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Black Mamba GTT -> RE: I have to admit, the GT is smoking fast... (5/12/2008 10:33:49 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Grabber Why is it some of you think a V6 mustang would keep up with, and is similar in power with the GT? I guess some are forgetting, the .6 Liter in difference, 20 cyls. 90HP and 80 ft. lbs, oh, and I forgot , 3 valves per cyl. not 2 valves. I am also forgetting, how is it if a V6 can't break the low 14's bone stock, but the GT with ONLY a pinch more power, as some of you say, has run low 13's, and on average mid to high 13's. Not too bad for a slouch eh? Wait didn't someone here...i think.....with his 6 he ran like a 13.8 na. That's pretty damn good for an na 6, don't you think?[;)]

05MustangSally -> RE: I have to admit, the GT is smoking fast... (5/12/2008 3:05:57 PM)
I think some people are getting misled here. Myself, as well as others I'm sure, are not saying the GT is slow OR that the V6 is on the same level. What I was simply comparing was a stock S197 GT to my S197 V6 (when it was stock). The HP is different, the exterior upgrades are different, the sound is different, the handling is different...and much more, the price is different. Significantly (if you're talking about buying brand new GT). When I bought my Mustang, a V6 was not on my acceptance list. I told myself I'd search and search until I found an used GT for the right price. I honestly couldn't afford anything more than $20K at that time (April 06). But unfortunately, the S197 was still new and fresh and expensive, used or not. I found my 2005 Mineral Gray V6 used, loaded, clean and in my price range. I thought "why not...at least test drive it". I had driven a New Edge V6 and was not impressed to even pay $13K before this. The new 4.0 just blew me away for what it was and cost. So I gave in. I didn't want to to wait, I waited since 2003 for a new Mustang and here was my chance. Especially with only owning a '96 Saturn and a '04 Sentra since I got my license. [:'(] Not a GT but it would do and I've had fun with it. Now...many guys are right...I would have a GT right now if my finances allowed it. I know a lot of folks say a Mustang isn't a Mustang if it's not a V8...but I recall them releasing a V6 Mustang in it's early years of production, and there was no hate. So back to what I was saying... I'm not saying the GT is slow, or comparable to the V6. People just don't understand that when they say "It's more expensive, but you shoulda got a GT". At the time, a GT was $5K or more than what I paid. Another $100 monthly payment, plus about $50 in gas and $50 in insurance, it wasn't available to me. And the 90 HP more wasn't enough for me to splurge on. When I can afford it, I will own a GT. But some folks just prefer to respect their finances, alot of us pay for school full time and work full time and are completely independent or have a family or kids to support. We are lucky enough that Ford designed a fun and affordable "version" of an AWESOME car we all can enjoy [:D] Sorry for the long story guys [;)]

viperrmk -> RE: I have to admit, the GT is smoking fast... (5/12/2008 3:36:41 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Black Mamba GTT quote: ORIGINAL: Grabber Why is it some of you think a V6 mustang would keep up with, and is similar in power with the GT? I guess some are forgetting, the .6 Liter in difference, 20 cyls. 90HP and 80 ft. lbs, oh, and I forgot , 3 valves per cyl. not 2 valves. I am also forgetting, how is it if a V6 can't break the low 14's bone stock, but the GT with ONLY a pinch more power, as some of you say, has run low 13's, and on average mid to high 13's. Not too bad for a slouch eh? Wait didn't someone here...i think.....with his 6 he ran like a 13.8 na. That's pretty damn good for an na 6, don't you think?[;)] Hey congratulations dude on getting that C6. I had no idea you finally sold your mamba. You car looks damn nice.

Grabber -> RE: I have to admit, the GT is smoking fast... (5/12/2008 5:09:51 PM)
Mamba- N/A is one thing, I did mean bone stock. I understand some are not saying that the V6 compares to the GT, but some seem to think the biggest and most important difference is price. Now, just to clarify. Insurance- State Farm, $110 w/ 250 deductibles. So, how is insurance so much more, if you are a good driver, and have so so credit? Also, for a 550HP car, with every ooption and my 20's with me adding up to about 3700 lbs I average 17 MPG, that's all on the streets. Gas is not much of a difference. Point being, even the New Edge GT's, Pre 2005, are just as fast as the base V6 S197. Sure, it is a stout car. But everything about the S197 GT is improved, tuned better, and better quality. Yes, for those that "can't" afford a GT, that is definitely a car to get. Also, you can toss a S/C on a V6, you'll end up running high 12's, therefore a bolt-on S197 GT will still be faster. So, it is not the greatest investment to mod the V6 S197. I'm not trying to be an ass, but everywhere I go, every GT owner thinks their GT is just raw, and every V6 owner always wants to race, and talk crap about, how a GT is SOOOOOOO overrated for the price.

blackstang14 -> RE: I have to admit, the GT is smoking fast... (5/13/2008 12:45:01 AM)
Hey Grabber, Just so you can't say all V6 owners are against you, I think that the GT is a great value for the car. But lets not kid ourselves. There is NO investment potential for modding our stangs. Eventually, if we want to sell, we will likely sell our car for less than a stock model because most of the consumers will be scared to death that we beat the snot out of our cars. Not too mention repairs (possibly not covered by warranty) along the way because we want to play. It's not like we are buying real estate here. Basically we are all modding because going from 200-400 HP or 300-600 horsepower is freaking awesome. Now if you had a plan and want to run 10's at the track then go buy a GT and then go crazy. As long as you have a plan. I think people are crazy to think that the base v6 is not that much different than the GT or they just are not pushing the pedal to the floor. At the same time I don't get GT owners who look down upon V6 stangs that are heavily modded b/c they say it's just not worth the money. We do it for the same reason you do.

Grabber -> RE: I have to admit, the GT is smoking fast... (5/13/2008 5:45:07 AM)
I agree 100%. Those GT owners that look down on sixxers(Even though I did at one point) Are a-holes. The V6 can be made faster then the GT, with a couple grand or so. So, no biggy.

Black Mamba GTT -> RE: I have to admit, the GT is smoking fast... (5/13/2008 8:57:47 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: blackstang14 Hey Grabber, Just so you can't say all V6 owners are against you, I think that the GT is a great value for the car. But lets not kid ourselves. There is NO investment potential for modding our stangs. Eventually, if we want to sell, we will likely sell our car for less than a stock model because most of the consumers will be scared to death that we beat the snot out of our cars. Not too mention repairs (possibly not covered by warranty) along the way because we want to play. It's not like we are buying real estate here. Basically we are all modding because going from 200-400 HP or 300-600 horsepower is freaking awesome. Now if you had a plan and want to run 10's at the track then go buy a GT and then go crazy. As long as you have a plan. I think people are crazy to think that the base v6 is not that much different than the GT or they just are not pushing the pedal to the floor. At the same time I don't get GT owners who look down upon V6 stangs that are heavily modded b/c they say it's just not worth the money. We do it for the same reason you do. That is why I sold mine when I did. I didn't see the point in investing more money into a base model car that I was probably going to sell anyway. I got 23 for my car which was probably the most I could get out of it anyway. But if I were to wait longer the value would just go down and down so I had no better option but to sell. Yeah i spent alot of money on it but I just see it as having my fun and now gotta be more serious and realistic on what a car can do.

Sancho805 -> RE: I have to admit, the GT is smoking fast... (5/13/2008 9:52:11 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Black Mamba GTT *.....and now gotta be more serious and realistic on what a car can do.* my car realistically pulls some serious chicks....[8D] [;)]

Black Mamba GTT -> RE: I have to admit, the GT is smoking fast... (5/13/2008 10:10:49 AM)
haha then I need to come to your part of town!!!

Paleoc -> RE: I have to admit, the GT is smoking fast... (5/13/2008 10:45:31 AM)
This weekend I had a chance to follow someone (he knew the way) with a new CS-8 turn-1 (Shelbyfied GT - suspension, brakes, etc, without the supercharger). It was an interesting contrast. His car (which I believe was an automatic) seemed smoother in acceleration. Mine with the T-5 is zoom, shift, zoom, shift with the T-5 and supercharger requiring a lot of shifting due to real fast rpm spool-up. My car was faster but the CS-8/GT was no slouch by any means.

ptkthekid -> RE: I have to admit, the GT is smoking fast... (5/14/2008 9:44:55 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Boulevardvette quote: ORIGINAL: ptkthekid It's the manual trans. It bakes a HUGE difference in our cars. I have a manual sixxer. I think it's plenty fast. I got a chance to drive a stock auto GT. I was not super impressed. I truly feel that with a fair amount of go fast parts and a tune, I might be able to take a stock auto GT. On the other hand, Those manual GT's are pretty quick. If they have some go fast parts and a tune, They are probably beasts. Although, you don't see a lot of GT's modding thier rides. HAHA maybe with every single bolt on in the catalog, and if the GT has just a tune you better get some FI. Whats up with all the hate? You could give your opinion without bashin on me! Just for your information, my neighbors friend has a stock auto GT. I have driven it several times. I'm not super impressed with it. He has driven my manual sixxer several times. He has commented several times about how suprisingly fast it is. Can he beat me, OF COURSE HE CAN! But I still say if I had some go fast parts and a tune I might be able to take him. It's my opinion. One based on driving both cars many times. Ohhhhh, but here comes big bad GT man. Lowering himselt to come down here and bash on the lowly sixxers. Ohhhh, big man. It's jerks like you that give GT owners a bad name. Don't you have a forum of your own. Take your big "93 tune" and go elsewhere and leave us sixxers to enjoy our wonderful cars in peace.

Grabber -> RE: I have to admit, the GT is smoking fast... (5/14/2008 10:12:34 AM)
For a noob you are pretty ballsy. The point was, some of the sixxer owner's are claiming their V6 is only a pinch of a difference in performance. We are not bashing the V6. We all know without the V6, there really wouldn't be a mustang. I'll say it again, your average "non impressive AUTO GT' runs high 13's. A Bolt on Sixxer barely runs that, even with a great driver. So, tell me what I am missing, and please point out how we are "bashing" the V6.

ptkthekid -> RE: I have to admit, the GT is smoking fast... (5/14/2008 10:29:47 AM)
^sorry, that HAHA crack just rubbed me the wrong way

Grabber -> RE: I have to admit, the GT is smoking fast... (5/14/2008 10:32:26 AM)
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ptkthekid -> RE: I have to admit, the GT is smoking fast... (5/14/2008 10:46:00 AM)
^ The "HAHA maybe with every single bolt on" crack that boulevardvette made in his original post. I thought it was kind of harsh

Grabber -> RE: I have to admit, the GT is smoking fast... (5/14/2008 10:50:40 AM)
Oh, got it. [;)]

Sancho805 -> RE: I have to admit, the GT is smoking fast... (5/14/2008 11:04:20 AM)
i can't imagine me owning a GT and not having at least a CAI/Tune. there are so many comparisons between a modded V6 vs. bone stock GT but how many of us would keep our GT's bone stock? i will admit though, its sure fun as heck to have the underdog car and outperform expectations [;)].

Vegasfilter -> RE: I have to admit, the GT is smoking fast... (5/14/2008 11:09:46 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: ptkthekid quote: ORIGINAL: Boulevardvette quote: ORIGINAL: ptkthekid It's the manual trans. It bakes a HUGE difference in our cars. I have a manual sixxer. I think it's plenty fast. I got a chance to drive a stock auto GT. I was not super impressed. I truly feel that with a fair amount of go fast parts and a tune, I might be able to take a stock auto GT. On the other hand, Those manual GT's are pretty quick. If they have some go fast parts and a tune, They are probably beasts. Although, you don't see a lot of GT's modding thier rides. HAHA maybe with every single bolt on in the catalog, and if the GT has just a tune you better get some FI. Whats up with all the hate? You could give your opinion without bashin on me! Just for your information, my neighbors friend has a stock auto GT. I have driven it several times. I'm not super impressed with it. He has driven my manual sixxer several times. He has commented several times about how suprisingly fast it is. Can he beat me, OF COURSE HE CAN! But I still say if I had some go fast parts and a tune I might be able to take him. It's my opinion. One based on driving both cars many times. Ohhhhh, but here comes big bad GT man. Lowering himselt to come down here and bash on the lowly sixxers. Ohhhh, big man. It's jerks like you that give GT owners a bad name. Don't you have a forum of your own. Take your big "93 tune" and go elsewhere and leave us sixxers to enjoy our wonderful cars in peace. Indeed ballsy....actually, yes he does have a forum..your on it. I am definately one to admire someone else's car....few weeks ago, a sixer pulled next to me at a stop light...AWESOME car...sounded a lil ricey, but awesome none the less. Its all in perception i believe. I think v6'ers are just as cocky as the "big bad v8 guys".

Sancho805 -> RE: I have to admit, the GT is smoking fast... (5/14/2008 11:12:39 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Vegasfilter ....I think v6'ers are just as cocky as the "big bad v8 guys". i'm not cocky, just arrogant.....lol [;)].

theresa -> RE: I have to admit, the GT is smoking fast... (5/14/2008 11:17:23 AM)
Hold on, let me go get some popcorn! [:D]

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