306 stroker question?
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306 stroker question? - 5/6/2008 10:19:41 AM
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djcondo
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my 5.0 has 145xxx on it and i was going to start off by rebuilding the bottom end of the block. my question is if anyone has ever herd of Probe industries stroker kits and if they are good.
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RE: 306 stroker question? - 5/6/2008 10:26:15 AM
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FASTBLACK
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Probe is descent i guess. Are you saying you already have a 306 because a 306 is not a stroker. It's just a 302 bored .030
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RE: 306 stroker question? - 5/6/2008 10:32:50 AM
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djcondo
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thats what i thought it was too but i was confused because kit comes with a new crank, rods, pistons. heres the link. http://mustangsunlimited.com/itemdy00.asp?T1=SF306+01
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RE: 306 stroker question? - 5/6/2008 11:57:00 AM
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FASTBLACK
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You should do what joel suggested. A stroker kit can be had for about the same money, just a little more. Go with a 347 stroker.
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RE: 306 stroker question? - 5/6/2008 12:53:03 PM
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There are a couple different things you need to consider with a stroker over a bored engine (306). You will need a new flywheel and balancer, with some clearancing for the rods. If you are going to freshen up the engine, reuse your crankshaft and rods, and buy new pistons. It is cheaper than all, but does not include the power. It is a give or take situation.
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RE: 306 stroker question? - 5/6/2008 1:26:36 PM
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djcondo
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yeah i dont know what im doing yet. i dont want the 347 but i wouldent mind doing the 331
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RE: 306 stroker question? - 5/6/2008 1:52:58 PM
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ORIGINAL: djcondo yeah i dont know what im doing yet. i dont want the 347 but i wouldent mind doing the 331 Why 
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RE: 306 stroker question? - 5/6/2008 5:24:50 PM
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FLcracker9
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A lot may depend on his current setup. If my 302 blows, I'll probably go 306, or possibly 331, just because I already have a $500 custom CI cam designed for my 302 (which would suck in a 347), twisted wedge heads with the correct springs for the cam, and custom stalled converter designed specifically for my application (stall would actually be higher with a 347). All of these would need to be changed along with the induction system, $$$$$ (although the heads could be ported to take advantage of the bigger cubes).
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RE: 306 stroker question? - 5/6/2008 9:42:24 PM
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PJC Racing
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ORIGINAL: FASTBLACK Probe is descent i guess. Are you saying you already have a 306 because a 306 is not a stroker. It's just a 302 bored .030 Isn't a long rod 306 a stroker? I know that's not what he's talking about here, but others read and should know there is a 306 that is not just a 4.030 bore.
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RE: 306 stroker question? - 5/6/2008 9:55:41 PM
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5spd GT
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It is not considered a stroker, unless the stroke is changed. :) A long rod 306 typically has a 5.40" rod and a shorter compression height piston.
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RE: 306 stroker question? - 5/6/2008 10:01:44 PM
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ORIGINAL: 5spd GT It is not considered a stroker, unless the stroke is changed. :) A long rod 306 typically has a 5.40" rod and a shorter compression height piston. True David as a whole, but the piston stroke has increased. And there is a difference between a 5.09" rod and the 5.4" (increased piston speed caused by a longer rod). I just think everyone should know that not all 306's are bored 302's.
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RE: 306 stroker question? - 5/7/2008 5:08:59 AM
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djcondo
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its going to b mostly street driven and gas is like 800 dollors a gal, so thats what i was thinking but who knows..
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RE: 306 stroker question? - 5/7/2008 6:54:05 AM
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ORIGINAL: djcondo my 5.0 has 145xxx on it and i was going to start off by rebuilding the bottom end of the block. my question is if anyone has ever herd of Probe industries stroker kits and if they are good. What you need is a high compression(10.1) setup as far as cost .Cheaper. Probe .040 pistons, block bored and honed .040, pistons balanced and pressed like the old ones. Trickflow or Eldelbrock Intake. You should make at least 300rwhp with some decent heads, thats alot of power in a fox with massive torque and your ET will greatly reduce.
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RE: 306 stroker question? - 5/7/2008 7:20:19 AM
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aode08
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THR Made 339 NA RWHP with this setup and massive torque, added with 4:10,s it went 12's. Hi Comp 306 with ,TFS Heads,Holley Systemax intake, Comp 282 HR Cam, Long Tubes, MSD 6AL2, MSD HVC 2 coil, JLT CAI, C&L MAF.
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