Don't get me wrong, I don't want a GT, I really don't even find the need to add any more horses to my V6. It goes plenty fast and my racing days are behind me but the other day a friend of mine let me drive his 06 GT and wow.....I have to say, I was impressed. He had the stock shifter (too long, too slow) and it was a vert (thought it felt a little loose) but other than that the power was definitely there and definitely noticeable over a stock V6. I say this not to slam our cars, our cars are amazing and better on gas and cheaper to insure but I guess it convinced me that should I ever decide to spend a bunch for a few more ponies I would just buy a GT. Now, with that said, it just isn't going to happen...I remember reading some posts where some said they couldn't tell much of a difference between the two, that wasn't the case with me.

May I suggest one of each! :)

There is no denying the power of the GT. But for gas mileage and an every day daily driver the V6 just can't be beat.

Think of this, it's even faster sucking gas!!!!!

Try going from a v6 to a c6 vette.....now that's a difference. Vette gets better has milage too....win/win!!!

It's the manual trans. It bakes a HUGE difference in our cars. I have a manual sixxer. I think it's plenty fast. I got a chance to drive a stock auto GT. I was not super impressed. I truly feel that with a fair amount of go fast parts and a tune, I might be able to take a stock auto GT. On the other hand, Those manual GT's are pretty quick. If they have some go fast parts and a tune, They are probably beasts. Although, you don't see a lot of GT's modding thier rides.

i test drove an auto GT before i bought my sixer and the biggest difference was in the mid to high range (obviously). at that point, the sixer was enough for me. i guess i should take a GT manny out for a spin but i'm kinda hesitant because i don't want to keep thinking about it afterwards...[8D]

I test drove the GT manual and concluded that it was mostly the manual transmission that was impressing me most. The V8 doesn't have a huge amount more HP than the V6 and even the guy who sold me my PP thought so and bought himself a PP the following year rather than a GT. I'd have to try out the auto GT again to see if it is worthwhile but probably not. On the freeway, the GT manual felt like it didn't have very much pep to it for passing traffic (I downshifted into 4th at 60mph and floored it, seemed to be almost no go).

Fuel economy hmm well, I get 19.1mpg right now @ 33mph average.. the GT would give me something like 15.1 I believe. I guess if you want fuel economy, you gotta buy something with a 4cyl engine in it.

75% of mustangs sold are V6, I think it might have something to do with the initial test drive and the fuel economy.

Sancho805, I suggest you don't do that :) from personal experience.

why you guys hatin' on the v8's for?
shame on you![sm=icon_quiet.gif]

I did drive a manual GT and my V6 is manual as well, both vehicles were stock, no go fast add ons, I don't hate nor do I envy the GTers....its a car, nothing more, nothing less, I was just stating my observations about how I felt when comparing the two. I am glad I bought the V6 but I would be happy either way....guess I don't have cylinder envy?

ORIGINAL: onederful100

why you guys hatin' on the v8's for?
shame on you![sm=icon_quiet.gif]


hating!?....actually the opposite dude. but at the same time, we still got much luv for our 4.0's. ;)

amptor - you should have downshifted into 3rd @ 60 mph to experience the power!

i must say also....with my current mods, i feel like i have a 'lil GT'....lol [8D]

Having a 4.0 and 4.6 and talking to a couple diffenent mechanics I can add that the 6 is much more reliable than the V8. My own experience I've had coil problems(which the 4.0 doesn't have) and am still working on a #7 misfire problem that I haven't quite figured out yet plus plugs are known to shoot out of the 4.6 so from a reliability standpoint the V6 wins.

ORIGINAL: amptor

I test drove the GT manual and concluded that it was mostly the manual transmission that was impressing me most. The V8 doesn't have a huge amount more HP than the V6 and even the guy who sold me my PP thought so and bought himself a PP the following year rather than a GT. ...


90 HP and 80 TQ...that's quite a bit to me...:eek:

ORIGINAL: mdg

amptor - you should have downshifted into 3rd @ 60 mph to experience the power!


yeah that's what I'm figuring but not sure, there's definitely a learning curve to that manual transmission. but I drive in congested traffic so a manual might not really be what I should get. not sure what the difference between the gt and v6 autos are, I haven't driven a gt with automatic much yet.

I know the GT and v6 use the same auto tranny, the 5R55S, but I think they have a different input shaft?

Having owned both a v6 and a GT (manual)I would have to say that the difference is definately in the driveline. The stock GT shifts are much smoother and more solid. that having been said, I know someonewhois almost done with a conversion for the s197 v6's stock T5 to a TR6060.

Just google: tr6060 swap mustang v6

It's undeniable that the GT has more power, yes. But in my experience the v6 has the larger powerband. I used to feel the pull from 2500RPM on my 6-er. With the GT, I got almost nuthin until 3000 and it's not REALLY pulling until 3500.

ORIGINAL: Sancho805

i must say also....with my current mods, i feel like i have a 'lil GT'....lol [8D]



funny thing is, mine came stock with "chick magnet"

I guess I got lucky :D

I have yet to drive a GT, but I wouldn't mind having one as a weekend car! My DD would still have to be my peppy little v6 though!

I drove a GT this past weekend, '06 black fully equipt.

Yeah, it screams power alright, but I don't trust myself with all that on a daily basis...

I gave zee deela goood price, so he poot in poosee magnet
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xrpPbui37Dk

ORIGINAL: Wishbone

Having a 4.0 and 4.6 and talking to a couple diffenent mechanics I can add that the 6 is much more reliable than the V8. My own experience I've had coil problems(which the 4.0 doesn't have) and am still working on a #7 misfire problem that I haven't quite figured out yet plus plugs are known to shoot out of the 4.6 so from a reliability standpoint the V6 wins.


That's a new edge problem, not the S197. The S197 Gt's have their own Spark plug issues as in cementing themselves into the head from carbon build-upand breaking apart when being removed after 50K+ miles thanks to the 2 piece design of the plugs.

As for performance differences between a S197 V6 and GT remember that the computers in both cars are adaptive. So to drive a broken in V6 vs an off-the-showroom GT is no comparison. I bought an 08 GT auto with 82 miles on the odoand I can tell you the car has woken up since I've broken it in (1300 miles now).

Times for the both manual and auto GT are nearly identical in the 0-60mph and 1/4 mile with the manual having a slight one or two mph advantage at the trap. Auto's can be slap-shifted and it makes a HUGE difference in acceleration as does making sure to have your TCS off. It's factory on the GT, not sure about the V6. The TCS in the GT is seamless. I tried to spin the tires with the TCS on only got a slight slip, not even a chirp. Turned it off and good god I couldn't get off the gas fast enough to keep it from roasting the tires and had to feather it when it shifted to second to get the grip back.

I came from a V6 manual tranny (00) so I do occassionaly miss teh stick but I won't back to manual. I can actually channel surf on the radio now when cruising to work in rush hour traffic. :D

We sixers have german made engines. Assembled in America. Gt's on the other hand have american engines but assembled in mexico. My dad and I test drove the GT a month ago and there is a huge difference. I love both cars, test driving the Gt was sooooooooo fun but an extra 5-8 grand plus double the insurance isnt worth it. Someday I hope to buy a GT myself =)

the 6 cyl engine is made ina ford plant in Germany. the 8 cyl engine is made in Michigan. the MT is made in Mexico, and the AT is made in France. i believe they are both assembled in Michigan at the ford/mazda plant.

http://blog.cleveland.com/pdextra/2007/12/mustang_vs_camry.html

the computer i am using right now was assembled in china....[&:]

ORIGINAL: ptkthekid

It's the manual trans. It bakes a HUGE difference in our cars. I have a manual sixxer. I think it's plenty fast. I got a chance to drive a stock auto GT. I was not super impressed. I truly feel that with a fair amount of go fast parts and a tune, I might be able to take a stock auto GT. On the other hand, Those manual GT's are pretty quick. If they have some go fast parts and a tune, They are probably beasts. Although, you don't see a lot of GT's modding thier rides.



On cold days my v6 manual which is stock except for ninosport duals actually seems to get 0-60 times closer to 6 flat or at least very low 6s.

onederful100 (http://www.mustangforums.com/showProfile.asp?memid=74169), that was a good read. I'm curious as to what other vehicles around the world use the 4.0L. Also I thought Tremec(who makes the transmission/manuel) was a Canadian company. Wouldn't make sense for them to make them in Mexico I wouldn't think.

I know I had to be off a little bit but I usually do this for fun in the country with my friend. We get a stop watch and manually clock the 0-60 and I have gotten in in the 5's with my automatic tuned pony with parelli's. I admit though, some days it really does feel like it pulls WAYYYYyy harder than usual. I haven't even put in my 4.10's yet either.

I was driving to work yesterday morning and had to pass about 2 farm trucks. I floored it right after a stop sign (it's in the country) to pass them quickly before we got back out into traffic ahead. It just SCREAMED through the gears. I could see some people in the distance that were working on some canals turn around and stare when I passed. It just had soo much extra today. It was a bit chilly out. My mustang is n/a but not stock.

I test drove an automatic GT and can tell you that there is a considerable difference between that of the stock automatic GT, a tuned automatic GT (HAULS!), and a stock manual GT (regardless of tune really). My favorite of those was the manual which you could really tell that it had some power behind it. The auto GT without the tune just felt... like oatmeal...with getting up and going.

I would love to get a GT. I haven't had a chance to check out the power difference.....yet.
I live right by the Ford plant where they are made. Most of the Mustangs around here are V6's. Very rarely I see a GT.

Yesterday after leaving my sisters, me in my car, hubby in his Dodge Ram. I pull up to the light next to him...he jumps his truck, like to say let's get it.... I smile, and say let's go.
Light changes and I let it scream off the starting line...lol I had him by a couple of car lengths real quick....I'm pretty sure he let me win...but fun none the less.

I couldn't help but post this-
http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i216/cal64us/V6Mustang.jpg

[sm=funnypostabove.gif]I had a chance to drive a shelby mustang. I dunno they just felt heavy to me. My 6 felt alot quicker, even tho it was supercharged and all, but still. The shelby gt felt big and bulky to me.

About 6 months ago, I went to the Ford dealer "thinking" of trading in my V6 for a new 2008 GT. The dealer wanted to give me $13K for my car and sell the 2008 Candy Apple Red GT Manualfor $27K. I thought it through, we wrote down numbers and did some math. I really wanted to get an idea. So...finally, we went to take it out for a test drive. I took it out on a back road which was perfect. He said at the stop sign, floor it. So I took the offer and did so. Unfortunately, the only thing that really impressed me was the V8 growl as I took off and the impressive shifting through gears compared to my T-5 manual tranny in the V6. I was REALLY disappointed. I expected to be blown away. Expecting to be immediately convinced into buying it. The dealer said "Fast huh?". I said "Yeah." That's all I had to say. Of course, we got back and I said I think I'll keep my stang until Ford releases a more impressive GT that really separates itself from the performance of the V6. I think they put the two cars to close in comparison this time. So hoping for 2010, they will blow me away :D

Well there are more impressive V8 S197s but they all cost a small fortune. There's even a 5.0L special edition Parnelli Jones I wouldn't mind owning, but I think that one was still the SOHC engine. I was really hoping that Ford would put out the DOHC 5.0 but maybe that one doesn't get good fuel economy at all, who knows.

what would be the advantage of DOHC over the SOHC...i was under the impression that saying a DOHC was better than a SOHC was like saying a 32V is better than a 24V

ORIGINAL: basketballord

what would be the advantage of DOHC over the SOHC...i was under the impression that saying a DOHC was better than a SOHC was like saying a 32V is better than a 24V


i assume the same thing. more valves, more power potential.

ORIGINAL: 05MustangSally

About 6 months ago, I went to the Ford dealer "thinking" of trading in my V6 for a new 2008 GT. The dealer wanted to give me $13K for my car and sell the 2008 Candy Apple Red GT Manualfor $27K. I thought it through, we wrote down numbers and did some math. I really wanted to get an idea. So...finally, we went to take it out for a test drive. I took it out on a back road which was perfect. He said at the stop sign, floor it. So I took the offer and did so. Unfortunately, the only thing that really impressed me was the V8 growl as I took off and the impressive shifting through gears compared to my T-5 manual tranny in the V6. I was REALLY disappointed. I expected to be blown away. Expecting to be immediately convinced into buying it. The dealer said "Fast huh?". I said "Yeah." That's all I had to say. Of course, we got back and I said I think I'll keep my stang until Ford releases a more impressive GT that really separates itself from the performance of the V6. I think they put the two cars to close in comparison this time. So hoping for 2010, they will blow me away :D


Sounds like you left the Traction Control 'On' IMO. it's on by default when you start the car. It kills the acceleration on the GT's. Eitherway, A brand new S197 dogs (V6 or V8). You need to drive one that's been broken in.

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ORIGINAL: basketballord

what would be the advantage of DOHC over the SOHC...i was under the impression that saying a DOHC was better than a SOHC was like saying a 32V is better than a 24V


i assume the same thing. more valves, more power potential.



here is what i knew i had read somewhere on this topic. a quote from the other forum:

"I think the factory heads flow pretty decently, and flow very well with a good port/valve job. Who cares how many cams are there? Sounds like ricer talk to me ;)

'I have 16 valves too!' C5-driving friend of mine to a Honda boy."

lol just thought i'd share that

I love the GTs but I'd spend a dozen grand more and get that Corvette first;)

where can you find an 08 vette for $40K?????

http://www.chevrolet.com/corvette/

ORIGINAL: basketballord

ORIGINAL: Sancho805

ORIGINAL: basketballord

what would be the advantage of DOHC over the SOHC...i was under the impression that saying a DOHC was better than a SOHC was like saying a 32V is better than a 24V


i assume the same thing. more valves, more power potential.



here is what i knew i had read somewhere on this topic. a quote from the other forum:

"I think the factory heads flow pretty decently, and flow very well with a good port/valve job. Who cares how many cams are there? Sounds like ricer talk to me ;)

'I have 16 valves too!' C5-driving friend of mine to a Honda boy."

lol just thought i'd share that



lol....good point. i guess there are many variables to everything auto related.

ORIGINAL: Derf00

where can you find an 08 vette for $40K?????

http://www.chevrolet.com/corvette/


who said anything about 08? personally id love a sting ray... but they arent 40K either haha

TC on or not...dog or not. For the price difference, one would expect a whole lot more from the get-go. I'm not saying the S197 GTs are slow...they're not. But it's just that the way the S197 V6 performs, it's not as big of a difference like in previous models. Like the New Edge V6 to the New Edge GT...big difference in my experience of driving them.

ORIGINAL: Derf00

ORIGINAL: 05MustangSally

About 6 months ago, I went to the Ford dealer "thinking" of trading in my V6 for a new 2008 GT. The dealer wanted to give me $13K for my car and sell the 2008 Candy Apple Red GT Manualfor $27K. I thought it through, we wrote down numbers and did some math. I really wanted to get an idea. So...finally, we went to take it out for a test drive. I took it out on a back road which was perfect. He said at the stop sign, floor it. So I took the offer and did so. Unfortunately, the only thing that really impressed me was the V8 growl as I took off and the impressive shifting through gears compared to my T-5 manual tranny in the V6. I was REALLY disappointed. I expected to be blown away. Expecting to be immediately convinced into buying it. The dealer said "Fast huh?". I said "Yeah." That's all I had to say. Of course, we got back and I said I think I'll keep my stang until Ford releases a more impressive GT that really separates itself from the performance of the V6. I think they put the two cars to close in comparison this time. So hoping for 2010, they will blow me away :D


Sounds like you left the Traction Control 'On' IMO. it's on by default when you start the car. It kills the acceleration on the GT's. Eitherway, A brand new S197 dogs (V6 or V8). You need to drive one that's been broken in.

ORIGINAL: 05MustangSally

TC on or not...dog or not. For the price difference, one would expect a whole lot more from the get-go. I'm not saying the S197 GTs are slow...they're not. But it's just that the way the S197 V6 performs, it's not as big of a difference like in previous models. Like the New Edge V6 to the New Edge GT...big difference in my experience of driving them.



i think thats credit to the 4.0 and not a knock on the GT. the GT is a worthy V8 performer for the price compared to other V8's and some import sixers.

ORIGINAL: ptkthekid

It's the manual trans. It bakes a HUGE difference in our cars. I have a manual sixxer. I think it's plenty fast. I got a chance to drive a stock auto GT. I was not super impressed. I truly feel that with a fair amount of go fast parts and a tune, I might be able to take a stock auto GT. On the other hand, Those manual GT's are pretty quick. If they have some go fast parts and a tune, They are probably beasts. Although, you don't see a lot of GT's modding thier rides.


HAHA maybe with every single bolt on in the catalog, and if the GT has just a tune you better get some FI.

Hu. My 06 V-6 never pushed me back into my seat like my 05 GT manual. You've got to drop at around 2500 and then keep shifting at around red-line to get blown away. Under normal driving circumstances there isn't that much of a difference. The GT is really for people who want a turnkey 13 sec solution car. Forguys who like to work on their V-6 Mustang to make it faster over a period of time with mods, it's a great car. But not everyone has the tools, garage, or time on the weekend to be their own mechanic. I also take lots of road trips for vacation. I like the peace of mind that comes from having a mostly stock GT. That means that if it breaks while on vacation I can just drop it off at a Ford dealer for repair. If I had ahighly modified V-6 that mightbe more problematic.

ORIGINAL: BlueDevil

Hu. My 06 V-6 never pushed me back into my seat like my 05 GT manual. You've got to drop at around 2500 and then keep shifting at around red-line to get blown away. Under normal driving circumstances there isn't that much of a difference. The GT is really for people who want a turnkey 13 sec solution car. Forguys who like to work on their V-6 Mustang to make it faster over a period of time with mods, it's a great car. But not everyone has the tools, garage, or time on the weekend to be their own mechanic. I also take lots of road trips for vacation. I like the peace of mind that comes from having a mostly stock GT. That means that if it breaks while on vacation I can just drop it off at a Ford dealer for repair. If I had ahighly modified V-6 that mightbe more problematic.


You have no idea!!!

No idea in that I'm right? Or no idea in that I'm wrong? :)

You are RIGHT!!! Tell him what he's won johnny........

im not gonna lie..i'd drop my sixxer for a GT in a heartbeat

The V6 and GT really areTOO close when it comes to power, why do you think they gave the V6 a POS Muffler that limits airflow/HP/and MPG? B/C if they simply used the same muffler as the GT, thenthe V6 would be rated around 220-225HP, with 1-2MPG better,and not to mentionsound a heck of a lot better.So why would you want to spend the extra 8 grand for a GT? Makes you think...

Don't get me wrong, I love my V6 and have been modding the hell out of it, butI think we all are kidding ourselves if we think the GT isn'tTHAT much faster than the 6 ers. We may be able to say that our models have a lot in common with appearance and interior quality, but stockfor stock, transmissionfor transmission it blows us off the road. The POS muffler was put on the car b/c it was cheap and that along with other cheap components has provided us with an inexpensive car. sure you can add an exhaust, CAI, and tune and have the engine putting out 230-240 (flywheel), but you could do the same with the GT and get greater gains.

I would say that most of us (not all) bought the V6 because we couldn't afford the GT price tag, insurance, and gas prices. There are some though who like the more classic styling (PP grill)and don't care much about going fast.


With that being said, I am going to go take my baby for spin b/c I miss hearing her purr.

Each car has its own good qualities, the V-6 is a great all around cruzer with the top down, but if you want road kills , do it right and get the GT(500) and watch them back off real quick! Nothing like having the best of both worlds







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lucky bastard ;)

Well I just test drove a 08 GT/CS manual today. The power difference was not that noticeable to me in the day to day type driving. Yes it has more, and it seems to all reside way up in the RPMs. Driving it like I do my V6 around town was pretty much the same. It wasn't the neck snapping kind of torque you'd expect, I intentionally stabbed it just to see, it's not instant. Don't get me wrong, the car is a whole lot stronger pulling in the upper range. It was a dang sexy car too. White with the blackGT/CS stripe, charcoal interior, leather with light grey center inserts. 18" chrome bullitts. I may drift to the dark side... I did notice the clutch engages a lot sooner than my V6. It was a short learning curve trying to feel where it starts to grab. One feature of these new mustangs I dislike is the hydraulic clutch. It lacks the sensitivity or "feel" of the cable variety. With the radio loud, even on my V6, I never know when it's just starting to engage, it's not feathering friendly, at least to me. It sure sounded sweet though, better than mine with duals. Anywaythat's what is was like for me today. With an intake and a tune, I bet it would really wake it up, like it does for our V6s.

GT has the same throttle lag as the V-6. A tune takes care of that. A V-6 with an X-Charger is what you want if you want neck snapping torque at 2500 RPMs. But I like my HP between 3k and 6k. It makes it nice for my wife to drive and keeps the car mellow for around town driving. With 3:55 gears (for manual GT) first gear shoots you past 3k very quickly. So with a manual it's pretty easy to jump into the power range of a GT.

We'll see how bad the dealer wants to put me in it tomorrow. LOL!


Must resist...

Must stay in the light...

who here would keep their GT's stock? i sure as hell wouldn't. i most likely would order a CAI/Tune the very next day after buying GT. [8D] the stocker GT is tuned even more coservatively because of the extra chunk of horsies which is why so many of us, including myself, didnt feel a "huge" difference in performance between the two bone stock. there is more effort to control the GT power and make it driveable for everyone than the sixer. the sixer's primarily tuned for economy (MPG). i would LOVE to test out a custom tuned GT. i probably would get a ticket on that same test drive... lol ;)

Why is it some of you think a V6 mustang would keep up with, and is similar in power with the GT? I guess some are forgetting, the .6 Liter in difference, 20 cyls. 90HP and 80 ft. lbs, oh, and I forgot , 3 valves per cyl. not 2 valves.

I am also forgetting, how is it if a V6 can't break the low 14's bone stock, but the GT with ONLY a pinch more power, as some of you say, has run low 13's, and on average mid to high 13's. Not too bad for a slouch eh?

ORIGINAL: Grabber

Why is it some of you think a V6 mustang would keep up with, and is similar in power with the GT? I guess some are forgetting, the .6 Liter in difference, 20 cyls. 90HP and 80 ft. lbs, oh, and I forgot , 3 valves per cyl. not 2 valves.

I am also forgetting, how is it if a V6 can't break the low 14's bone stock, but the GT with ONLY a pinch more power, as some of you say, has run low 13's, and on average mid to high 13's. Not too bad for a slouch eh?



Ionly gave myopinionof MY car compared to the stock GT I test drove. I thought I was pretty clear on the power difference and where it was at. If Isupercharge my motor, it will keep up with and be similar in power to the STOCK GT.

I don't get all this talk about the GT not outperforming the V6s as much as the previous generation...

2004 Mustang V6 : 193 HP, 225 ft-lbs, 3114 lbs
2004 Mustang GT : 260 HP, 302 ft-lbs, 3273 lbs
Difference : 67 HP, 77 ft-lbs, 159 lbs

2005 Mustang V6 : 210 HP, 240 ft-lbs, 3351
2005 Mustang GT : 300 HP, 320 ft-lbs, 3483
Difference : 90 HP, 80ft-lbs 132 lbs

There is a greater difference in horsepower and torque, and the difference in weight is less withthe 05s. Granted, there are other factors involved, but is it possible that wishful thinking is maybe effecting the butt dyno??? If I am missing something, please let me know, I am honestly just trying to raise the question. Is there a huge difference in the power curves?

And quite a few guys are putting down around 265 HP on the dyno stock, which would equate to about 310 at the flywheel, so the V8 is somewhat underrated at 300 HP.Is theV6 also slightly underrated??

The thing that sticks out to me is this...

2004 Mustang GT : 260 HP, 302 ft-lbs, 3273 lbs

2005 Mustang V6 : 210 HP, 240 ft-lbs, 3351

Everyone want's to compare the '05 and up V6 to the previous generation V8 and say it's close. It's not! I own and both and can tell you the older GT's are still much faster.

ORIGINAL: Grabber

Why is it some of you think a V6 mustang would keep up with, and is similar in power with the GT? I guess some are forgetting, the .6 Liter in difference, 20 cyls. 90HP and 80 ft. lbs, oh, and I forgot , 3 valves per cyl. not 2 valves.

I am also forgetting, how is it if a V6 can't break the low 14's bone stock, but the GT with ONLY a pinch more power, as some of you say, has run low 13's, and on average mid to high 13's. Not too bad for a slouch eh?



Wait didn't someone here...i think.....with his 6 he ran like a 13.8 na. That's pretty damn good for an na 6, don't you think?;)

I think some people are getting misled here. Myself, as well as others I'm sure, are not saying the GT is slow OR that the V6 is on the same level. What I was simply comparing was a stock S197 GT to my S197 V6 (when it was stock). The HP is different, the exterior upgrades are different, the sound is different, the handling is different...and much more, the price is different. Significantly (if you're talking about buying brand new GT). When I bought my Mustang, a V6 was not on my acceptance list. I told myself I'd search and search until I found an used GT for the right price. I honestly couldn't afford anything more than $20K at that time (April 06). But unfortunately, the S197 was still new and fresh and expensive, used or not. I found my 2005 Mineral Gray V6 used, loaded, clean and in my price range. I thought "why not...at least test drive it". I had driven a New Edge V6 and was not impressed to even pay $13K before this. The new 4.0 just blew me away for what it was and cost. SoI gave in. I didn't want to to wait, I waited since 2003 for a new Mustang and here was my chance. Especially with only owning a '96 Saturn and a '04 Sentra since I got my license. [:'(] Not a GT but it would do and I've had fun with it. Now...many guys are right...I would have a GT right now if my finances allowed it. I know a lot of folks say a Mustang isn't a Mustang if it's not a V8...but I recall them releasing a V6 Mustang in it's early years of production, and there was no hate. So back to what I was saying... I'm not saying the GT is slow, or comparable to the V6. People just don't understand that when they say "It's more expensive, but you shoulda got a GT". At the time, a GT was $5K or more than what I paid. Another $100 monthly payment, plus about $50 in gas and $50 in insurance, it wasn't available to me. And the 90 HP more wasn't enough for me to splurge on. When I can afford it, I will own a GT. But some folks just prefer to respect their finances, alot of us pay for school full time and work full time and are completely independent or have a family or kids to support. We are lucky enough that Ford designed a fun and affordable "version" of an AWESOME car we all can enjoy :D

Sorry for the longstory guys;)

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ORIGINAL: Grabber

Why is it some of you think a V6 mustang would keep up with, and is similar in power with the GT?Â* I guess some are forgetting, the .6 Liter in difference, 20 cyls.Â* 90HP and 80 ft. lbs, oh, and I forgot , 3 valves per cyl. not 2 valves.

I am also forgetting, how is it if a V6 can't break the low 14's bone stock, but the GT with ONLY a pinch more power, as some of you say, has run low 13's, and on average mid to high 13's.Â* Not too bad for a slouch eh?



Wait didn't someone here...i think.....with his 6 he ran like a 13.8 na.Â* That's pretty damn good for an na 6, don't you think?;)



Hey congratulations dude on getting that C6. I had no idea you finally sold your mamba. You car looks damn nice.

Mamba- N/A is one thing, I did mean bone stock. I understand some are not saying that the V6 compares to the GT, but some seem to think the biggest and most important difference is price. Now, just to clarify.

Insurance- State Farm, $110 w/ 250 deductibles. So, how is insurance so much more, if you are a good driver, and have so so credit?

Also, for a 550HP car, with every ooption and my 20's with me adding up to about 3700 lbs I average 17 MPG, that's all on the streets. Gas is not much of a difference.

Point being, even the New Edge GT's, Pre 2005, are just as fast as the base V6 S197. Sure, it is a stout car. But everything about the S197 GT is improved, tuned better, and better quality. Yes, for those that "can't" afford a GT, that is definitely a car to get.

Also, you can toss a S/C on a V6, you'll end up running high 12's, therefore a bolt-on S197 GT will still be faster. So, it is not the greatest investment to mod the V6 S197.

I'm not trying to be an ass, but everywhere I go, every GT owner thinks their GT is just raw, and every V6 owner always wants to race, and talk crap about, how a GT is SOOOOOOO overrated for the price.

Hey Grabber,
Just so you can't say all V6 owners are against you, I think that the GT is a great value for the car. But lets not kid ourselves. There isNO investment potential for modding our stangs.Eventually, if we want to sell, we will likely sell our car for less than a stock model because most of the consumers will be scared to death that we beat the snot out of our cars. Not too mention repairs (possibly not covered by warranty) along the way because we want to play. It's not like we are buying real estate here.

Basically we are all modding because going from 200-400 HP or 300-600 horsepower is freaking awesome. Now if you had a plan and want to run 10's at the track then go buy a GT and then go crazy. As long as you havea plan. I think people are crazy to think that the base v6 is not that much different than the GT or they just are not pushing the pedal to the floor. At the same time I don't get GT owners who look down upon V6 stangs that are heavily modded b/c they say it's just not worth the money. We do it for the same reason you do.

I agree 100%. Those GT owners that look down on sixxers(Even though I did at one point) Are a-holes. The V6 can be made faster then the GT, with a couple grand or so. So, no biggy.

ORIGINAL: blackstang14

Hey Grabber,
Just so you can't say all V6 owners are against you, I think that the GT is a great value for the car. But lets not kid ourselves. There isNO investment potential for modding our stangs.Eventually, if we want to sell, we will likely sell our car for less than a stock model because most of the consumers will be scared to death that we beat the snot out of our cars. Not too mention repairs (possibly not covered by warranty) along the way because we want to play. It's not like we are buying real estate here.

Basically we are all modding because going from 200-400 HP or 300-600 horsepower is freaking awesome. Now if you had a plan and want to run 10's at the track then go buy a GT and then go crazy. As long as you havea plan. I think people are crazy to think that the base v6 is not that much different than the GT or they just are not pushing the pedal to the floor. At the same time I don't get GT owners who look down upon V6 stangs that are heavily modded b/c they say it's just not worth the money. We do it for the same reason you do.


That is why I sold mine when I did. I didn't see the point in investing more money into a base model car that I was probably going to sell anyway. I got 23 for my car which was probably the most I could get out of it anyway. But if I were to wait longer the value would just go down and down so I had no better option but to sell. Yeah i spent alot of money on it but I just see it as having my fun and now gotta be more serious and realistic on what a car can do.

ORIGINAL: Black Mamba GTT

.....and now gotta be more serious and realistic on what a car can do.



my car realistically pulls some serious chicks....[8D] ;)

haha then I need to come to your part of town!!!

This weekend I had a chance to follow someone (he knew the way) with a new CS-8 turn-1 (Shelbyfied GT - suspension, brakes, etc, without the supercharger). It was an interesting contrast. His car (which I believe was an automatic) seemed smoother in acceleration. Mine with the T-5 is zoom,shift, zoom,shift with the T-5 and supercharger requiring a lot of shifting due to real fast rpm spool-up. My car was faster but the CS-8/GT was no slouch by any means.

ORIGINAL: Boulevardvette

ORIGINAL: ptkthekid

It's the manual trans. It bakes a HUGE difference in our cars. I have a manual sixxer. I think it's plenty fast. I got a chance to drive a stock auto GT. I was not super impressed. I truly feel that with a fair amount of go fast parts and a tune, I might be able to take a stock auto GT. On the other hand, Those manual GT's are pretty quick. If they have some go fast parts and a tune, They are probably beasts. Although, you don't see a lot of GT's modding thier rides.


HAHA maybe with every single bolt on in the catalog, and if the GT has just a tune you better get some FI.


Whats up with all the hate? You could give your opinion without bashin on me! Just for your information, my neighbors friend has a stock auto GT. I have driven it several times. I'm not super impressed with it. He has driven my manual sixxer several times. He has commented several times about how suprisingly fast it is. Can he beat me, OF COURSE HE CAN! But I still say if I had some go fast parts and a tune I might be able to take him. It's my opinion. One based on driving both cars many times. Ohhhhh, but here comes big bad GT man. Lowering himselt to come down here and bash on the lowly sixxers. Ohhhh, big man. It's jerks like you that give GT owners a bad name. Don't you have a forum of your own. Take your big "93 tune" and go elsewhere and leave us sixxers to enjoy our wonderful cars in peace.

For a noob you are pretty ballsy. The point was, some of the sixxer owner's are claiming their V6 is only a pinch of a difference in performance. We are not bashing the V6. We all know without the V6, there really wouldn't be a mustang. I'll say it again, your average "non impressive AUTO GT' runs high 13's. A Bolt on Sixxer barely runs that, even with a great driver. So, tell me what I am missing, and please point out how we are "bashing" the V6.

^sorry, that HAHA crack just rubbed me the wrong way

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^ The "HAHA maybe with every single bolt on" crack that boulevardvette made in his original post. I thought it was kind of harsh

Oh, got it. ;)

i can't imagine me owning a GT and not having at least a CAI/Tune. there are so many comparisons between a modded V6 vs. bone stock GT but how many of us would keep our GT's bone stock? i will admit though, its sure fun as heck to have the underdog car and outperform expectations;).

ORIGINAL: ptkthekid

ORIGINAL: Boulevardvette

ORIGINAL: ptkthekid

It's the manual trans. It bakes a HUGE difference in our cars. I have a manual sixxer. I think it's plenty fast. I got a chance to drive a stock auto GT. I was not super impressed. I truly feel that with a fair amount of go fast parts and a tune, I might be able to take a stock auto GT. On the other hand, Those manual GT's are pretty quick. If they have some go fast parts and a tune, They are probably beasts. Although, you don't see a lot of GT's modding thier rides.


HAHA maybe with every single bolt on in the catalog, and if the GT has just a tune you better get some FI.


Whats up with all the hate? You could give your opinion without bashin on me! Just for your information, my neighbors friend has a stock auto GT. I have driven it several times. I'm not super impressed with it. He has driven my manual sixxer several times. He has commented several times about how suprisingly fast it is. Can he beat me, OF COURSE HE CAN! But I still say if I had some go fast parts and a tune I might be able to take him. It's my opinion. One based on driving both cars many times. Ohhhhh, but here comes big bad GT man. Lowering himselt to come down here and bash on the lowly sixxers. Ohhhh, big man. It's jerks like you that give GT owners a bad name. Don't you have a forum of your own. Take your big "93 tune" and go elsewhere and leave us sixxers to enjoy our wonderful cars in peace.


Indeed ballsy....actually, yes he does have a forum..your on it. I am definately one to admire someone else's car....few weeks ago, a sixer pulled next to me at a stop light...AWESOME car...sounded a lil ricey, but awesome none the less. Its all in perception i believe. I think v6'ers are just as cocky as the "big bad v8 guys".

ORIGINAL: Vegasfilter

....I think v6'ers are just as cocky as the "big bad v8 guys".



i'm not cocky, just arrogant.....lol ;).

Hold on, let me go get some popcorn! :D

Same difference. I'm a realist.:D

ORIGINAL: Grabber

Same difference. I'm a realist.:D


yes, i know. i'm a jokester. [8D]

And I'm COOKIE MONSTER!! [&:] NOM NOM NOM NOM!!!

Sorry just a really long day at work.[&o]

ORIGINAL: Vegasfilter

ORIGINAL: ptkthekid

ORIGINAL: Boulevardvette

ORIGINAL: ptkthekid

It's the manual trans. It bakes a HUGE difference in our cars. I have a manual sixxer. I think it's plenty fast. I got a chance to drive a stock auto GT. I was not super impressed. I truly feel that with a fair amount of go fast parts and a tune, I might be able to take a stock auto GT. On the other hand, Those manual GT's are pretty quick. If they have some go fast parts and a tune, They are probably beasts. Although, you don't see a lot of GT's modding thier rides.


HAHA maybe with every single bolt on in the catalog, and if the GT has just a tune you better get some FI.


Whats up with all the hate? You could give your opinion without bashin on me! Just for your information, my neighbors friend has a stock auto GT. I have driven it several times. I'm not super impressed with it. He has driven my manual sixxer several times. He has commented several times about how suprisingly fast it is. Can he beat me, OF COURSE HE CAN! But I still say if I had some go fast parts and a tune I might be able to take him. It's my opinion. One based on driving both cars many times. Ohhhhh, but here comes big bad GT man. Lowering himselt to come down here and bash on the lowly sixxers. Ohhhh, big man. It's jerks like you that give GT owners a bad name. Don't you have a forum of your own. Take your big "93 tune" and go elsewhere and leave us sixxers to enjoy our wonderful cars in peace.


Indeed ballsy....actually, yes he does have a forum..your on it. I am definately one to admire someone else's car....few weeks ago, a sixer pulled next to me at a stop light...AWESOME car...sounded a lil ricey, but awesome none the less. Its all in perception i believe. I think v6'ers are just as cocky as the "big bad v8 guys".


Oh crap, I know I'm gonna get so much grief for this.... What is it with you GT guys comming over to the V6 forum and flaming out on us? I don't go over to the V8 forum and talk s**t to you. I just gave a simple opinion based on my experience. I wasn't trying to put down GT's. I was just doing a little "bench racing" and boulevardvette totally bashed me. Since then all I am getting is total grief from the V8 crowd. I didn't mean any harm. I even apologized. I didn't see boulevardvette apologize for starting this whole thing by TOTALLY taking a shot at me. I mean really, you don't think he was being a little harsh. Ok, I'm sorry, I'm done, I really didn't mean to start anything.

I think some of these GT wanna be corvette fan boys have a serious issue with "little man" syndrome.

:(........jp I will always be apart of the 4.0 forums and I don't hate.[&:]

I think there is a BIG difference in the price and not that big of a difference in performance. I think that is the heart of the issue here, and the only point that I, or any other V6 owner would say. I paid $18k for my car, brand new. The GT/CS I test drove, was $31k. That's $13k difference. I can assure you that car did NOT perform $13k better than mine. Sure, it had nice bumpers on it, and leather seats, and shiney chrome wheels. The Skipper 500, the TCS/ABS, the cute heated seats do not command the difference either.For me it wasthe VALUE of what I did get.I may have been shorted 90hp, but I'm smiling every time I make a payment. And I've put $2k into mods. And I'm still way under that. Put on a supercharger, and make as much or more hp than a stock GT, and I'm still under the cost to drive a bone stock car. I had to do a lot of soul searching last weekend and throughout the week. I can afford the GT, but is it WORTH it. I had to come to the realization, that it was not. Car payment would double, insurance was an extra $25 a month, and the milage is less with a GT. With gas prices rising everyday, that adds up too. I've been averaging 27 mpg lately just driving to work and errands. That's with my mods. As much as I would love to have that GT/CS, it's not the "smart" thing to do.

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So, let me get this straight...You are comparing the base model V6(which I find it hard to believe you got yours for 18K) with the pony package from the looks of it, to a special edition GT? You do know the base on GT's with Leather and the Shaker 500 is about 26,500 right? So, figure this. You have a very high 14 sec car as it sits right. Not to mention a 2V, not a 3V. Then, you have the smaller and weaker rear end, a different tune then the GT, different heads, block, etc. Soooooo, with about 4K in mods, you will be a mid-high 13 sec car right? Now, you are about as fast as a Stock GT, am I right? Now, here is where it gets interesting, at that point, just an intake will put the GT ahead of you with an equal/good driver. Now it gets even more interesting, once you get to about 400 whp, your call will start to give. If I remember correctly, Fazm has a Turbo V6, and has replaced the tranny how many times? Along with rebuilding/replacing the rear end a few times as well? Hmm, that does not seem worth it to me...

Another example....No offense either. The female GO owner, that has a TT, how much do you think that ran her? About 7K or more? At LEAST!!! So, when it comes down to it, with all the appearance mods and everything, a bolt on GT would keep up if not beat her. I am sure Grabber Girl is running on a very conservative tune, but, after that 400-425 whp mark, you will see why it is better to get the GT.

Point being, it is all personal preference. People think the GT is so much more expensive, the insurance is crazy expensive, and the gas mileage as well. I've said it before, I'll say it again.

My GT = 550HP, approx. and I only use the streets to drive, yet I average over 17 MPG, and I drive an auto with 20X10.5 inch rims. Hmmmm. How is that so much worse? Stock GT owners seem to average 20-21 on the streets, and about 25-26 on the hgihway. That is a lame excuse in my opinion. ;)

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Gotta love these kind of threads.

lol, ;)

This is just my opinion, but like you said, it really all is preference. So I hope you don't get offended Grabber.

But I like your math. Let's get this straight - a brand new base GT is about 26, 500 and a brand new base V6 is about 19,500, correct? That equals to a 7k gap in between. With the obvious differences in engine, rear end, and handling.

-With that 7k, a base V6 owner can supercharge for approx. 4K, upgrade the rear for 900, convert to a dual system for 400, and a couple of sway bars for that fabulous handling package for less than 200. That totals up to 5500, leaving 1500 to play with. Turning it into a 13 sec. car that can walk a stock GT.

-Now as you mention, a stock GT can average to about 20-21 street. And as a V6 owner myself, I average about 23-24 mpg street. That's only a 3 mpg difference - it doesn't sound much, but since our cars hold 16 gallons, I would get 48 more miles out of a full tank than a GT owner. With how gas prices are today - it actually does add up.

-I have a co-worker, or more like a friend, that drives an '06 GT, and he only pays $19 more per month than I do for insurance. Again that may not sound like much per month but it does when I'll be saving approx. $230 a year - and I also didn't mention that I'm only 24 and he's 27.

Don't misinterpret me, because I'm not bashing on GT's whatsover because there are some things money can't buy like the true sound of V8 and the feel of it's rumble. But I'm in the same ship as themac5150, in terms of 'our' preference. I could have gone with the GT, but my choice was to go with the V6 for my personal prefernce.




And I'd like throw this in just for sh*ts and giggles - with that extra $1500, and maybe a $700+ more for some new heads+cams, that V6 can turn into this: http://www.supersixmotorsports.com/pdf/40SOHCdynotest1.pdf

(Check out the first dyno sheet)

Why do GT owners feel the need to chime in on every single one of these topics? Seriously...who cares.

Oh and to add salt into the wound, who the hell buys an auto GT and than mocks V6 drivers?

The irony is amazing.

ORIGINAL: Mr. L

This is just my opinion, but like you said, it really all is preference. So I hope you don't get offended Grabber.

But I like your math. Let's get this straight - a brand new base GT is about 26, 500 and a brand new base V6 is about 19,500, correct? That equals to a 7k gap in between. With the obvious differences in engine, rear end, and handling.

-With that 7k, a base V6 owner can supercharge for approx. 4K, upgrade the rear for 900, convert to a dual system for 400, and a couple of sway bars for that fabulous handling package for less than 200. That totals up to 5500, leaving 1500 to play with. Turning it into a 13 sec. car that can walk a stock GT.

-Now as you mention, a stock GT can average to about 20-21 street. And as a V6 owner myself, I average about 23-24 mpg street. That's only a 3 mpg difference - it doesn't sound much, but since our cars hold 16 gallons, I would get 48 more miles out of a full tank than a GT owner. With how gas prices are today - it actually does add up.

-I have a co-worker, or more like a friend, that drives an '06 GT, and he only pays $19 more per month than I do for insurance. Again that may not sound like much per month but it does when I'll be saving approx. $230 a year - and I also didn't mention that I'm only 24 and he's 27.

Don't misinterpret me, because I'm not bashing on GT's whatsover because there are some things money can't buy like the true sound of V8 and the feel of it's rumble. But I'm in the same ship as themac5150, in terms of 'our' preference. I could have gone with the GT, but my choice was to go with the V6 for my personal prefernce.




And I'd like throw this in just for sh*ts and giggles - with that extra $1500, and maybe a $700+ more for some new heads+cams, that V6 can turn into this: http://www.supersixmotorsports.com/pdf/40SOHCdynotest1.pdf (http://www.supersixmotorsports.com/pdf/40SOHCdynotest1.pdf)

(Check out the first dyno sheet)



Ok well for one, you cannot normally get any supercharger for the 4.0 under 5000 unless you are buying a used one or an X. And even then you have tuning and maintenence and installation. It will also VOID your warrenty which in my expierence supercharging my 6 is not a good thing too do at all!!!! When I did all the stuff you mentioned (cause yeah i actually did it and Im not just saying Im going to) it cost me above and beyond 7k with all the other stuff that had to be done to it.

2nd!! Believe it or not you will get worse gas milage with a supercharged 6 than an 8. I can't tell you exactly what gas milage i got but it wasn't that great at all!!

O and with that extra 1500 (that is really non existant) you would have to build up the transmission, beef up the rear end, get a aluminum DS, and the list goes on and on. Not to mention the hours of tuning they will have to do on top of that, if you wanted to go the supersixmotorsports way!!!

Don't get me wrong, totally tricking out my 6 was fun but it came at a price that in the end I couldn't justify....maybe you can but I couldn't. But again you can't compare a base model GT to a blown 6. And even then you put a CAI/Tune and maybe an underdrive pulley and a GT will beat a 6 that is using 10psi on a Vortech!!!!

this is exactly why i plan to stay N/A with my sixer. no need to push it beyond its natural limits. once i get my recently aquired GT sways installed and save up for that alum DS, i should be pretty solid and pleased. headers are also a possibility.;)

I understand where you're coming from BlackMamba, but I'm only comparing apples to apples (base V6 to base GT), and I was also inputing the potential a V6 can have with the price difference.

Yes, you're pretty known around here before you traded in for your C6, which is b-e-a-u-t-i-f-u-l btw. But I never mentioned anything about suping a 6er up from the get go to void the warranty. And yes you can purchase an X-Charger for under 4k and install it yourself with a custom tune. And yes you can swap out the 7.5 rear for an 8.8 rear yourself. And yes, you can install an aluminum DS yourself - which all in turn does save money (if you have the tools, patience and time;))

And as far as gas mileage, it really depends on the drivers habits, so I can understand that you didn't have great gas mileage because why wouldn't you have a heavy foot after suping up like you did? I also see how you went over 7k, because exterior mods do add up also.

I paid $18,035 June 14 last year, for my 2007. Yes that was after my little $1500 rebate. Same rebates arehappening in my arearight now, but after the negative equity for a trade, the GT/SC would still be $31k+. Loaded GTs were $29-32k when I was shopping. If a cali special is "special", so is a PP, they're both appearance packages,but a PP mine is not. My car was a base that I added the PP grill and emblems, and other upgrades, 'cause I liked them. This is the samelocation that adds $10k markup to the Bullitt, $20k to the GT500.It's my money to spend. They have a Grabber Orange V6 Auto PP on the lot for $26,115 MSRP!!

ORIGINAL: themac5150

I paid $18,035 June 14 last year, for my 2007. Yes that was after my little $1500 rebate. Same rebates arehappening in my arearight now, but after the negative equity for a trade, the GT/SC would still be $31k+. Loaded GTs were $29-32k when I was shopping. If a cali special is "special", so is a PP, they're both appearance packages,but a PP mine is not. My car was a base that I added the PP grill and emblems, and other upgrades, 'cause I liked them. This is the samelocation that adds $10k markup to the Bullitt, $20k to the GT500.It's my money to spend. They have a Grabber Orange V6 Auto PP on the lot for $26,115 MSRP!!


Say WHAT!!!!

Hmm, Auto GT, I like that. The kind that beats the Supercharged manuals. You know what they say, a person cannot shift faster then an auto, especially one that is tuned. Smart-a$$


I did some looking, cheapest X-charged system is 3900 bucks, not including tax and shipping. Sway bars vary, for 200-300 bucks. Rear end varies from 900-1100. Now, we all know using the canned tune is garbage, so, you will need to spend an average of 350-500 on the tune. Now, most people cannot just install a supercharger even with the right tools. So, that is not "fair" if that is the word. So, you are looking closer to 10K, to run low 13's high 12's. A Tuned GT with just gears (referring to Gene K here) will run 12's.

GT Owners chime in to give some info from a different point of view. So, if you say Why do GT owners have to chime in, then why the hell is there always an owner of a sixxer chiming in in the 4.6 discussion threads? HMMMMMMMMMMMM???????

If you have a problem with an auto, let's get a manual GT with the exact same mods and tune, that can drive, with the same tires, and allow him to powershift. He will be at the least a tenth or two behind. Remember, no need for a clutch, just driving.

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Sure it's loaded, but who'd touch it if GTs were so accessible.

Wow kind of a rip off don't you think. That is like the most exspensive 6 i have seen!!

They have a dark candy apple red PP for $25,380, and a vista blue vert for $28,925.

Wow. They're really trying to rape the consumer - btw, I'm curious to know how much a loaded GT is over there?

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It's also the colors. Grabber Orange is the least produced Color in 2007, and still in 2008. The second is between Redfire and Vista Blue.

I heard '08 is it for Grabber Orange. It's a 2 year run and it's done. Kind of like that light/pale green color was.

Yup. Lime Green. They only made, god, I know in the hundreds. I'll get the info.

My neighbor, this older cool chick has a sixxer vert in lime green. They look good. It's different, just like our Grabber's.

Don't forget people who live in apartments. You'd have to throw in the cost of a house (with a garage) so you would have a place to mod your V-6 and store your tools and your floor jack! LOL

ORIGINAL: BlueDevil

Don't forget people who live in apartments. You'd have to throw in the cost of a house (with a garage) so you would have a place to mod your V-6 and store your tools and your floor jack! LOL




lol, good point.

If I had to guess, I would say most GT owners could care less about the price or performance difference between a V6 and a GT. I don't think any amount of mathwould have ever led many of the GT owners on this board to consider a V6. When I went to buy mine, the price difference wasn't an issue at all. Neither was the (greatly) exaggerated difference in gas mileage. Or the difference in insurance rates (if you have a crappy driving record and high insurance rates, maybe you shouldn't be driving a GT anyway). And the fact that a V6 owner might potentially be able to make his car faster for less than the cost of mine means ABSOLUTELY nothing to me.

I have never been one to talk down to V6s or say that a V6 isn't a real Mustang (that is absolutely ridiculous). The V6 is a great car (fastest car for under 20K?!), it just isn't for me. It just wouldn't be the same for me. And no amount of number crunching would have ever convinced me otherwise.

And the fact that all you V6 owners are just as happy with your rides is fantastic. It means we're all happy. What could be better than that???

Hmmm.........Jessica Alba? Yeah I believe that's better;)

Stock for stock, the GT will beat us by 40 feet in the Qtr. "Suck'n Gas & Haul'n Ass"

Where in the hell do you get 40ft? Are you being serious, or being sarcastic??!?!?!?:eek: