light turns green and we both floor it, each hitting the rev limiter in first, when i grab second im a fender in front, by the time i hit third im 3/4 infront, when i shut it off in 4th @ 110 im a car and a half.  enough said.


Hmmm.. Im not one to preach but daddy needs to hide his keys from you.


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RE: Guy with a stock GT500 talking smack about the Z06 - 5/8/2008 7:45:58 AM   
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I think you have the win on a stock GT500.  If he spent $1100 on an evolution stage 2 and some gears I think he would have the edge. Stock for stock, Z06 wins.
i hope u are kidding right, check this out
 
http://youtube.com/watch?v=UsoN157-M00

Gt-500 stock will be anally destroyed by a C6 Z06 from a dig or roll


+1

I can pull on a GT500 and the C6Z makes me look retarded. This is not even going to be a race. The cobra owner is going to look like a fool.


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RE: Guy with a stock GT500 talking smack about the Z06 - 5/8/2008 9:58:09 AM   
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Why are people putting up videos of modified gt500 (KB) videos? This is a stock vs stock race...The truth is you need to dump another 5K into a KB to hang with a stock Zo6.

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RE: Guy with a stock GT500 talking smack about the Z06 - 5/8/2008 10:13:10 AM   
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Why are people putting up videos of modified gt500 (KB) videos? This is a stock vs stock race...The truth is you need to dump another 5K into a KB to hang with a stock Zo6.

I think they are probably implying that it takes money for gt500 to beat one....     I think if u READ u will actully see we are agreeing that the GT500 guy is a DOuche.  


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RE: Guy with a stock GT500 talking smack about the Z06 - 5/8/2008 10:18:26 AM   
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I think you have the win on a stock GT500.  If he spent $1100 on an evolution stage 2 and some gears I think he would have the edge. Stock for stock, Z06 wins.
i hope u are kidding right, check this out
 
http://youtube.com/watch?v=UsoN157-M00

Gt-500 stock will be anally destroyed by a C6 Z06 from a dig or roll


Doesn't seem exactly right for that GT500 to get pulled on by C6Z given the HP#s of the cars.  It happens.
alright please chime in and tell us why!!! Sure 640 rwhp (GT-500)sounds a lot against 501rwhp (C6 Z06) but when u take the following variables into account then u realize why the z06 still pull like a mofo on topend.





3150 Lbs
Curb Weight, Pounds, (About 100 pounds less than a regular coupe.)
.28 drag coefficient
 

GT -500:
Weights: curb weight (lbs) 3,920
38 drag coefficient

I would say that 770lbs lighter and almost a 1.0 difference in drag forces and way better suspension to put down 501rwhp for the z06 will take car of a 640rwhp Shelby GT-500. Either way that link was just to show that with a few bolt ons the C6 Z06 still held his own and stood like a champ with a heavy modified Shelby. Now a stock Shelby will be toast against a Stockish Z06.


Were the gold chains and pinky rings factored into the 3150 lbs of curb weight for the Z06?



























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RE: Guy with a stock GT500 talking smack about the Z06 - 5/8/2008 10:18:46 AM   
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I have to admit it hurts to say this being somewhat of a Shelby fanboy.. LOL..  But, Cacimar's right, the GT500 is going to get ass-raped no matter how it goes down. The best I've ever seen a stock-ish GT500 run was a 12.09 and that was with a guy that drives SVT's pro-mod car professionally behind the wheel of it. A C6 Z with a good driver in it will run mid to low 11's, maybe high 10's if the driver is good enough. Not really any contest. I'd tell the guy with the big mouth to bring plenty of K-Y Ed, sounds like he's going to need it.. lol
you are dead on man, a stock C6 Z06 has gone 10.89 at around 130mph or so. I could look it up but im too lazy right now

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RE: Guy with a stock GT500 talking smack about the Z06 - 5/8/2008 12:27:43 PM   
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I have to admit it hurts to say this being somewhat of a Shelby fanboy.. LOL..  But, Cacimar's right, the GT500 is going to get ass-raped no matter how it goes down. The best I've ever seen a stock-ish GT500 run was a 12.09 and that was with a guy that drives SVT's pro-mod car professionally behind the wheel of it. A C6 Z with a good driver in it will run mid to low 11's, maybe high 10's if the driver is good enough. Not really any contest. I'd tell the guy with the big mouth to bring plenty of K-Y Ed, sounds like he's going to need it.. lol
you are dead on man, a stock C6 Z06 has gone 10.89 at around 130mph or so. I could look it up but im too lazy right now


That wouldn't surprise me broham, though that 10.89 was likely with a professional driver behind the wheel. With the average strip-familiar driver behind the wheel, I'd guess something like 11.2 or 11.3 maybe. Either one of which would still be a bus-length or two ahead of a GT500 on a good day at sea level with a pro driver.

I don't blame you for being lazy, lol, I've been at work going on 14hrs right now, so I don't feel like doing jack-sh!t until the next shift decides they want to show up.. lol

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RE: Guy with a stock GT500 talking smack about the Z06 - 5/8/2008 12:38:43 PM   
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I think you have the win on a stock GT500.  If he spent $1100 on an evolution stage 2 and some gears I think he would have the edge. Stock for stock, Z06 wins.
i hope u are kidding right, check this out
 
http://youtube.com/watch?v=UsoN157-M00

Gt-500 stock will be anally destroyed by a C6 Z06 from a dig or roll


Doesn't seem exactly right for that GT500 to get pulled on by C6Z given the HP#s of the cars.  It happens.
alright please chime in and tell us why!!! Sure 640 rwhp (GT-500)sounds a lot against 501rwhp (C6 Z06) but when u take the following variables into account then u realize why the z06 still pull like a mofo on topend.





3150 Lbs
Curb Weight, Pounds, (About 100 pounds less than a regular coupe.)
.28 drag coefficient
 

GT -500:
Weights: curb weight (lbs) 3,920
38 drag coefficient

I would say that 770lbs lighter and almost a 1.0 difference in drag forces and way better suspension to put down 501rwhp for the z06 will take car of a 640rwhp Shelby GT-500. Either way that link was just to show that with a few bolt ons the C6 Z06 still held his own and stood like a champ with a heavy modified Shelby. Now a stock Shelby will be toast against a Stockish Z06.


Were the gold chains and pinky rings factored into the 3150 lbs of curb weight for the Z06?



























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RE: Guy with a stock GT500 talking smack about the Z06 - 5/8/2008 3:31:04 PM   
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Part of me doesn't want to race because I love the GT500 so much.  It's like beating up your little brother.  It's the owner that's running his mouth that makes me want to blow his doors off.  He's the same way with his business.  Yapping all the time about how my company should do this or that and all the while we make 10 times what his does.  He's just a blowhard.  Wanting to race a car that costs $30,000 more, has more hp and weighs 800+ pounds less is as dumb as it gets.  Plus I am not stock.  I have a good 30 rwhp over a stock Z06 - not a ton, but even more to add to the raping.

In a perfect world, I'd also own a GT500 that I've modded and I'd use that to smoke him with.


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RE: Guy with a stock GT500 talking smack about the Z06 - 5/8/2008 4:32:39 PM   
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it will not even be close IMO.... I've run a Z06 and seen that same car run a Shelby GT making 460 @ the wheels with 4.10 gears.  The Z walked me hard and walked the Shelby as well.

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RE: Guy with a stock GT500 talking smack about the Z06 - 5/8/2008 6:36:51 PM   
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Part of me doesn't want to race because I love the GT500 so much.  It's like beating up your little brother.  It's the owner that's running his mouth that makes me want to blow his doors off.  He's the same way with his business.  Yapping all the time about how my company should do this or that and all the while we make 10 times what his does.  He's just a blowhard.  Wanting to race a car that costs $30,000 more, has more hp and weighs 800+ pounds less is as dumb as it gets.  Plus I am not stock.  I have a good 30 rwhp over a stock Z06 - not a ton, but even more to add to the raping.

In a perfect world, I'd also own a GT500 that I've modded and I'd use that to smoke him with.



Exactly...we could go on and on about the different scenarios and the price differences and so on and so on.  The Z06 does cost roughly $25K more, $25K into a GT500 would smoke a stock Z06 at same price.

But the fact remains that its a stock gt500 and you will still beat a stock GT500.  I own one and I'll admit it   It's kind of like comparing apples to oranges to me though...completely different purpose from a sports car to a muscle car. 

I still think I might have a chance against a Z06 around here though because the drivers arthritis would kick in while he's trying to shift hehe.  JK, I'm sure most GT500 owners around here are pushing retirement age too. 

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RE: Guy with a stock GT500 talking smack about the Z06 - 5/8/2008 6:37:02 PM   
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Whens the raping?

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RE: Guy with a stock GT500 talking smack about the Z06 - 5/8/2008 6:37:08 PM   
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Why are people putting up videos of modified gt500 (KB) videos? This is a stock vs stock race...The truth is you need to dump another 5K into a KB to hang with a stock Zo6.


depending on the pulley it wouldnt even be a contest at that point.  im pretty sure theyve hit 899rwhp with a KB and exhaust (smallest pulley and fuel to go with it obviously)

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RE: Guy with a stock GT500 talking smack about the Z06 - 5/8/2008 6:37:50 PM   
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I think you have the win on a stock GT500.  If he spent $1100 on an evolution stage 2 and some gears I think he would have the edge. Stock for stock, Z06 wins.
i hope u are kidding right, check this out
 
http://youtube.com/watch?v=UsoN157-M00

Gt-500 stock will be anally destroyed by a C6 Z06 from a dig or roll


Doesn't seem exactly right for that GT500 to get pulled on by C6Z given the HP#s of the cars.  It happens.
alright please chime in and tell us why!!! Sure 640 rwhp (GT-500)sounds a lot against 501rwhp (C6 Z06) but when u take the following variables into account then u realize why the z06 still pull like a mofo on topend.





3150 Lbs
Curb Weight, Pounds, (About 100 pounds less than a regular coupe.)
.28 drag coefficient
 

GT -500:
Weights: curb weight (lbs) 3,920
38 drag coefficient

I would say that 770lbs lighter and almost a 1.0 difference in drag forces and way better suspension to put down 501rwhp for the z06 will take car of a 640rwhp Shelby GT-500. Either way that link was just to show that with a few bolt ons the C6 Z06 still held his own and stood like a champ with a heavy modified Shelby. Now a stock Shelby will be toast against a Stockish Z06.


Were the gold chains and pinky rings factored into the 3150 lbs of curb weight for the Z06?



























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LOL, oh cmon the gold chain thing was pretty funny

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RE: Guy with a stock GT500 talking smack about the Z06 - 5/8/2008 7:00:03 PM   
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RE: Guy with a stock GT500 talking smack about the Z06 - 5/8/2008 7:02:22 PM   
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Part of me doesn't want to race because I love the GT500 so much.  It's like beating up your little brother.
  It's the owner that's running his mouth that makes me want to blow his doors off.  He's the same way with his business.  Yapping all the time about how my company should do this or that and all the while we make 10 times what his does.  He's just a blowhard.  Wanting to race a car that costs $30,000 more, has more hp and weighs 800+ pounds less is as dumb as it gets.  Plus I am not stock.  I have a good 30 rwhp over a stock Z06 - not a ton, but even more to add to the raping.

In a perfect world, I'd also own a GT500 that I've modded and I'd use that to smoke him with.






Seriously..






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RE: Guy with a stock GT500 talking smack about the Z06 - 5/8/2008 7:26:42 PM   
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Just make sure he's not giving you a line of ****. My neighbor handed me my ass when I raced his Z06 with a tune and pulley.
I got half a car on him 3 months later with the 2.8 KB. I did lie and told him I only had the exhaust done.
He might have been feathering it thinking it would be an easy win. He's been aching for a re match. I'm stretching it a little and savoring the victory for now...

I would race him and force him to put money in his ride.


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ORIGINAL: BicketyBam

Part of me doesn't want to race because I love the GT500 so much.  It's like beating up your little brother.  It's the owner that's running his mouth that makes me want to blow his doors off.  He's the same way with his business.  Yapping all the time about how my company should do this or that and all the while we make 10 times what his does.  He's just a blowhard.  Wanting to race a car that costs $30,000 more, has more hp and weighs 800+ pounds less is as dumb as it gets.  Plus I am not stock.  I have a good 30 rwhp over a stock Z06 - not a ton, but even more to add to the raping.

In a perfect world, I'd also own a GT500 that I've modded and I'd use that to smoke him with.



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