So, me and the Pegasus have gotten an S2000 an a fox body mustang in the last three days.
Race 1: S2000, from a 40 roll. I had two passengers, he had 1 (me 3 total, him 2 total). We both honked down, and I took off starting in second. I over-revved second and he pulled slightly ahead. But through third and fourth I was constantly gaining until at 110 there was about a fender to my credit. I think driver and driver in our cars and without my over rev, I'd of gotten a half a car to a full car on him. We talked for a bit after, driver was new to car, but he'd raced a mustang before and he was pretty comfortable with losing to Mustang's by now. He had just exhaust, but it sounded real nice. I wouldn't want such a torque-less car, but it was definitely enviable. BTW, they're interiors are WAY nicer.
Race 2: Blue fox body mustang was revving at me from the light. He was actually going straight and I was turning off, but who am I to pass up a challenge? I jumped back into a straight lane once traffic cleared out and followed him up L street, we got next to each other and started hauling ass. Right at the end of second, his nose went down and I gained almost half a car instantly... I thought he was shutting down... so I let off it and then he took off like a bat out of hell gaining all my spread and then some. My thought, what the hell? So I laid back into it, and towards the middle of third we both shut back down with me a half a car ahead of him. Still, that car sounded AWESOME, and if you're on this board, your car is sick. [:o]
I know, street racing is bad, blah blah. but me and the GT are starting to mesh and I'm getting some kills I am actually proud of. [8D]
avlon06
05-07-2008, 12:28 AM
what mods you got?
aynjell
05-07-2008, 03:12 AM
ORIGINAL: avlon06
what mods you got?
Royal Purple engine oil, Royal purple synchromax gear oil, K&N air cleaner, I've removed the intake silencer, and wider tires, other than that, nothing that might improve or detriment performance. And from a roll, my wheels probably hurt me.
USMCrebel
05-07-2008, 08:25 AM
oil isnt a mod is it[>:] nice race's was the fox stock?
Hisss04Cobra
05-07-2008, 08:41 AM
ORIGINAL: aynjell
ORIGINAL: avlon06
what mods you got?
Royal Purple engine oil, Royal purple synchromax gear oil, K&N air cleaner, I've removed the intake silencer, and wider tires, other than that, nothing that might improve or detriment performance. And from a roll, my wheels probably hurt me.
Royal Purple engine oil, Royal purple synchromax gear oil, K&N air cleaner, I've removed the intake silencer, and wider tires, other than that, nothing that might improve or detriment performance. And from a roll, my wheels probably hurt me.
Ok so your stock then. Nice kills.
aynjell
05-07-2008, 11:39 AM
ORIGINAL: USMCrebel
oil isnt a mod is it nice race's was the fox stock?
Not really. Stock oil is motorcraft 5w20. Considering the difference I noticed, and it being similar in intensity to my K&N filter, it was worth listing as a "Mod" since it is a deviation from stock, it DID cost me decent money, and it made for a noticeable difference. The fluids in the gearbox and engine are probably responsible for almost as much power as the K&N filter. I wouldn't know how much that is, but it's definitely better than stock.
njdanmustang
05-07-2008, 11:57 AM
You guys don't know that oil gives you 15 rwhp. Stupid ^^^^
bluebeastsrt
05-07-2008, 12:05 PM
ORIGINAL: aynjell
ORIGINAL: USMCrebel
oil isnt a mod is it nice race's was the fox stock?
Not really. Stock oil is motorcraft 5w20. Considering the difference I noticed, and it being similar in intensity to my K&N filter, it was worth listing as a "Mod" since it is a deviation from stock, it DID cost me decent money, and it made for a noticeable difference. The fluids in the gearbox and engine are probably responsible for almost as much power as the K&N filter. I wouldn't know how much that is, but it's definitely better than stock.
Your but dyno must be sensative as hell (Sensative but, He He He[8D]) The K & N might have gave you 1WHP and the oil isn't going to increase power to the wheels at all. Most people cant tell the difference in a 13 flat pass and a 13.5 passtil they see the slips. And ittakes ruffly 15 horsepower to cut off a 1/0th at the track so I seriousaly doubt you can fell any difference from changing brands of oil..
aynjell
05-07-2008, 12:09 PM
ORIGINAL: bluebeastsrt
ORIGINAL: aynjell
ORIGINAL: USMCrebel
oil isnt a mod is it nice race's was the fox stock?
Not really. Stock oil is motorcraft 5w20. Considering the difference I noticed, and it being similar in intensity to my K&N filter, it was worth listing as a "Mod" since it is a deviation from stock, it DID cost me decent money, and it made for a noticeable difference. The fluids in the gearbox and engine are probably responsible for almost as much power as the K&N filter. I wouldn't know how much that is, but it's definitely better than stock.
Your but dyno must be sensative as hell (Sensative but, He He He) The K & N might have gave you 1WHP and the oil isn't going to increase power to the wheels at all. Most people cant tell the difference in a 13 flat pass and a 13.5 passtil they see the slips. And ittakes ruffly 15 horsepower to cut off a 1/0th at the track so I seriousaly doubt you can fell any difference from changing brands of oil..
Perhaps it's not so much just in the butt dyno. I refuse to believe it didn't drastically improve fluidity. One of the things I noticed right off the bat was how much easier it started. I can't describe how it feels during every day use, but I do notice a difference. And I feel every bump in the road, so there's got to be some sensitivity there.
ORIGINAL: njdanmustang
You guys don't know that oil gives you 15 rwhp. Stupid ^^^^
Hah, I wasn't looking for that. But you know, I wouldn't be surprised if between my gear oil and engine oil I gained about 5. There's a noticeable difference from the second startup (first sounds like I dropped spoons in there, obviously).
There was a difference, even if it's fun to pick on people about, and with the K&N filter yielding so little, they're probably even (oil and filter).
njdanmustang
05-07-2008, 12:12 PM
ORIGINAL: aynjell
ORIGINAL: bluebeastsrt
ORIGINAL: aynjell
ORIGINAL: USMCrebel
oil isnt a mod is it nice race's was the fox stock?
Not really. Stock oil is motorcraft 5w20. Considering the difference I noticed, and it being similar in intensity to my K&N filter, it was worth listing as a "Mod" since it is a deviation from stock, it DID cost me decent money, and it made for a noticeable difference. The fluids in the gearbox and engine are probably responsible for almost as much power as the K&N filter. I wouldn't know how much that is, but it's definitely better than stock.
Your but dyno must be sensative as hell (Sensative but, He He He) The K & N might have gave you 1WHP and the oil isn't going to increase power to the wheels at all. Most people cant tell the difference in a 13 flat pass and a 13.5 passtil they see the slips. And ittakes ruffly 15 horsepower to cut off a 1/0th at the track so I seriousaly doubt you can fell any difference from changing brands of oil..
Perhaps it's not so much just in the butt dyno. I refuse to believe it didn't drastically improve fluidity. One of the things I noticed right off the bat was how much easier it started. I can't describe how it feels during every day use, but I do notice a difference. And I feel every bump in the road, so there's got to be some sensitivity there.
ORIGINAL: njdanmustang
You guys don't know that oil gives you 15 rwhp. Stupid ^^^^
Hah, I wasn't looking for that. But you know, I wouldn't be surprised if between my gear oil and engine oil I gained about 5. There's a noticeable difference from the second startup (first sounds like I dropped spoons in there, obviously).
There was a difference, even if it's fun to pick on people about, and with the K&N filter yielding so little, they're probably even (oil and filter).
Dude bro, I was being 100% sarcastic. You maybe will see .1RWHP from oil change. Gear oil wouldn't affect your horsepower. Engine oil lubricates, so whenever you do an oil change you notice a difference. Royal purple is just a higher grade lubricant.
aynjell
05-07-2008, 12:15 PM
ORIGINAL: njdanmustang
ORIGINAL: aynjell
ORIGINAL: bluebeastsrt
ORIGINAL: aynjell
ORIGINAL: USMCrebel
oil isnt a mod is it nice race's was the fox stock?
Not really. Stock oil is motorcraft 5w20. Considering the difference I noticed, and it being similar in intensity to my K&N filter, it was worth listing as a "Mod" since it is a deviation from stock, it DID cost me decent money, and it made for a noticeable difference. The fluids in the gearbox and engine are probably responsible for almost as much power as the K&N filter. I wouldn't know how much that is, but it's definitely better than stock.
Your but dyno must be sensative as hell (Sensative but, He He He) The K & N might have gave you 1WHP and the oil isn't going to increase power to the wheels at all. Most people cant tell the difference in a 13 flat pass and a 13.5 passtil they see the slips. And ittakes ruffly 15 horsepower to cut off a 1/0th at the track so I seriousaly doubt you can fell any difference from changing brands of oil..
Perhaps it's not so much just in the butt dyno. I refuse to believe it didn't drastically improve fluidity. One of the things I noticed right off the bat was how much easier it started. I can't describe how it feels during every day use, but I do notice a difference. And I feel every bump in the road, so there's got to be some sensitivity there.
ORIGINAL: njdanmustang
You guys don't know that oil gives you 15 rwhp. Stupid ^^^^
Hah, I wasn't looking for that. But you know, I wouldn't be surprised if between my gear oil and engine oil I gained about 5. There's a noticeable difference from the second startup (first sounds like I dropped spoons in there, obviously).
There was a difference, even if it's fun to pick on people about, and with the K&N filter yielding so little, they're probably even (oil and filter).
Dude bro, I was being 100% sarcastic. You maybe will see .1RWHP from oil change. Gear oil wouldn't affect your horsepower. Engine oil is lubricates, so whenever you do an oil change you notice a difference. Royal purple is just a higher grade lubricant.
Stock motorcraft will do the same thing from second startup, chugging and generally hating you. Seems most GT's I ran into did that. Royal purple cured that and several other things, but I don't wanna discuss it. Moving on. I beat two cars...
And another guy asked if the fox was stock. I wouldn't know, I guess. We didn't talk after the race.The sound was way different from a stock fox, but had stock tips, so maybe it was cut off, but I couldn't tell you. Didn't seem loud enough for cut offs. Perhaps he had H/C/I, I know that's usually first base for fox owners.
USMCrebel
05-07-2008, 12:15 PM
i can see a 5-7hp gain thinking about it.
i mean if it reduced friction in the engine that will give you X gain and the if the DT also has less friction freeing up more hp the k&N is good fro about 2-3whp, so i can see a 5rwhp gain....but i dont think it would be noticable on the street/strip
aynjell
05-07-2008, 12:18 PM
ORIGINAL: USMCrebel
i can see a 5-7hp gain thinking about it.
i mean if it reduced friction in the engine that will give you X gain and the if the DT also has less friction freeing up more hp the k&N is good fro about 2-3whp, so i can see a 5rwhp gain....but i dont think it would be noticable on the street/strip
No, not the power gains, definitely not. But the symptoms make me believe it's there.
USMCrebel
05-07-2008, 12:20 PM
regardless of what hp gains/ lack of you got good races.
aynjell
05-07-2008, 12:26 PM
ORIGINAL: USMCrebel
regardless of what hp gains/ lack of you got good races.
Well, I am still kicking myself for screwing them both up. The first one I over revved and the second one he miss shifted so bad I thought he was shutting down. If I'd of kept going on the second I'd of ruined him. First one, well, I was just being newb but had the car been empty and I wouldn't of miss shifted... god not doing your best is almost as bad as losing! [:o]
Mishri
05-07-2008, 12:35 PM
just because your engine is running smoother doesn't make it faster.... ... [:'(]
USMCrebel
05-07-2008, 12:40 PM
ORIGINAL: Mishri
just because your engine is running smoother doesn't make it faster.... ... [:'(]
less friction= better right, but by your logic your saying someones else that is not lubed up at all will perform the same as a well lubed engine?
better heat dispersion and cooling WILL allow for more gains and a better oil disperses heat and maintians viscosity.
DS002
05-07-2008, 01:05 PM
On horsepower TV a few years back they dynod a camaro before and after a royal purple oil change and it picked up I believe right around 7rwhp. I dont know if Id mention it as a modification personally but it does pick up a bit more power.
aynjell
05-07-2008, 01:08 PM
ORIGINAL: DS002
On horsepower TV a few years back they dynod a camaro before and after a royal purple oil change and it picked up I believe right around 7rwhp. I dont know if Id mention it as a modification personally but it does pick up a bit more power.
Um, there are expensive mods that don't give that much. By that logic, why tell people you have long tubes or cat back?
bluebeastsrt
05-07-2008, 01:11 PM
ORIGINAL: DS002
On horsepower TV a few years back they dynod a camaro before and after a royal purple oil change and it picked up I believe right around 7rwhp. I dont know if Id mention it as a modification personally but it does pick up a bit more power.
I'm calling bullsh*t on that also! Do ya think royal purple might be a sponsor? No way in hell are you going to see that at the wheels. Maybe at the crank, not the wheels.
USMCrebel
05-07-2008, 01:11 PM
long tube/ cat back/ tune would net me ~30rwhp and 50rwtq.......thats a pretty nice gain.for just over $1300.
but yeah oil change is a regular maintanance
ripped camel
05-07-2008, 01:17 PM
I swear by Royal Purple.......and sometimes when I have a terrets fit, I swear at it:D
aynjell
05-07-2008, 01:23 PM
ORIGINAL: USMCrebel
long tube/ cat back/ tune would net me ~30rwhp and 50rwtq.......thats a pretty nice gain.for just over $1300.
but yeah oil change is a regular maintanance
I've never seen numbers that suggested a GT could pick up that much. I wish I had a 4v. =(
ORIGINAL: bluebeastsrt
ORIGINAL: DS002
On horsepower TV a few years back they dynod a camaro before and after a royal purple oil change and it picked up I believe right around 7rwhp. I dont know if Id mention it as a modification personally but it does pick up a bit more power.
I'm calling bullsh*t on that also! Do ya think royal purple might be a sponsor? No way in hell are you going to see that at the wheels. Maybe at the crank, not the wheels.
What, did you think all those parts you buy at the store are rated at the wheels?
USMCrebel
05-07-2008, 01:26 PM
most parts from stores arent rated for anything
bluebeastsrt
05-07-2008, 01:27 PM
ORIGINAL: aynjell
ORIGINAL: USMCrebel
long tube/ cat back/ tune would net me ~30rwhp and 50rwtq.......thats a pretty nice gain.for just over $1300.
but yeah oil change is a regular maintanance
I've never seen numbers that suggested a GT could pick up that much. I wish I had a 4v. =(
ORIGINAL: bluebeastsrt
ORIGINAL: DS002
On horsepower TV a few years back they dynod a camaro before and after a royal purple oil change and it picked up I believe right around 7rwhp. I dont know if Id mention it as a modification personally but it does pick up a bit more power.
I'm calling bullsh*t on that also! Do ya think royal purple might be a sponsor? No way in hell are you going to see that at the wheels. Maybe at the crank, not the wheels.
What, did you think all those parts you buy at the store are rated at the wheels?
Where does a dyno measure power? At the wheels right. UNLESS someone specificlly saysit's measuredon an engine dyno it means there measuring at the wheels. Get it?
aynjell
05-07-2008, 01:30 PM
ORIGINAL: bluebeastsrt
ORIGINAL: aynjell
ORIGINAL: USMCrebel
long tube/ cat back/ tune would net me ~30rwhp and 50rwtq.......thats a pretty nice gain.for just over $1300.
but yeah oil change is a regular maintanance
I've never seen numbers that suggested a GT could pick up that much. I wish I had a 4v. =(
ORIGINAL: bluebeastsrt
ORIGINAL: DS002
On horsepower TV a few years back they dynod a camaro before and after a royal purple oil change and it picked up I believe right around 7rwhp. I dont know if Id mention it as a modification personally but it does pick up a bit more power.
I'm calling bullsh*t on that also! Do ya think royal purple might be a sponsor? No way in hell are you going to see that at the wheels. Maybe at the crank, not the wheels.
What, did you think all those parts you buy at the store are rated at the wheels?
Where does a dyno measure power? At the wheels right. UNLESS someone specificlly saysit's measuredon an engine dyno it means there measuring at the wheels. Get it?
Hey, just saying. 50$ for 7HP is a good deal... and there are few parts you can buy for a GT that can do that, granted the oil probably doesn't yield even half that on a GT, but I still say it gives us some go and given the cost effectiveness/efficiency over long tubes and cat backs, it's more of a useful mod than they are.
bluebeastsrt
05-07-2008, 01:31 PM
I'm pretty much done with this thread. If your impressed with your royal purple oil changes god help you if you ever strap a supercharger or nitrous on that slow car of yours. Your likely to travel back in time your going so fast.[&:]
aynjell
05-07-2008, 01:32 PM
ORIGINAL: USMCrebel
most parts from stores arent rated for anything
Most parts in stores ARE rated for some gain. First thing I pulled up says 15 to 25: Which is an estimated gain rating.
Keep looking around. You'll find that few parts from stores aren't rated for something. Every part will give you some pro or con to consider, gears tell you how much it'll shave off your 1/4, exhaust and intake tells you HP gains, and so on.
aynjell
05-07-2008, 01:34 PM
ORIGINAL: bluebeastsrt
I'm pretty much done with this thread. If your impressed with your royal purple oil changes god help you if you ever strap a supercharger or nitrous on that slow car of yours. Your likely to travel back in time your going so fast.
Noticing something isn't saying it's faster than crap. Just because you can't beat your idea into me doesn't mean I'm off on the deep end. I'm just saying, like I've always been saying, Royal Purple makes enough difference that it should be listed in there, and I'll KEEP listing it, because I noticed a difference enough to keep paying the money I pay for it.
And yeah, I'm scared to death of a supercharger, though.
aynjell
05-07-2008, 01:36 PM
Anyway, races were fun.
USMCrebel
05-07-2008, 01:38 PM
sorry man, oil is not a mod, it will gain you anything, but only free up what is already there. im pretty sure i cant go to auto zome grab up some part and make any gains worth noting.
aynjell
05-07-2008, 01:43 PM
ORIGINAL: USMCrebel
sorry man, oil is not a mod, it will gain you anything, but only free up what is already there. im pretty sure i cant go to auto zome grab up some part and make any gains worth noting.
Then UD pulley's aren't mods either. [:o]
USMCrebel
05-07-2008, 01:45 PM
...dude your catching on!
aynjell
05-07-2008, 01:47 PM
ORIGINAL: USMCrebel
...dude your catching on!
But they're totally put into a mod's section. It's still a bolt on MODIFICATION of the stock system.Let's see, your mustang has a list of specs, right? Well those specs are based on stock fills of stock used fluids. If we change the fluid, we change the stock setup, if we change the pulleys, we change the stock setup, same with a cold air setup, or heads or a longer stroke.
USMCrebel
05-07-2008, 01:48 PM
but OIL IS NOT A MOD, otherwise i mod my car every 5k miles
aynjell
05-07-2008, 01:54 PM
ORIGINAL: USMCrebel
but OIL IS NOT A MOD, otherwise i mod my car every 5k miles
You change your oil every 5000 miles? I'd consider changing from motorcraft to RP a mod, but changing RP to RP is not a mod.
USMCrebel
05-07-2008, 02:03 PM
ok, but just so you know its not...yes i chage every 5k miles, i run full synthetic with lucas.....i could go out to 7k or more, but i dont like that
drhoward
05-07-2008, 02:31 PM
ORIGINAL: aynjell
ORIGINAL: njdanmustang
ORIGINAL: aynjell
ORIGINAL: bluebeastsrt
ORIGINAL: aynjell
ORIGINAL: USMCrebel
oil isnt a mod is it nice race's was the fox stock?
Not really. Stock oil is motorcraft 5w20. Considering the difference I noticed, and it being similar in intensity to my K&N filter, it was worth listing as a "Mod" since it is a deviation from stock, it DID cost me decent money, and it made for a noticeable difference. The fluids in the gearbox and engine are probably responsible for almost as much power as the K&N filter. I wouldn't know how much that is, but it's definitely better than stock.
Your but dyno must be sensative as hell (Sensative but, He He He) The K & N might have gave you 1WHP and the oil isn't going to increase power to the wheels at all. Most people cant tell the difference in a 13 flat pass and a 13.5 passtil they see the slips. And ittakes ruffly 15 horsepower to cut off a 1/0th at the track so I seriousaly doubt you can fell any difference from changing brands of oil..
Perhaps it's not so much just in the butt dyno. I refuse to believe it didn't drastically improve fluidity. One of the things I noticed right off the bat was how much easier it started. I can't describe how it feels during every day use, but I do notice a difference. And I feel every bump in the road, so there's got to be some sensitivity there.
ORIGINAL: njdanmustang
You guys don't know that oil gives you 15 rwhp. Stupid ^^^^
Hah, I wasn't looking for that. But you know, I wouldn't be surprised if between my gear oil and engine oil I gained about 5. There's a noticeable difference from the second startup (first sounds like I dropped spoons in there, obviously).
There was a difference, even if it's fun to pick on people about, and with the K&N filter yielding so little, they're probably even (oil and filter).
Dude bro, I was being 100% sarcastic. You maybe will see .1RWHP from oil change. Gear oil wouldn't affect your horsepower. Engine oil is lubricates, so whenever you do an oil change you notice a difference. Royal purple is just a higher grade lubricant.
Stock motorcraft will do the same thing from second startup, chugging and generally hating you. Seems most GT's I ran into did that. Royal purple cured that and several other things, but I don't wanna discuss it. Moving on. I beat two cars...
And another guy asked if the fox was stock. I wouldn't know, I guess. We didn't talk after the race.The sound was way different from a stock fox, but had stock tips, so maybe it was cut off, but I couldn't tell you. Didn't seem loud enough for cut offs. Perhaps he had H/C/I, I know that's usually first base for fox owners.
If that fox had a HCI swap he would have absoulutly raped you unless it was piloted by a blind monkey with down syndrome
Black Mamba GTT
05-07-2008, 06:13 PM
I change my oil every 3000 miles, I mean mod...I mean....wait......i'm lost!!
Sarge_13
05-07-2008, 06:16 PM
ORIGINAL: Black Mamba GTT
I change my oil every 3000 miles, I mean mod...I mean....wait......i'm lost!!
Beautiful Vette man!
Black Mamba GTT
05-07-2008, 06:32 PM
Thank you it was a birthday present to myself. haha[8D]
BicketyBam
05-07-2008, 06:36 PM
Congrats!
I guess I should name my car......
Sarge_13
05-07-2008, 06:40 PM
ORIGINAL: BicketyBam
Congrats!
I guess I should name my car......
I'm totally jealous of your car Ed [&o]
Black Mamba GTT
05-07-2008, 06:45 PM
Ed, you don't have a name for your car? Come on, ca ca ca, come on!! I am thinking........Laurine? Maybe?
BicketyBam
05-07-2008, 06:47 PM
ORIGINAL: Sarge_13
ORIGINAL: BicketyBam
Congrats!
I guess I should name my car......
I'm totally jealous of your car Ed [&o]
Coming from a guy with a Vette AND a Cobra?! I'd love to own a Termie - so I am jealous back at you!
I just got it detailed today - should look good for a day or two.
i mean if it reduced friction in the engine that will give you X gain and the if the DT also has less friction freeing up more hp the k&N is good fro about 2-3whp, so i can see a 5rwhp gain....but i dont think it would be noticable on the street/strip
+1
i saw on horsepowertv the show hosts took a bone stock LS1 camaro (i think a 2000?) neways it was a M6 and they put Royal Purple synthetic motor oil and filter, transmission fluid, and rear end fluid, and gained 10hp on the dyno so it does work :D
PhattyDre16
05-07-2008, 08:59 PM
Hey all I know is an s197 on horsepower tv gained close to 8 hp from changing its oil, trans fluid, and gear lube to royal purple. That's a mod in my book.
BicketyBam
05-07-2008, 09:26 PM
Have you tried lightweight blinker fluid? Awesome stuff.
rezarxt
05-07-2008, 10:23 PM
I over revved second in a race against an sti. I went from 40mph and was paying more attention to if he was gaining or not lol. I slammed into 4th perfect though but he already had a couple lengths on me.
Sarge_13
05-07-2008, 10:27 PM
ORIGINAL: BicketyBam
ORIGINAL: Sarge_13
ORIGINAL: BicketyBam
Congrats!
I guess I should name my car......
I'm totally jealous of your car Ed [&o]
Coming from a guy with a Vette AND a Cobra?! I'd love to own a Termie - so I am jealous back at you!
I just got it detailed today - should look good for a day or two.
Okay okay. How about this?
straight across trade: ZO6 for Termie? [8D]
BicketyBam
05-07-2008, 10:40 PM
ORIGINAL: Sarge_13
ORIGINAL: BicketyBam
ORIGINAL: Sarge_13
ORIGINAL: BicketyBam
Congrats!
I guess I should name my car......
I'm totally jealous of your car Ed [&o]
Coming from a guy with a Vette AND a Cobra?! I'd love to own a Termie - so I am jealous back at you!
I just got it detailed today - should look good for a day or two.
Okay okay. How about this?
straight across trade: ZO6 for Termie? [8D]
When I get my ZR1 :D
Seriously, you have two awsome cars.
Sarge_13
05-07-2008, 10:41 PM
ORIGINAL: BicketyBam
ORIGINAL: Sarge_13
ORIGINAL: BicketyBam
ORIGINAL: Sarge_13
ORIGINAL: BicketyBam
Congrats!
I guess I should name my car......
I'm totally jealous of your car Ed [&o]
Coming from a guy with a Vette AND a Cobra?! I'd love to own a Termie - so I am jealous back at you!
I just got it detailed today - should look good for a day or two.
Okay okay. How about this?
straight across trade: ZO6 for Termie? [8D]
When I get my ZR1 :D
Seriously, you have two awsome cars.
Deal [8D]
You....have a bunch of awesome cars.
Thanks for the compliment :)
Black*Death
05-07-2008, 10:50 PM
ORIGINAL: bluebeastsrt
ORIGINAL: aynjell
ORIGINAL: USMCrebel
oil isnt a mod is it nice race's was the fox stock?
Not really. Stock oil is motorcraft 5w20. Considering the difference I noticed, and it being similar in intensity to my K&N filter, it was worth listing as a "Mod" since it is a deviation from stock, it DID cost me decent money, and it made for a noticeable difference. The fluids in the gearbox and engine are probably responsible for almost as much power as the K&N filter. I wouldn't know how much that is, but it's definitely better than stock.
Your but dyno must be sensative as hell (Sensative but, He He He[8D]) The K & N might have gave you 1WHP and the oil isn't going to increase power to the wheels at all. Most people cant tell the difference in a 13 flat pass and a 13.5 passtil they see the slips. And ittakes ruffly 15 horsepower to cut off a 1/0th at the track so I seriousaly doubt you can fell any difference from changing brands of oil..
I don't think oil "increases" the HP to wheels as much as cuts down on drivetrain loss aka more of lost HP gained back at wheels. Subtle difference. Oil Definately not a "Mod" in my book
ColinGT
05-07-2008, 11:27 PM
Wow this thread is just WOW
I hope i dont meet a mustang owner who tells me his mods are royal purple.
No offense, And no you wouldnt of pulled that much on a s2000 from a roll, they are pretty dead even stock for stock i would say, gts have the edge tho.
aynjell
05-08-2008, 02:03 AM
ORIGINAL: ColinGT
Wow this thread is just WOW
I hope i dont meet a mustang owner who tells me his mods are royal purple.
No offense, And no you wouldnt of pulled that much on a s2000 from a roll, they are pretty dead even stock for stock i would say, gts have the edge tho.
Okay, so you mean to tell me that being 350lbs heavy and missing a shift for almost two seconds, and still having half a car on him, I couldn't have done better at one man a piece with perfect shifts? Optimumly my car would be a car ahead. Now that that's out of the way...
With 100$ in RP fluids of various sorts in my car, I'm already doing quite well for performance improvement per dollar. Even if it's half the numbers that most people are saying RP throughout the drivetrain gives, then I'm already above most mods when you take into consideration installs that half the people end up paying. I will always list my choice in fluid because it makes a DIFFERENCE. We won't call it a mod, but we will call it a determining FACTOR in my car's ability to perform better than another car with similar power.
The topic of what makes a mod a mod and what doesn't is silly, if I did it to my car and it's faster, I modified it, even if it's a disposable item like oil or spark plugs.
S8ER01Z
05-08-2008, 08:02 AM
I change my oil when the light turns on, I get between 7 and 10 thousand miles... considering I do that in ~3 months time I guess it works out.
drhoward
05-08-2008, 09:18 AM
man I have only put around 5000 km's on my mustang in the 2 years I have owned it......I think I have changed the oil in it...I mean modded it around 5 times[8D]:D
Black Mamba GTT
05-08-2008, 10:34 AM
ORIGINAL: BicketyBam
Have you tried lightweight blinker fluid? Awesome stuff.
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ColinGT
05-09-2008, 01:35 PM
Well then this s200 couldnt drive. Or you konw what, it coulda be the RP kicking in.
aynjell
05-09-2008, 02:51 PM
ORIGINAL: ColinGT
Well then this s200 couldnt drive. Or you konw what, it coulda be the RP kicking in.
Quite possible, but I still beat him WITH a miss shift. So maybe he couldn't drive, but I was way over weight and miss shifted, that's a lot of room to swamp me in but he still didn't. Maybe he can't drive, maybe he drove it perfectly. But I wasn't at my best either, and I won. Ideally I think I'd still win.
okbfd
05-09-2008, 03:13 PM
ORIGINAL: aynjell
Perhaps it's not so much just in the butt dyno. I refuse to believe it didn't drastically improve fluidity. One of the things I noticed right off the bat was how much easier it started. I can't describe how it feels during every day use, but I do notice a difference. And I feel every bump in the road, so there's got to be some sensitivity there.
WOW......so that's why I feel every bump in the road now.....Mobil 1 FTW :eek:
I can't believe this actually made four pages [:'(]
aynjell
05-09-2008, 03:45 PM
ORIGINAL: okbfd
ORIGINAL: aynjell
Perhaps it's not so much just in the butt dyno. I refuse to believe it didn't drastically improve fluidity. One of the things I noticed right off the bat was how much easier it started. I can't describe how it feels during every day use, but I do notice a difference. And I feel every bump in the road, so there's got to be some sensitivity there.
WOW......so that's why I feel every bump in the road now.....Mobil 1 FTW
I can't believe this actually made four pages
The reason it made four pages is because idiots like you just HAVE to post in here ridiculing people. It's adorable, really.
I mean seriously, if I were to recap this entire thread it was me saying:
Hey, I beat some cars this weekend!
Other people: Neat, what are your mods!
None really, but i think my oil helped me a bit...
Other people: H4X!!! ur newb u can't use beter fluid and go faster OMG stfu
I guess things have to cost you a lot of money and never require replacement in order to be considered a mod. I guess the only thing that can be truly considered a mod after this thread is blowers, turbos, injectors, and nos. Everything else just releases power that would ordinarly be wasted.
bluebeastsrt
05-09-2008, 05:50 PM
ORIGINAL: aynjell
I guess things have to cost you a lot of money
You mean like oil that costs 9 bucks a quart?:eek: