my mustang died today.

im still not sure what killed it. but its dead none the less. every mechanic ive taken it to has been baffled by it, all they could tell me was that its "something in the valvetrain" more specificaly the valvetrain on the #1 cylinder. and as i was driving it today it decidedto give up the ghost, i managed to limp it home where it died. :(it will remain where it sits as a lifeless corpse untill maybe one day i can find the magic to make a resurrection. but untill then the ranks for the fight against ricers will remain a man short.

would anybody like to say a few final words?

Yeah...

HAHA!

:eek:

how rude.

Shoulda bought my PI longblock for 1500 and split the labor of taking it out with me.[:o]


Time for a Termie swap for you too?

sorry bri....i salute the passing ofa warrior

hey at least you have room in your driveway for a challenger now

Are you gonna keep the car or part it out?

How well would a 5.4 fit?

In his budget or the car?:D

$50, I'll pick it up later this week.

hahaha u guys forget im a college student...im broke, which means no termie motor, no new car, no nothing. i will be driving my 96 tbird untill i can afford to rebuild the motor. which the tbird isnt too much longer for the world ether. im considering moving up my ship out date to june and using the money from training to put a decent crate motor in it. so far thats my only option. i cant even sell it im still 3800 in the hole and couldnt sell if for that much anyway. the only problem with leaving sooner is that ide go to afghanistan in january. so it'd sit in my drive way for over a year until i could come home and "resurrect" it.

Ill give you 500 bucks for the carcass

so you dont even know wtf happend to it?

Time for twin turbos?:D

yeah bro mustangs suck at least ford circled the problem when they made their emblem wooooo go bowties

It just got tired of you talking so much ish about it's little v6 brothers.....[8D]

Just kidding. Good lord that sucks a lot of ass.

how are mechanics baffled by a problem "in the valvetrain"

is it as mod motor?

pull the valve covers

"OOOOO problem discovered....."

How's this for last words, "Shoulda got a V6."

ORIGINAL: Visage

How's this for last words, "Shoulda got a V6."




hahaha yes!!! lol
sorry to hear about your car, hope the motor swap/rebuild goes well:)

Bring it to a better mechanic.

American > rice ... always. Sell what's left and buy another?

ORIGINAL: Daytripper540

It just got tired of you talking so much ish about it's little v6 brothers.....Â*[8D]

Just kidding. Good lord that sucks a lot of ass.



lmao, haha Working V8 Mustang>working V6 mustang>dead V8 Mustang


Sorry to hear that though. I say you get to training/deployed as soon as possible to get funds up, that is if you finish school first.

ORIGINAL: kngdaka


ORIGINAL: Daytripper540

It just got tired of you talking so much ish about it's little v6 brothers.....[8D]

Just kidding. Good lord that sucks a lot of ass.



lmao, haha Working V8 Mustang>working V6 mustang>dead V8 Mustang


Sorry to hear that though. I say you get to training/deployed as soon as possible to get funds up, that is if you finish school first.

nope,

working V8 Mustang>dead V8 Mustang>dead V6 Mustang> working V6 Mustang.

hope that ends the confusion;)

dude, that sucks - sorry to hear about your loss


buy a junkyard motor from megual's used auto parts off the beltway, and we can fix that up. if not then sell me some of your mods. you did say it's an autotragic right?

A PI Engine with mid miles (50-70k) can be had for cheap... in the 700-1000 area.


You can get it running again, and with more power than before.

it could be collapsed lifters or something gay, if its only on 1 cylinder

id look into it before ditching the engine

can you not diagnose it yourself?

Try to find a cheap 5.4

I'd look into it. OHC FTL.

id say fast track your deployment, and get someone back home to buy parts for you, that way when you get back, everythings ready to go, no waiting for parts, engine work/ etc.


call a popular engine builder, spill the beans about your deployment, and your engine dieing, set something up with him to build you a bad ass engine, spend the money and do it right so it will last, and have a complete engine ready to go when you get back!

ok lets get something straight...i took it to USA racing engines, strictly performance, and M&J auto....ive had compression checks done more than once. ive had the valve covers off more than once. ive had a full electronic engine diagnostic done on it. AND NOBODY CAN GIVE ME A DEFFINATE ANSWER. in fact every1 tells me something different.

but anyways, my idea is ether go find a donor car w/ a pi motor, OR wait till after my training and buy a dss long block. anyway i slice it tho its gonna have more power after im done rebuilding it tho.

edit: but thanx for the support to those of u who gave it.

your first problem was taking it to strictly, they suck ass. take it to psi, patrick actually knows wtf he's doing


also, do you want to sell me any mods? i need a sct2

i have a diablo sport, and actually richard owes me a ****ing diablo revo [:@][:@][:@][:@][:@][:@][:@][:@]
well it isnt going any where right now. but if i take it any where(which will be on a flatbed)it will be USA racing engines. they have been building engines for my dad since the 70's. and as far as sellin mods to u i dont have anything u could use, wait i have some old flow 40's...

if you were in ga i could help you out, i know where a complete 96-98 gt auto car is for 400$

mmm no i need a 2001+ gt...i dont wantnon pi unless i absolutely have to settle for keeping non pi.

01 plus? 99 and 00 are pi too [>:]

i feel like a tard but what is pi

99 and 01 r windsor tho right? different timing chain cover and valve covers right? or am i just retarded?

oh and pi stands for performance improved. its basicaly just a better h/c/i design from ford that they put on the new edge gt's and a few other things. my car is a non pi. its the orginal 4.6 design and it SUCKS.

edit: i have done some research and made some phone calls, a new set of npi heads from ford is 2800 after the core charge is refunded. a new pi motor from ford is 3000 or so after the core charge. o'rielly's wants 2900 for a pi crate motor. i can buy a set of performance npi heads from ford racing for 1600. i think a new set of pi heads from ford racing is like 1800. havnt looked for used heads/motor yet but the last time i did i found a set of heads for 700. but i really dont wanna buy used parts cuz i really dont want something like this happening again.

i have to agree with bill. strictly does suck.

psi is a good shop. also fastlane and triangle speed shop in orange is also a good shop


good luck on ur build. id get rid of it and get something else

welllll its too late now to take it to a shop, but when i do im taking it to our personal mechanic, his name is reno. hes gonna charge me 700 to pull the heads off and put whatever heads i want back on.

i can hook you up with a set of npi heads for super cheap. theres this place over my 610 thats called "the head shop", you can take them there to get them worked. you can port npi heads more than you can pi heads

hmmmmmmmmmmm how cheap?

ripp off the damn heads and fix it yourself! what i would GIVE to have a home where i could do my own work

yeah my dads house haseverything i need to do it, just no space in the driveway or the garage. or time to do it. but its still 200 something for the headchanging kit, 100 something for new gaskets, plus the cost of what ever i decide to do i.e. pi head swap, fix the heads, new npi heads etc etc. so its still gonna be pretty expensive...and to me its just money but i gotta make more of it first so it just equals time.

holy cow! STOCK heads cost $1800!?!!?!


thats nuts

i love my 5.0 even more now!

depends on which heads and who u get them from...brand new pi heads yes can be that much. 900 per head. if u get them from a dealership(which is totally retarded but i asked a dealership) they r 1500 per head. and a motor is 3400. those r both b4 the core charge deduction.

http://www.fordracingparts.com/parts/part_details.asp?PartKeyField=6124
ford racing stock pi heads. 450 per head. so thats 900 total. thats really not too bad.

http://www.fordracingparts.com/parts/part_details.asp?PartKeyField=2239
ford racing npi high performance heads. 949 per head. 1900 total.

http://www.livernoismotorsports.com/view.phtml?f_cat=Performance+Packages%3A+Ford%3A+2-Valve%3A+Cylinder+Heads
stg1,2,3 livernois pi heads. starting at 1500 and going to 1900

...


Or, you can buy a pair of used heads from someone for 200, and have a machine shop check them over for what, 100?

good point...but if they ARENT good heads im out 200-300 bux. ide rather spend the money for brand new ones. i dont want the chance of ANY kind of head/valvetrain failure. im lookin at 900 for new heads 100 or less for a used pi intake(that i will buy used) 200 for head changing kit, 100 for new gaskets(if that) and 700 for labor. so hopefully i can do the whole shabang for less than 2000.

BUMP, anybody know where to get timing chain tensioners and timing chainsonline?

ok so heres an update. ive ditched the idea of buying new heads. its too $$$ and im getting sick of looking at my car sitting in the driveway. i just made a bid on a set of pi heads on ebay, and a bid on a pi intake w/ all the little goodies that go w/ it. timeformiller might sell me his old heads, minus the lifters(thanx miller for the help) ive also repriced some things. head chaning kit: 105. chain tensioners: 40(pair). full set of gaskets: 110-ish. used pi heads:350-500. used pi intake:50-100. add the price for new oil, and anything i might not have factored and im lookin at anywhere from 800-1000. and btw ive decided to tackle this myself. i cant see almost doubling my expenses just to have som1 else do what i can do myself for free.

Get a real motor...PI heads...pshhh HA![8D]

wanna give me a real donation? ide love to have a 4v :)

Well crap...looks like you'll have to sell it for parts. Damn.[8D]

I'll buy your rims.;)

ORIGINAL: brian1570

wanna give me a real donation? ide love to have a 4v :)


Pffft...4-valves are for suckers.

what would fagnuts need to drop a 351W (besides a bigger hood and the other computer **** **** ****) in his car, a 94-95 k member?

He'd need the USS Lincoln to help install it.

To op, fix your car it looks sweet as hell.

From summit you can get the ford racing PI heads for like 350 a piece. Whats so expensive about that?

^ maybe didnt know about them..


but bri i still have them ... no one else needs them..so if it comes down to it ill still sell them...

time for an s197

ORIGINAL: timeformiller44

^ maybe didnt know about them..


but bri i still have them ... no one else needs them..so if it comes down to it ill still sell them...



350 a head is too much, but yeah miller u r at the top of my list, if i cant grab these ebay heads for cheap, then im gonna hit u up. i just wanna thro a couple bids at these on ebay and see what happens. but if they go too high then u can bet ill buy yours.

ORIGINAL: SWATSCHOOL

To op, fix your car it looks sweet as hell.


thanx :). and yes i am going to fix it. ill be updating this thread when ever i make any headway.

hey cock

are you going to get the heads ported?

the pi heads? no, wasnt planning on it. why?

well because dude anything you can do for more horsepowe YOU SHOULD DAMN ****ING DO IT!

besides, its not a bad idea while they are already out of the car. may cost a few hundred bucks, but it will free up some horsepower. while you are at it, get some cams, a new tranny, an IRS suspension setup, and some neon underglow lights.

yeah and a kb blower, and full tubular suspension, and a roll cage, and a cowl hood, and a big brake kit...i mean why not since im doing the heads...

while you're at it, buy a new house and a huge garage, and ****.

yeah and while im doin that ill just go ahead and kill u...

i mean...

pi heads and intake ftw?

bump, whats a good set of cheap shorty headers?

MAC

mac doesnt make shorties for my car...nice try


NEXT

BBK.

why not get longtubes?

dont have the $$$ for lt's right now, ide need a new midpipe to boot.

bbk's r 300 bux btw...

lookin for something more like 200

just bought the heads, just need the intake now.

get long tubes

and make your own intake:eek:



actually make your own headers

YEAH ill let u know how that goes...

God damnit, you OT retards. Shoo! GET!

Anyways, you could have bought a valvetrain set and just rebuilt the head. Just have it tanked and fluxed to make sure it's not cracked (do that to the new one too) any machine shop can do it. Also have them check to make sure it's not warped. If so, it can be milled unless it's too severe (have yet to see that).

Anyways, it's not worth porting the heads on a basically stock motor. This WOULD however be an excellent time to do a cam swap. For headers, FRPP makes some cheap ones that work just fine. I bought mine for ease of install (just pull the old heads out with manifolds and all) and put the new ones in with shiny new hardware, new gaskets, etc. You won't get any real performance gain out of them.

but u know what...i just came across some money :)

;)


so i might just go ahead and buy LT's
i heard flowtech's are horrible, should i stay away from them? they are pretty cheap tho, and so are hedman. if i have it in my buget i will buy mac's but idk yet where all of my budget is going.

BBK's are your best shot for LT's and Hooker/ and Hooker Super Comp (pretty much just for racing)-- BBK's are on the cheaper side....
Flowtech- doesn't flow, they suck
Pacesetter's suck as well

GL
(Sorry bout the car, maybe it'll be faster, and more enjoyable this time around).....

yeah im thinking about goin w/ MAC LT's. ive bought MAC products b4 and they were really good quality. plus they are a little less expensive. 359 for the headers and 169 for the h-pipe. might go w/ the pypes LT's also they are the same price from am.muscle but w/ free shipping. only thing is i havent heard any feedback about pypes headers.and i have no idea if they r 2.5" or 3" collectors.

lt's are only going to net you about 5-10hp at best.

idk, im waiting to do somethings to the car to do headers, i dont think the gain is really worth the work/money right now for me.


gl with everything though and be sure to update us, im interested to see where this go's

yeah headers r on the fence right now. but i can tell u if i can afford it then lt's are going onif not then they wont. i think thats what its going to come down to. because 5-10hp here and there equals lower times and what not.

and yes i will deffinately keep updating. pics will come soon...

guess what? PICS!

http://i302.photobucket.com/albums/nn84/brian1570/piheads01.jpg
http://i302.photobucket.com/albums/nn84/brian1570/piheads02.jpg
http://i302.photobucket.com/albums/nn84/brian1570/PIintake.jpg

also doesany1 know if my c&l plenum will fit on the new intake? asked the techers but didnt get an asnwer, its been really dead in there lately...

on a the new intake? if was when how why old is then said intake of past beyond before never purchasing said new old kinda used intake headers cams of yesteryear month period?

lol i was a little drunk when i posted that. HAHAHA. stfu u know what i meant....