The owner of business that competes with mine was talking all sorts of sh!t to my brother about our Z06's. He said he wants to line up with the two of us and show us what the GT500 can do. He was saying how it just blows the tires off at will. That's a good thing? Like I said - his GT500 is bone stock. Funny thing is that his last car was a C5. I don't think he understands the difference between a base C5 and a C6 Z06. I guess he will find out.

From a dig, he's history - no doubt in my mind. I am curious as to how well he would hang from a roll though. That extra weight is less of a factor.

And in case anyone forgot, I LOVE the GT500. Definitely want one.

get a video if you guys race.

i still think youll get him in the top end


do what must be done Lord Bam:(

I like the new picture bam. God that car is so sexy. Black wheels!

I think you have the win on a stock GT500. If he spent $1100 on an evolution stage 2 and some gears I think he would have the edge. Stock for stock, Z06 wins.

You're gonna rape him Ed.
a mid-low 12 second car with what 115mph traps against a low 11 high 10 second 125-130mph car? Not even a race [sm=gears.gif]

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I think you have the win on a stock GT500. If he spent $1100 on an evolution stage 2 and some gears I think he would have the edge. Stock for stock, Z06 wins.


He only talks sh!t to my brother. When he talks to me, he just listens because he knows I know more than him about cars. A month ago he was at my place and we were talking about his car. I told him the first thing he should do is get some decent tires on the car. The stock tires are way to narrow. Then I told him gears and a tune. He didn't listen. Maybe he will when he gets lit up.

I'd love to come here and tell you I lost to a modded GT500. A) because I love the car and B) it would give me a HUGE reason to get that cam package.:D

I've raced a couple already...not even close. You will have to screw up your driving big time.

from a roll it will be just as bad.

from a roll im pretty even with a gt500, and the c6z i raced from a roll made me look retarded

Keep us informed.
Please get it in vid if you do race. Do it @ Lebenon Valley next Wed so I can witness it.

Hey Bam, ur not far from me. Did you know there is a guy in Lake George that has a Vett collection that has @ least one of easch model EVER made? Our Mustang club is goin to view it in the fall.

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from a roll it will be just as bad.

from a roll im pretty even with a gt500, and the c6z i raced from a roll made me look retarded

I thought you were trapping in the mid 120's fazm?

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from a roll it will be just as bad.

from a roll im pretty even with a gt500, and the c6z i raced from a roll made me look retarded

I thought you were trapping in the mid 120's fazm?



best trap is 122 but that was on the race tune/setup
best trap on street tune with 15" rims was 118.5
best trap on street tune and 18" rims was 114 <----- how i drive everyday.

so the gt500 and the c6z ive raced were on my 110-114 trap speed setup.

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Keep us informed.
Please get it in vid if you do race. Do it @ Lebenon Valley next Wed so I can witness it.

Hey Bam, ur not far from me. Did you know there is a guy in Lake George that has a Vett collection that has @ least one of easch model EVER made? Our Mustang club is goin to view it in the fall.


We would most likely do it on the main road to the airport. I know a Lieutenant in the Westchester County Police that could make it happen. I will try to get it on video.

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from a roll it will be just as bad.

from a roll im pretty even with a gt500, and the c6z i raced from a roll made me look retarded

I thought you were trapping in the mid 120's fazm?



best trap is 122 but that was on the race tune/setup
best trap on street tune with 15" rims was 118.5
best trap on street tune and 18" rims was 114 <----- how i drive everyday.

so the gt500 and the c6z ive raced were on my 110-114 trap speed setup.

Ah..did you ever get all your **** fixed? Run the race tune and setup again and knock down another mph or two ;)

after putting in a new diff, and upper control arm, i blew another transmission.

so now im actually swapping a tr6060 (gt500 trans) into the v6. a lot of custom work, but itll be worth it to be able to shift.

when all said and done, once i go 14psi, and the race tune setup i should be able to get into the 125mph range, which should net me at least a low 11.

I see you taking it both ways, by a pretty decent margin. The GT500 is deffinatly sweet, but I think we can all agree that it's a pig.

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after putting in a new diff, and upper control arm, i blew another transmission.

so now im actually swapping a tr6060 (gt500 trans) into the v6. a lot of custom work, but itll be worth it to be able to shift.

when all said and done, once i go 14psi, and the race tune setup i should be able to get into the 125mph range, which should net me at least a low 11.

Isn't the tr6060 what they use in the '07-'08 ZO6's? I know the T56 was in the '06 Z

lol

yeah but dude they both have the same horsepower. :eek:

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after putting in a new diff, and upper control arm, i blew another transmission.

so now im actually swapping a tr6060 (gt500 trans) into the v6. a lot of custom work, but itll be worth it to be able to shift.

when all said and done, once i go 14psi, and the race tune setup i should be able to get into the 125mph range, which should net me at least a low 11.

Isn't the tr6060 what they use in the '07-'08 ZO6's? I know the T56 was in the '06 Z




not sure what the new z06's use, but i know the gt500 uses it. i know corvettes were going to use it, just not sure if they implemented it yet. also i think the new viper is getting it

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lol

yeah but dude they both have the same horsepower. :eek:


Not. 505bhp (ZO6) vs 500bhp (GT500).
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I'd love to line up with a Z06 around my neck of the woods. It would be entertaining watching the 80 year old driver (always are) try to work his way through the gears. I just seriously can't find a vette on the roads in MN being driven by a guy under the age of 55. Needless to say, they are more into the show than the go.

omg You are gonna ass rape him Ed, and for god's sake take a video of it.

that vettes going up somebodys hershey highway!

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I think you have the win on a stock GT500. If he spent $1100 on an evolution stage 2 and some gears I think he would have the edge. Stock for stock, Z06 wins.
i hope u are kidding right, check this out

http://youtube.com/watch?v=UsoN157-M00

Gt-500 stock will be anally destroyed by a C6 Z06 from a dig or roll

:( sad i hate to see a mustang lose specially such a beautiful one but i hate it even more when people talk **** when they know nothing, cant believe i would ever root for a chevy win over a ford but for the sake of reality please rape him[sm=boohoo.gif]

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I think you have the win on a stock GT500. If he spent $1100 on an evolution stage 2 and some gears I think he would have the edge. Stock for stock, Z06 wins.
i hope u are kidding right, check this out

http://youtube.com/watch?v=UsoN157-M00

Gt-500 stock will be anally destroyed by a C6 Z06 from a dig or roll


Doesn't seem exactly right for that GT500 to get pulled on by C6Z given the HP#s of the cars. It happens.

He stands NO chance from a roll or dig. Put him in his place while you can... A couple mods and the thing will be a monster

Rape..

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I think you have the win on a stock GT500. If he spent $1100 on an evolution stage 2 and some gears I think he would have the edge. Stock for stock, Z06 wins.
i hope u are kidding right, check this out

http://youtube.com/watch?v=UsoN157-M00

Gt-500 stock will be anally destroyed by a C6 Z06 from a dig or roll


Doesn't seem exactly right for that GT500 to get pulled on by C6Z given the HP#s of the cars. It happens.
alright please chime in and tell us why!!! Sure 640 rwhp (GT-500)sounds a lot against 501rwhp (C6 Z06) but when u take the following variables into account then u realize why the z06 still pull like a mofo on topend.





3150 Lbs
Curb Weight, Pounds, (About 100 pounds less than a regular coupe.)
.28 drag coefficient


GT -500:
Weights: curb weight (lbs) 3,920
38 drag coefficient

I would say that 770lbs lighter and almost a 1.0 difference in drag forces and way better suspension to put down 501rwhp for the z06 will take car of a 640rwhp Shelby GT-500. Either way that link was just to show that with a few bolt ons the C6 Z06 still held his own and stood like a champ with a heavy modified Shelby. Now a stock Shelby will be toast against a Stockish Z06.

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The owner of business that competes with mine was talking all sorts of sh!t to my brother about our Z06's. He said he wants to line up with the two of us and show us what the GT500 can do. He was saying how it just blows the tires off at will. That's a good thing? Like I said - his GT500 is bone stock. Funny thing is that his last car was a C5. I don't think he understands the difference between a base C5 and a C6 Z06. I guess he will find out.

From a dig, he's history - no doubt in my mind. I am curious as to how well he would hang from a roll though. That extra weight is less of a factor.

And in case anyone forgot, I LOVE the GT500. Definitely want one.

I might get flamed for this, but the new z06 could spot a gt500 6 cars to a 1/4 and still walk it down and beat it. The previous z06 (pre 06') is a better run for a stock gt500, sorry. Blame ford for making them 3900lb pigs when they know darn well they should be 3200-3300lbs tops.

The GT500 is a nice car, but will get killed. Stock for stock, they may be in the same price class, but performance puts the C6Z in a whole other league. The Z is a world beater, the GT500 is not.

This some kind of joke? Those tanks only run 12.5 to 12.9. They wont even hang with a regular C6. They would need to slap on a KB to even compete....

No contest here. I pulled two cars on a GT500 from a roll and I only trap 120. Honestly his only chance is a short race like the 1/8 mile where maybe if he's an amazing driver he could outlaunch you, hope you spinand make you play catch-up.

Of course the Z will win with its weight advantage. It's not all about power to weight when buying a vehicle, there are other factors or else everyone would go buy a crotch rocket for 12 grand brand new and blow the doors off Z06's. They are both awesome cars but I personally would rather have the GT500 since it has a back seat and is quite a bit safer than the vettewhichhasa "composite" body.

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The owner of business that competes with mine was talking all sorts of sh!t to my brother about our Z06's. He said he wants to line up with the two of us and show us what the GT500 can do. He was saying how it just blows the tires off at will. That's a good thing? Like I said - his GT500 is bone stock. Funny thing is that his last car was a C5. I don't think he understands the difference between a base C5 and a C6 Z06. I guess he will find out.

From a dig, he's history - no doubt in my mind. I am curious as to how well he would hang from a roll though. That extra weight is less of a factor.

And in case anyone forgot, I LOVE the GT500. Definitely want one.

I might get flamed for this, but the new z06 could spot a gt500 6 cars to a 1/4 and still walk it down and beat it. The previous z06 (pre 06') is a better run for a stock gt500, sorry. Blame ford for making them 3900lb pigs when they know darn well they should be 3200-3300lbs tops.

I have to admit it hurts to say this being somewhat of a Shelby fanboy.. LOL.. [:@]But, Cacimar's right, the GT500 is going to get ass-raped no matter how it goes down. The best I've ever seen a stock-ish GT500 run was a 12.09 and that was with a guy that drives SVT's pro-mod car professionally behind the wheel of it. A C6 Z with a good driver in it will run mid to low 11's, maybe high 10's if the driver is good enough. Not really any contest. I'd tell the guy with the big mouth to bring plenty of K-Y Ed, sounds like he's going to need it.. lol :D

http://youtube.com/watch?v=_0mjWY9l0n0&feature=related

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I think you have the win on a stock GT500. If he spent $1100 on an evolution stage 2 and some gears I think he would have the edge. Stock for stock, Z06 wins.
i hope u are kidding right, check this out

http://youtube.com/watch?v=UsoN157-M00

Gt-500 stock will be anally destroyed by a C6 Z06 from a dig or roll


That surprised me. I thought weight becomes less of an issue from a roll.

Should be a great Ford vs Chevy race

I haven't even read the posts, but im thinking it's going to go something like this...

From a dig you win
From a roll you win
You in reverse then pulling a 180 and going.. you still win.

Any questions?

The Shelby owwners gets a [>:]

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I think you have the win on a stock GT500. If he spent $1100 on an evolution stage 2 and some gears I think he would have the edge. Stock for stock, Z06 wins.
i hope u are kidding right, check this out

http://youtube.com/watch?v=UsoN157-M00

Gt-500 stock will be anally destroyed by a C6 Z06 from a dig or roll


That surprised me. I thought weight becomes less of an issue from a roll.



it does, it doesn't go away as a factor completely but gearing, aeros, etc take over as more 'primary factors'. Along with gearing you have to consider torque curve, peak power vs power under the curve,etc... Anyone know what GT500s actually put down? We all know the C6Z is pushing a bit more than the claimed 505hp rating (something I haven't seen taken into account yet)

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I think you have the win on a stock GT500. If he spent $1100 on an evolution stage 2 and some gears I think he would have the edge. Stock for stock, Z06 wins.
i hope u are kidding right, check this out

http://youtube.com/watch?v=UsoN157-M00

Gt-500 stock will be anally destroyed by a C6 Z06 from a dig or roll


Doesn't seem exactly right for that GT500 to get pulled on by C6Z given the HP#s of the cars. It happens.
alright please chime in and tell us why!!! Sure 640 rwhp (GT-500)sounds a lot against 501rwhp (C6 Z06) but when u take the following variables into account then u realize why the z06 still pull like a mofo on topend.





3150 Lbs
Curb Weight, Pounds, (About 100 pounds less than a regular coupe.)
.28 drag coefficient


GT -500:
Weights: curb weight (lbs) 3,920
38 drag coefficient

I would say that 770lbs lighter and almost a 1.0 difference in drag forces and way better suspension to put down 501rwhp for the z06 will take car of a 640rwhp Shelby GT-500. Either way that link was just to show that with a few bolt ons the C6 Z06 still held his own and stood like a champ with a heavy modified Shelby. Now a stock Shelby will be toast against a Stockish Z06.


Were the gold chains and pinky rings factored into the 3150 lbs of curb weight for the Z06?

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I'd love to line up with a Z06 around my neck of the woods. It would be entertaining watching the 80 year old driver (always are) try to work his way through the gears. I just seriously can't find a vette on the roads in MN being driven by a guy under the age of 55. Needless to say, they are more into the show than the go.


All the people I know who own GT500s are well into their 60s around here. Same with the Vette's though. :D

As for racing a stock GT500, a guy at work has an 07 vert (just a Ford racing CAI and the tune that comes with it) and raced another coworker in an 07 Z06 and was raped very very badly, both are so-so drivers.

My dad has an 03 zo6 millenium yellow, it has a blakwing intake and kooks longtubes and catted X. Two days after the header install on my way to prom,(daddy let me take his car) i ran into a red gt500 and he was talking smak at a light, there were some people infront of me we were like third in line and i said well you wanna run that thing, he goes "this thing has 500 horsepower" i said i dont care how uch it has cause it aint enough. He says " fine you will find out the hard way so we cruise to the next light and it turns yellow as we approach so we stop and are first at line at the light. the light turns green and we both floor it, each hitting the rev limiter in first, when i grab second im a fender in front, by the time i hit third im 3/4 infront, when i shut it off in 4th @ 110 im a car and a half. enough said.

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My dad has an 03 zo6 millenium yellow, it has a blakwing intake and kooks longtubes and catted X. Two days after the header install on my way to prom,(daddy let me take his car) i ran into a red gt500 and he was talking smak at a light, there were some people infront of me we were like third in line and i said well you wanna run that thing, he goes "this thing has 500 horsepower" i said i dont care how uch it has cause it aint enough. He says " fine you will find out the hard way so we cruise to the next light and it turns yellow as we approach so we stop and are first at line at the light. the light turns green and we both floor it, each hitting the rev limiter in first, when i grab second im a fender in front, by the time i hit third im 3/4 infront, when i shut it off in 4th @ 110 im a car and a half. enough said.


Hmmm.. Im not one to preach but daddy needs to hide his keys from you.

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I think you have the win on a stock GT500. If he spent $1100 on an evolution stage 2 and some gears I think he would have the edge. Stock for stock, Z06 wins.
i hope u are kidding right, check this out

http://youtube.com/watch?v=UsoN157-M00

Gt-500 stock will be anally destroyed by a C6 Z06 from a dig or roll


+1

I can pull on a GT500 and the C6Z makes me look retarded. This is not even going to be a race. The cobra owner is going to look like a fool.

Why are people putting up videos of modified gt500 (KB)videos? This is a stock vs stock race...The truth is you need to dump another 5K into a KB to hang with a stock Zo6.

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Why are people putting up videos of modified gt500 (KB)videos? This is a stock vs stock race...The truth is you need to dump another 5K into a KB to hang with a stock Zo6.

I think they are probably implying that it takes money for gt500 to beat one.... I think if u READ u will actully see we are agreeing that the GT500 guy is a DOuche.

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I think you have the win on a stock GT500.Â* If he spent $1100 on an evolution stage 2 and some gears I think he would have the edge. Stock for stock, Z06 wins.
i hope u are kidding right, check this out
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http://youtube.com/watch?v=UsoN157-M00

Gt-500 stock will be anally destroyed by a C6 Z06 from a dig or roll


Doesn't seem exactly right for that GT500 to get pulled on by C6Z given the HP#s of the cars.Â* It happens.
alright please chime in and tell us why!!! Sure 640 rwhp (GT-500)sounds a lot against 501rwhp (C6 Z06) but when u take the following variables into account then u realize why the z06 still pull like a mofo on topend.





3150 Lbs
Curb Weight, Pounds, (About 100 pounds less than a regular coupe.)
.28 drag coefficient
Â*

GT -500:
Weights: curb weight (lbs) 3,920
38 drag coefficient

I would say that 770lbs lighter and almost a 1.0 difference in drag forces and way better suspension to put down 501rwhp for the z06 will take car of a 640rwhp Shelby GT-500. Either way that link was just to show that with a few bolt ons the C6 Z06 still held his own and stood like a champ with a heavy modified Shelby. Now a stock Shelby will be toast against a Stockish Z06.


Were the gold chains and pinky rings factored into the 3150 lbs of curb weight for the Z06?

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Moron

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I have to admit it hurts to say this being somewhat of a Shelby fanboy.. LOL.. [:@]But, Cacimar's right, the GT500 is going to get ass-raped no matter how it goes down. The best I've ever seen a stock-ish GT500 run was a 12.09 and that was with a guy that drives SVT's pro-mod car professionally behind the wheel of it. A C6 Z with a good driver in it will run mid to low 11's, maybe high 10's if the driver is good enough. Not really any contest. I'd tell the guy with the big mouth to bring plenty of K-Y Ed, sounds like he's going to need it.. lol :D
you are dead on man, a stock C6 Z06 has gone 10.89 at around 130mph or so. I could look it up but im too lazy right now

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I have to admit it hurts to say this being somewhat of a Shelby fanboy.. LOL.. [:@]But, Cacimar's right, the GT500 is going to get ass-raped no matter how it goes down. The best I've ever seen a stock-ish GT500 run was a 12.09 and that was with a guy that drives SVT's pro-mod car professionally behind the wheel of it. A C6 Z with a good driver in it will run mid to low 11's, maybe high 10's if the driver is good enough. Not really any contest. I'd tell the guy with the big mouth to bring plenty of K-Y Ed, sounds like he's going to need it.. lol :D
you are dead on man, a stock C6 Z06 has gone 10.89 at around 130mph or so. I could look it up but im too lazy right now


That wouldn't surprise me broham, though that 10.89 was likely with a professional driver behind the wheel. With the average strip-familiar driver behind the wheel, I'd guess something like 11.2 or 11.3 maybe. Either one of which would still be a bus-length or two ahead of a GT500 on a good day at sea level with a pro driver.

I don't blame you for being lazy, lol, I've been at work going on 14hrs right now, so I don't feel like doing jack-sh!t until the next shift decides they want to show up.. lol

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[quote]ORIGINAL: airforceus

I think you have the win on a stock GT500. If he spent $1100 on an evolution stage 2 and some gears I think he would have the edge. Stock for stock, Z06 wins.
i hope u are kidding right, check this out

http://youtube.com/watch?v=UsoN157-M00

Gt-500 stock will be anally destroyed by a C6 Z06 from a dig or roll


Doesn't seem exactly right for that GT500 to get pulled on by C6Z given the HP#s of the cars. It happens.
alright please chime in and tell us why!!! Sure 640 rwhp (GT-500)sounds a lot against 501rwhp (C6 Z06) but when u take the following variables into account then u realize why the z06 still pull like a mofo on topend.





3150 Lbs
Curb Weight, Pounds, (About 100 pounds less than a regular coupe.)
.28 drag coefficient


GT -500:
Weights: curb weight (lbs) 3,920
38 drag coefficient

I would say that 770lbs lighter and almost a 1.0 difference in drag forces and way better suspension to put down 501rwhp for the z06 will take car of a 640rwhp Shelby GT-500. Either way that link was just to show that with a few bolt ons the C6 Z06 still held his own and stood like a champ with a heavy modified Shelby. Now a stock Shelby will be toast against a Stockish Z06.


Were the gold chains and pinky rings factored into the 3150 lbs of curb weight for the Z06?

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Moron





That time of the month Mrs. Rogers?;)

Part of me doesn't want to race because I love the GT500 so much. It's like beating up your little brother. It's the owner that's running his mouth that makes me want to blow his doors off. He's the same way with his business. Yapping all the time about how my company should do this or that and all the while we make 10 times what his does. He's just a blowhard. Wanting to race a car that costs $30,000 more, has more hp and weighs 800+ pounds less is as dumb as it gets. Plus I am not stock. I have a good 30 rwhp over a stock Z06 - not a ton, but even more to add to the raping.

In a perfect world, I'd also own a GT500 that I've modded and I'd use that to smoke him with. :D

Ed - you'll own him like pimp own's his ho's on a Sat night!!!!


it will not even be close IMO.... I've run a Z06 and seen that same car run a Shelby GT making 460 @ the wheels with 4.10 gears. The Z walked me hard and walked the Shelby as well.

Z06>GT500 /

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Part of me doesn't want to race because I love the GT500 so much. It's like beating up your little brother. It's the owner that's running his mouth that makes me want to blow his doors off. He's the same way with his business. Yapping all the time about how my company should do this or that and all the while we make 10 times what his does. He's just a blowhard. Wanting to race a car that costs $30,000 more, has more hp and weighs 800+ pounds less is as dumb as it gets. Plus I am not stock. I have a good 30 rwhp over a stock Z06 - not a ton, but even more to add to the raping.

In a perfect world, I'd also own a GT500 that I've modded and I'd use that to smoke him with. :D



Exactly...we could go on and on about the different scenarios and the price differences and so on and so on. The Z06 does cost roughly $25K more, $25K into a GT500 would smoke a stock Z06 at same price.

But the fact remains thatits a stock gt500 andyou will still beat a stock GT500. I own one and I'll admit it ;) It's kind of like comparing apples to oranges to me though...completely different purpose from a sports car to a muscle car.

I still think I might have a chance against a Z06 around here though because the drivers arthritis would kick in while he's trying to shift hehe. JK, I'm sure most GT500 owners around here are pushing retirement age too.

Whens the raping?

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Why are people putting up videos of modified gt500 (KB)videos? This is a stock vs stock race...The truth is you need to dump another 5K into a KB to hang with a stock Zo6.


depending on the pulley it wouldnt even be a contest at that point. im pretty sure theyve hit 899rwhp with a KB and exhaust (smallest pulley and fuel to go with it obviously)

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[quote]ORIGINAL: airforceus

I think you have the win on a stock GT500. If he spent $1100 on an evolution stage 2 and some gears I think he would have the edge. Stock for stock, Z06 wins.
i hope u are kidding right, check this out

http://youtube.com/watch?v=UsoN157-M00

Gt-500 stock will be anally destroyed by a C6 Z06 from a dig or roll


Doesn't seem exactly right for that GT500 to get pulled on by C6Z given the HP#s of the cars. It happens.
alright please chime in and tell us why!!! Sure 640 rwhp (GT-500)sounds a lot against 501rwhp (C6 Z06) but when u take the following variables into account then u realize why the z06 still pull like a mofo on topend.





3150 Lbs
Curb Weight, Pounds, (About 100 pounds less than a regular coupe.)
.28 drag coefficient


GT -500:
Weights: curb weight (lbs) 3,920
38 drag coefficient

I would say that 770lbs lighter and almost a 1.0 difference in drag forces and way better suspension to put down 501rwhp for the z06 will take car of a 640rwhp Shelby GT-500. Either way that link was just to show that with a few bolt ons the C6 Z06 still held his own and stood like a champ with a heavy modified Shelby. Now a stock Shelby will be toast against a Stockish Z06.


Were the gold chains and pinky rings factored into the 3150 lbs of curb weight for the Z06?

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Moron





That time of the month Mrs. Rogers?;)




LOL, oh cmon the gold chain thing was pretty funny

^^^Old joke..not even original..I guess it's new to you..
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ORIGINAL: BicketyBam

Part of me doesn't want to race because I love the GT500 so much.Â* It's like beating up your little brother.Â* It's the owner that's running his mouth that makes me want to blow his doors off.Â* He's the same way with his business.Â* Yapping all the time about how my company should do this or that and all the while we make 10 times what his does.Â* He's just a blowhard.Â* Wanting to race a car that costs $30,000 more, has more hp and weighs 800+ pounds less is as dumb as it gets.Â* Plus I am not stock.Â* I have a good 30 rwhp over a stock Z06 - not a ton, but even more to add to the raping.

In a perfect world, I'd also own a GT500 that I've modded and I'd use that to smoke him with. :D



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Seriously..

Just make sure he's not giving you a line of ****. My neighbor handed me my ass when I raced his Z06 with a tune and pulley.
I got half a car on him 3 months later with the 2.8 KB. I did lie and told him I only had the exhaust done.:eek:
He might have been feathering it thinking it would be an easy win. He's been aching for a re match. I'm stretching it a little and savoring the victory for now...:D

I would race him and force him to put money in his ride.


ORIGINAL: BicketyBam

Part of me doesn't want to race because I love the GT500 so much. It's like beating up your little brother. It's the owner that's running his mouth that makes me want to blow his doors off. He's the same way with his business. Yapping all the time about how my company should do this or that and all the while we make 10 times what his does. He's just a blowhard. Wanting to race a car that costs $30,000 more, has more hp and weighs 800+ pounds less is as dumb as it gets. Plus I am not stock. I have a good 30 rwhp over a stock Z06 - not a ton, but even more to add to the raping.

In a perfect world, I'd also own a GT500 that I've modded and I'd use that to smoke him with. :D

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ORIGINAL: BicketyBam

Part of me doesn't want to race because I love the GT500 so much. It's like beating up your little brother. It's the owner that's running his mouth that makes me want to blow his doors off. He's the same way with his business. Yapping all the time about how my company should do this or that and all the while we make 10 times what his does. He's just a blowhard. Wanting to race a car that costs $30,000 more, has more hp and weighs 800+ pounds less is as dumb as it gets. Plus I am not stock. I have a good 30 rwhp over a stock Z06 - not a ton, but even more to add to the raping.

In a perfect world, I'd also own a GT500 that I've modded and I'd use that to smoke him with. :D



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Seriously..







I am still a Ford fanboi at heart - what can I say? :D

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ORIGINAL: BicketyBam

Part of me doesn't want to race because I love the GT500 so much. It's like beating up your little brother. It's the owner that's running his mouth that makes me want to blow his doors off. He's the same way with his business. Yapping all the time about how my company should do this or that and all the while we make 10 times what his does. He's just a blowhard. Wanting to race a car that costs $30,000 more, has more hp and weighs 800+ pounds less is as dumb as it gets. Plus I am not stock. I have a good 30 rwhp over a stock Z06 - not a ton, but even more to add to the raping.

In a perfect world, I'd also own a GT500 that I've modded and I'd use that to smoke him with. :D



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Seriously..







I am still a Ford fanboi at heart - what can I say? :D



Ed, where'd that avatar of the booty go? ;)

My stock GT500 feels almost as fast as my 07 6 Speed manual Vette.They are in two completely different classes.Both sweet rides with no real similarities.I would have a ZO6 also but the bankroll is only so big.Check out what you can do to a GT500 on Evolution's website for little money.Stock,ZO6 first,C6 LS3 second and last but not least,GT 500 with some easy potential.Don't hurt his feelings too bad unless he talks way too much ****,Then give it to him hard!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D8ari3hZJXs
You never know when something like this will show up.These mods are cheap.

^^^^^ dude thats a heavy modified GT-500 what else do u expect ? cheap mods? they did not disclose them but i guaranteed u they arent, that cars must be gutted and it must have all the safety requierements to be able to run at the track at 140+ mph

ORIGINAL: cacimar

^^^^^ dude thats a heavy modified GT-500 what else do u expect ? cheap mods? they did not disclose them but i guaranteed u they arent, that cars must be gutted and it must have all the safety requierements to be able to run at the track at 140+ mph

When Evo Performance did that, their GT500 was essentially a full bolt-on car. It had a drag suspension, good tires, some moderate weight reduction, exhaust, and a really small pulley with matching dyno tuning.

They were still on the stock motor, but I can't remember if they had switched out the blower yet at that point.

It was fairly impressive for what was done, and would have cost a consumer ~10k-15k in modification IIRC, which isn't really all that bad for a 9-second, 800rwhp car.

ORIGINAL: cacimar

^^^^^ dude thats a heavy modified GT-500 what else do u expect ? cheap mods? they did not disclose them but i guaranteed u they arent, that cars must be gutted and it must have all the safety requierements to be able to run at the track at 140+ mph


Looks like it had full exhaust, tune,pulley and a 75 shot. I would think it has some suspension modstogo with those slicks.

On a side note will theGT500's 5.4L internals generally hold more power than theZ06?

The internals and Trans are good for at least 1K HP, if not more...

I think if a car that weighs 600+ lbs, costs about 10-15K less, and can run 2 seconds faster with mods equal to the cost of the Z06 is awesome.

Just a pulley swap, tune, intake and tires, low 11's trapping 124+. With full weight I might add.

Now, about 1K in suspension mods, 10's, here we come....

Love the GT500 and I'd love to own and mod one. But this guy's is bone stock right down to the tires. I am not debating what can be done to the car. I could put a turbo set up on my Z06 and put 1000 hp to the wheels. That's not the point. In stock form, the GT500 is no competition for a stock C6 Z06, nor was it ever intended to be.

Obviously. Then again, the car would technically still be stock, if he shaved off 400-500 lbs. That would make things a bit more interesting. Seeing as the fastest ran a 12.2 @ 118 bone stock, full weight.

Now each of those 100 lbs, is about a tenth, so much 11's bone stock, would be good. Then he should trap at least 120, if he can drive.

I am actually thinking about buying one, if I can sell mine. Otherwise, I'm building the engine, and going turbo.

Have fun Ed!

ORIGINAL: BicketyBam

Love the GT500 and I'd love to own and mod one. But this guy's is bone stock right down to the tires. I am not debating what can be done to the car. I could put a turbo set up on my Z06 and put 1000 hp to the wheels. That's not the point. In stock form, the GT500 is no competition for a stock C6 Z06, nor was it ever intended to be.


Your car does not have forged internals like the GT500. I'm not sure if it can handlethat much power.

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ORIGINAL: BicketyBam

Love the GT500 and I'd love to own and mod one. But this guy's is bone stock right down to the tires. I am not debating what can be done to the car. I could put a turbo set up on my Z06 and put 1000 hp to the wheels. That's not the point. In stock form, the GT500 is no competition for a stock C6 Z06, nor was it ever intended to be.


Your car does not have forged internals like the GT500. I'm not sure if it can handlethat much power.


So you throw in forged pistons - that's not the point! If an S197 Mustang owner posted a thread that a guy in new stock Civic Si was talking crap how he would beat him and then there were a bunch of replies with people talking about what a turbo'd Civic will run, blah, blah, blah, how do yo think that would go over? Thank you.

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ORIGINAL: BicketyBam

Love the GT500 and I'd love to own and mod one. But this guy's is bone stock right down to the tires. I am not debating what can be done to the car. I could put a turbo set up on my Z06 and put 1000 hp to the wheels. That's not the point. In stock form, the GT500 is no competition for a stock C6 Z06, nor was it ever intended to be.


Your car does not have forged internals like the GT500. I'm not sure if it can handlethat much power.


So you throw in forged pistons - that's not the point! If an S197 Mustang owner posted a thread that a guy in new stock Civic Si was talking crap how he would beat him and then there were a bunch of replies with people talking about what a turbo'd Civic will run, blah, blah, blah, how do yo think that would go over? Thank you.



Calm down I think that we already established 2482384 times that a stock Z06 will walk all over a stock GT500. This guy either
A) Doesn't know crap about his car vs a corvette and is a tool

B)Knows you will wipe the floor with him but wants to talk crap to get you stirred up anyway.

C) (least likely) Hassome mods up his sleeve he isn't mentioning. Keep in mind the GT500 that ran 9's with slicks, tune, pulley, full exhaust, and 75 shot.(so they claim)

Maybe he just wants to see you romp on your Z?

The guy is just a tool - and he talked the crap to my brother. He knew better than to start with me.

I know for a fact that the car is bone stock. Plus he's the kind of guy that would put an air filter in and brag about how his car now has 100 extra horsepower. Like I said before, his last car was a C5. I just don't think he has a clue about the new Z06.

Then he doesn't deserve the gt500 and should give it to me

I just sent him this email. If this don't get him to put up or shut up, I don't know what will:D



Hey Mike,

[/align] [/align] Why did you have to getGene all worked up about your GT500 vs. his Z06? :) I'm the guy to talk to!Let me give you some insight. You used to own a C5. You know the new base C6 is now 430 bhp, right? This isn't your old Corvette. Plus with the C6Z06 you get:

All aluminum frame (weight savings)
Carbon fiber front fenders (weight savings)
Magnesium engine cradle (weight savings)
Magnesium roof (weight savings)
Carbon fiber wrapped Balsa wood floorboard (weight savings)
505 HP 427 Cubic Inch Motor
3" Exhaust with 4" tips and dual mode mufflers activated by RPM.
Wider front and rear fenders
Wider opening front fascia
14" 6 piston front and 13" 4 piston rear brakes. Cross drilled.
Front and rear brakes air cooled. Rear fender has integrated air scoops.
Front air splitter
Front fender air diffusers
Rear air diffuser
Front cold air scoop
18x9.5 front wheels
19x12 rear wheels
Engine moved back further to help achieve 50/50 balance.
Battery mounted in hatch
8qt dry sump oil system
Oil, transmission, differential, and power steering coolers
Taller rear spoiler


[/align] Now throw in the fact that our Z's have a tune and an intake, which add ~30 rwhp. The car is 3,150 pounds. Do the math. The showroom stock record in the quarter is 10.981 seconds at 128.9 mph. A cripple could run a high 11 in this car.

[/align] I love your Ford GT500. In fact, I almost bought one. But it's not going to hang with a Z06. Your car weighs 4,000 pounds. It's shaped like a brick compared to the Z06. The Z is going to leave you like you were tied to a stump. Those are the facts. The best time I could find for a stock GT500 is 12.257 at 117 mph.

[/align] But forget about paper racing. I will be more than happy to line them up out on Route 120. My county cop buddy, Lieutenant Dave will make sure it's cool. We can go from a full stop or a roll - makes no difference to me. I'll tell you right now that you are going to be staring at the ass end of my yellow Z06 while I put a bus length on you. It'll be fun. Just let me know when. I am also up for a trip to Englishtown where we can run "legally". Just throwing it out there. Take care - come by with the car someday. You said I could drive it, remember?


[/align] Ed Condreras

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go Ed!

lol.... that's a great e-mail Ed!!

GT500 that ran 9's with slicks, tune, pulley, full exhaust, and 75 shot.(so they claim)

Can someone please send me a link where evolution inc. made a 660+ rwhp on a gt-500 witha pulley, tune, and 75 shot that ran 9. Im just not buying that!!!! Again not the video where it runs 9 but rather the mods done to it.

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ORIGINAL: cacimar

ORIGINAL: airforceus

I think you have the win on a stock GT500. If he spent $1100 on an evolution stage 2 and some gears I think he would have the edge. Stock for stock, Z06 wins.
i hope u are kidding right, check this out

http://youtube.com/watch?v=UsoN157-M00

Gt-500 stock will be anally destroyed by a C6 Z06 from a dig or roll


That surprised me. I thought weight becomes less of an issue from a roll.



That's what I was thinking when I watched it. Someone mentioned the drag coefficent, weight, suspensionand power numbers, comparing them to make the outcome make sense, but it still doesn't make sense to me. 140 HP is a huge difference. A friend of mine has GT500 with 610 rwhp who runs in the high 120's @11.1, which should easily take most of the street driven C6Z's. We all knoe there has been a select few C6Zs in the high 10's but it's the exception. If I was going to guess the problem, it would be a sandbagged HP number from the C6Z or an inflated number from the GT500, or alittle of both. Again we are dealing with dyno numbers. Dyno numbers can be created/inflated so race outcomes and trap numbers seem to be more representative of power numbers.

I remember a thread comparing the C6 stock suspension and HP numbers to the C6Z. A 70-80 rwhp difference and a few hundred pounds equal almost a full second or more in 1/4 mile ETs and times. I don't see the suspension, on either car,playinga largepartin the outcome of this race.

610hp andgoing 11.10's andtrapping 120's, that about 150-200 more than a vette would need to run that number. I would say it should only need 500-530 for itto go those numbers. But you are right about a select few going good numbers.

ORIGINAL: BicketyBam

I just sent him this email. If this don't get him to put up or shut up, I don't know what will:D



Hey Mike,

[/align] [/align] Why did you have to getGene all worked up about your GT500 vs. his Z06? :) I'm the guy to talk to!Let me give you some insight. You used to own a C5. You know the new base C6 is now 430 bhp, right? This isn't your old Corvette. Plus with the C6Z06 you get:

All aluminum frame (weight savings)
Carbon fiber front fenders (weight savings)
Magnesium engine cradle (weight savings)
Magnesium roof (weight savings)
Carbon fiber wrapped Balsa wood floorboard (weight savings)
505 HP 427 Cubic Inch Motor
3" Exhaust with 4" tips and dual mode mufflers activated by RPM.
Wider front and rear fenders
Wider opening front fascia
14" 6 piston front and 13" 4 piston rear brakes. Cross drilled.
Front and rear brakes air cooled. Rear fender has integrated air scoops.
Front air splitter
Front fender air diffusers
Rear air diffuser
Front cold air scoop
18x9.5 front wheels
19x12 rear wheels
Engine moved back further to help achieve 50/50 balance.
Battery mounted in hatch
8qt dry sump oil system
Oil, transmission, differential, and power steering coolers
Taller rear spoiler


[/align] Now throw in the fact that our Z's have a tune and an intake, which add ~30 rwhp. The car is 3,150 pounds. Do the math. The showroom stock record in the quarter is 10.981 seconds at 128.9 mph. A cripple could run a high 11 in this car.

[/align] I love your Ford GT500. In fact, I almost bought one. But it's not going to hang with a Z06. Your car weighs 4,000 pounds. It's shaped like a brick compared to the Z06. The Z is going to leave you like you were tied to a stump. Those are the facts. The best time I could find for a stock GT500 is 12.257 at 117 mph.

[/align] But forget about paper racing. I will be more than happy to line them up out on Route 120. My county cop buddy, Lieutenant Dave will make sure it's cool. We can go from a full stop or a roll - makes no difference to me. I'll tell you right now that you are going to be staring at the ass end of my yellow Z06 while I put a bus length on you. It'll be fun. Just let me know when. I am also up for a trip to Englishtown where we can run "legally". Just throwing it out there. Take care - come by with the car someday. You said I could drive it, remember?


[/align] Ed Condreras

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Dang I didn't realize the Z06 had all those wieght saving mods. 3200 actually seems kind of heavy for having all that.A fox body mustang is all steel body, frame etc as far as I know and it is lighter than the z06

fox body has much less accessories and saftey equipment as well.

are we serioouly going to argue this!!!! Who in the world would compare a fox body against a C6 Z06 weight wise ? With today safty standards seeing a car with 505 bhp weighing only 3150lbs is a very tought task to achieved fella.

ORIGINAL: BrazoriaStang



Dang I didn't realize the Z06 had all those wieght saving mods. 3200 actually seems kind of heavy for having all that.A fox body mustang is all steel body, frame etc as far as I know and it is lighter than the z06

You've never been inside a Z06 have you?

I don't know why they didn't just give the Gt500 a blown 3v 4.6. I bet it would have been faster with all the weight savings from the aluminum block versus the iron fat-as in the 5.4.

You only save about 75-80lbs with a aluminium block, that's hardly a drop in the bucket plus you lose the advantage of actually having some cubic inches.

I have no problem with the GT500. Cars are just much heavier these days, as already mentioned. People get hung up on the 500 bhp and start comparing it to other 500 hp cars, namely the Z06. Apples and oranges. The Z06 is a track bred sports car that costs $70k. The GT500 is a muscle/boulevard car that costs $42k (in a perfect world). You need more hp these days to push these heavy cars. The bottom line is hp/wt ratio. Ford wanted a mid 12 second performance out of the car,and 500 hp did the job. For 4 seat muscle cars, that is the new trend. Challenger, Camaro, GT500.....all heavy and all will need more hp then the muscle cars of the past. We better get used to it.

It's funny you mention the old muscle cars Ed, I have meet many people who think those old cars were super heavy. My 69 Super Bee was only about 3400 lbs the only light weight stuff was the hood and wheels.

[quote]ORIGINAL: cacimar

are we serioouly going to argue this!!!! Who in the world would compare a fox body against a C6 Z06 weight wise ? With today safty standards seeing a car with 505 bhp weighing only 3150lbs is a very tought task to achieved fella.
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Can you tell me some safety standard differences between 1993 and now that adds weight?

A bigger factor ( no pun intended) is that cars are larger overall now

ORIGINAL: JD1969

It's funny you mention the old muscle cars Ed, I have meet many people who think those old cars were super heavy. My 69 Super Bee was only about 3400 lbs the only light weight stuff was the hood and wheels.


I ran into a guy with a restored 73 Camaro (friggin' beautiful). I used to have a '76 and it reminded me of how big those cars were. The hood went on forever. But then the guy said the car weighed 3400 pounds. I was amazed. I guess it is all the safety crap that today's cars have that add a lot of the weight. You can't just chalk it up to size, because this Camaro was pretty damn big. I wish I had my camera with me. The car was hot.

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ORIGINAL: JD1969

It's funny you mention the old muscle cars Ed, I have meet many people who think those old cars were super heavy. My 69 Super Bee was only about 3400 lbs the only light weight stuff was the hood and wheels.


I ran into a guy with a restored 73 Camaro (friggin' beautiful). I used to have a '76 and it reminded me of how big those cars were. The hood went on forever. But then the guy said the car weighed 3400 pounds. I was amazed. I guess it is all the safety crap that today's cars have that add a lot of the weight. You can't just chalk it up to size, because this Camaro was pretty damn big. I wish I had my camera with me. The car was hot.


All the safety equipment in todays muscle compared to old muscle is amazing.
If the 73 Camaro you were talkin about was the same size as say a 02 SS, it would weigh a lot less I'd imagine.

ORIGINAL: cacimar

GT500 that ran 9's with slicks, tune, pulley, full exhaust, and 75 shot.(so they claim)

Can someone please send me a link where evolution inc. made a 660+ rwhp on a gt-500 witha pulley, tune, and 75 shot that ran 9. Im just not buying that!!!! Again not the video where it runs 9 but rather the mods done to it.



They first broke into 10s with:
578 RWHP and 582 RWTQ

They broke into the 9s as aforementioned with:
664 RWHP and 778 RWTQ
...these are on a Mustang Dyno

Mods:
2.5" Pulley
JLT Carbon Fiber Cold Air Intake System
Stainless Works Long Tube Headers
3� Exhaust System with X-Pipe
4.10 Gears
75 Shot of Nitrous
Custom Tune using SCT Advantage III Software

from: http://www.evoperform.com/custom_tuning.htm


It now makes:
876 RWHP and 920 RWTQ on 24lbs of boost

Additional Mods:
Kenne Bell 2.8
twin-75mm throttle body

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3InpuaXLkWc

Going back to that video of the modified GT500 vs. modified Z06. I am guessing the Z06 with headers, tune, CAI would be near the 500whp mark. Doing the math that would put the Z06comperable to the GT500 at 640whp for power to weight.

Why I don't understand is why he would race the Z06 from a roll where he is at a disadvantage. The lower drag coefficient of the Z06 gives it a decisive advantage.The GT500 wouldhave abetter chance in the 1/4. I've alwaysfelt a roll race wassomewhat pointless.

On the subject of weight and size,Has anyone seen where they park a new Challenger in front of an old Challenger.It makes the new car look HUGE!

ORIGINAL: lieu910

Going back to that video of the modified GT500 vs. modified Z06. I am guessing the Z06 with headers, tune, CAI would be near the 500whp mark. Doing the math that would put the Z06Â*comperable to the GT500 at 640whp for power to weight.

Why I don't understand is why he would race the Z06 from a roll where he is at a disadvantage. The lower drag coefficient of the Z06 gives it a decisive advantage.Â*The GT500 wouldÂ*have aÂ*better chance in the 1/4. I've alwaysÂ*felt a roll race wasÂ*somewhat pointless.Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*


From a roll, the GT500 weight disadvantage becomes less of an issue. From a dig, if the Z06 is launched properly, things will get ugly quick. 640hp in a heavy car with stock tires = death.

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ORIGINAL: lieu910

Going back to that video of the modified GT500 vs. modified Z06. I am guessing the Z06 with headers, tune, CAI would be near the 500whp mark. Doing the math that would put the Z06comperable to the GT500 at 640whp for power to weight.

Why I don't understand is why he would race the Z06 from a roll where he is at a disadvantage. The lower drag coefficient of the Z06 gives it a decisive advantage.The GT500 wouldhave abetter chance in the 1/4. I've alwaysfelt a roll race wassomewhat pointless.


From a roll, the GT500 weight disadvantage becomes less of an issue. From a dig, if the Z06 is launched properly, things will get ugly quick. 640hp in a heavy car with stock tires = death.

He never said anything about being on stock tires?

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ORIGINAL: lieu910

Going back to that video of the modified GT500 vs. modified Z06. I am guessing the Z06 with headers, tune, CAI would be near the 500whp mark. Doing the math that would put the Z06Â*comperable to the GT500 at 640whp for power to weight.

Why I don't understand is why he would race the Z06 from a roll where he is at a disadvantage. The lower drag coefficient of the Z06 gives it a decisive advantage.Â*The GT500 wouldÂ*have aÂ*better chance in the 1/4. I've alwaysÂ*felt a roll race wasÂ*somewhat pointless.Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*


From a roll, the GT500 weight disadvantage becomes less of an issue. From a dig, if the Z06 is launched properly, things will get ugly quick. 640hp in a heavy car with stock tires = death.

He never said anything about being on stock tires?



He never said anything about drag tires either.

ORIGINAL: 08 Bullitt 2310

On the subject of weight and size,Has anyone seen where they park a new Challenger in front of an old Challenger.It makes the new car look HUGE!


Thats because it is huge. Its a two-door 300C. Look at the size difference between the '79-'04 mustangs and the S197 cars. Look at the difference between a '65 K-code fastack mustang compared to a S197. New cars are big.

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ORIGINAL: lieu910

Going back to that video of the modified GT500 vs. modified Z06. I am guessing the Z06 with headers, tune, CAI would be near the 500whp mark. Doing the math that would put the Z06comperable to the GT500 at 640whp for power to weight.

Why I don't understand is why he would race the Z06 from a roll where he is at a disadvantage. The lower drag coefficient of the Z06 gives it a decisive advantage.The GT500 wouldhave abetter chance in the 1/4. I've alwaysfelt a roll race wassomewhat pointless.


From a roll, the GT500 weight disadvantage becomes less of an issue. From a dig, if the Z06 is launched properly, things will get ugly quick. 640hp in a heavy car with stock tires = death.

He never said anything about being on stock tires?



He never said anything about drag tires either.

:eek: smartass.




[8D]

So is this race going to happen or what? Hey ED i could paypal you with a 100 dollars on you if you are betting. Im in need for extra 100 bucks to take the gf out lol

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ORIGINAL: JD1969

It's funny you mention the old muscle cars Ed, I have meet many people who think those old cars were super heavy. My 69 Super Bee was only about 3400 lbs the only light weight stuff was the hood and wheels.


I ran into a guy with a restored 73 Camaro (friggin' beautiful). I used to have a '76 and it reminded me of how big those cars were. The hood went on forever. But then the guy said the car weighed 3400 pounds. I was amazed. I guess it is all the safety crap that today's cars have that add a lot of the weight. You can't just chalk it up to size, because this Camaro was pretty damn big. I wish I had my camera with me. The car was hot.

My 69 Bee was 18 feet long and still lighter than most cars.

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So is this race going to happen or what? Hey ED i could paypal you with a 100 dollars on you if you are betting. Im in need for extra 100 bucks to take the gf out lol


No rely yet. I will let you guys know for sure.

yeah its not going to be even close. MY dad has a stock one and it is a really nice car. just not all that fast by my standards. for a stock car it is up there but thats about it. A gt-500 is no contest for a z06 vette and for the price point it should not be. my dad paid 47,500 for his gt 500 the vette is around 80ish.

Make that 70k ish for the Z06, but I agree. Apples and oranges.

I got a short ride in a Z06 this morning. Man its a nice ride. 427 CID pulling to 7000 RPM - really an amazing car

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Whens the raping?


+1

ORIGINAL: BicketyBam

Make that 70k ish for the Z06, but I agree. Apples and oranges.



really, i just typed in 2008z06 corvette sticker price and one of the results showed 3 prices the lowest was 80 highest was 85. coulda been wrong though.

There's a new Z06 at a Chevy dealer in Charlotte that had a sticker of $71 and some change.

ORIGINAL: WRXtranceformed

There's a new Z06 at a Chevy dealer in Charlotte that had a sticker of $71 and some change.

There are a few '08 Zs with a sticker of 68-69k down here

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ORIGINAL: JD1969

It's funny you mention the old muscle cars Ed, I have meet many people who think those old cars were super heavy. My 69 Super Bee was only about 3400 lbs the only light weight stuff was the hood and wheels.


I ran into a guy with a restored 73 Camaro (friggin' beautiful). I used to have a '76 and it reminded me of how big those cars were. The hood went on forever. But then the guy said the car weighed 3400 pounds. I was amazed. I guess it is all the safety crap that today's cars have that add a lot of the weight. You can't just chalk it up to size, because this Camaro was pretty damn big. I wish I had my camera with me. The car was hot.

My 69 Bee was 18 feet long and still lighter than most cars.



yea. The chevelle makes the Mustang look like a compact, yet doesnt even weigh 150lbs more, even with anearly(4 cubes short) double the displacement engine.