RE: got asked to leave the mall today
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RE: got asked to leave the mall today - 5/5/2008 11:41:43 PM
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67mustang302
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I can understand why though, when you consider that a lot of people would see a gun, and regardless of the fact it's on Joe citizen who's acting normal and in a holster, they'd freak. It can lead to numerous people calling the police, or worse, someone shouting "OMG he has a gun" and everyone runs and people get trampled etc. If you're not a uniformed gaurd/cop whatever and you're legally carrying, it's always better to be sublte about it and conceal. Around here that means belly packs, which leads to the saying "There's only 2 kinds of people in Kern County, California that wear belly packs. Queers and people that carry guns."
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RE: got asked to leave the mall today - 5/6/2008 1:33:55 AM
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Orion_240
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I'm wondering why the need to openly carry a firearm.
Couldn't get a license for concealed carry?
Is the girlfriend imaginary? Or did you just give your weapon a girl's name?
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RE: got asked to leave the mall today - 5/6/2008 1:47:12 AM
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2GKT5
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legal or not, I don't see what good can come out of carrying a "concealed" weapon in a populated area. Trying to impress the redneck ladies, are we?
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RE: got asked to leave the mall today - 5/6/2008 2:00:57 AM
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legal or not, I don't see what good can come out of carrying a "concealed" weapon in a populated area. Trying to impress the redneck ladies, are we?
When some nut randomly starts shooting everyone up in a public place and points the gun at you and I take him out before he pulls the trigger you thank me.
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RE: got asked to leave the mall today - 5/6/2008 2:14:19 AM
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klfutrelle
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it would only be illegal past the door of those entrances
Read this
Places off limits to carry There are 5 laws that address where firearms may be borne (carried) Deadly Weapons at Public Gatherings; It is (misdemeanor offense) against the law for a person (licensed or not) to carry to or while at a public gathering any explosive compound, firearm, or knife designed for the purpose of offense or defense (including ANY deadly weapon not listed here). A public gathering is defined and includes, but is not limited too, athletic or sporting events, churches or church functions, political rallies and/or functions, publicly owned or operated buildings(Fed, state, or local government buildings), and establishments at which alcoholic beverages are sold for consumption on the premises(bars and restaurants that serve alcohol. Does not apply to stores that just sell alcohol). Nothing in this code section shall otherwise prohibit the carrying of a firearm in any other public place by a person licensed or permitted to do so. (This means licensees are permitted to carry in stores, malls, financial institutions, and other places open to the public) Five areas are specifically defined as public gatherings, but since the definition of a public gathering is not limited to the five areas what else could be considered a public gathering? Attorney general Mike Bowers issued an opinion that addresses this very issue. In his definition a public gathering is "a place in which the public gathers or will gather for an particular event or function and does not apply to a place (such as a shopping mall, Walmart, grocery store, McDonlands), where people may gather even in large numbers when there is no event or function". So basically a public gathering in addition to the 5 defined areas is an event or function that the general public gathers or will gather for. This may be a parade, music event, free contests, presentation speakers, or any other publicized event that the general public can gather for. Remember however if a public place that is not off limits by the definition of this code section CAN still be defined as a public gathering IF any of the activities defined above are taking place on the premises. i.e. a mall that is hosting a public speaker or a music concert or portions of the mall that serves alcoholic beverages or portions leased to a government agency. Also keep in mind that this prohibition also applies to the grounds that are on or in close proximity of the "public gathering". i.e. the parking lot of a bar, stadium, church, or the common area of the premises that is hosting a "public gathering". It is an defense to violation of this code section if a person notifies any law enforcement officer or security guard employed to provide security for the public gathering, if you are in possession of a deadly weapon while at a public gathering as soon as you learn of it's presence and you surrender or secure such weapon as directed by the law enforcement officer or security guard providing security for the public gathering. (This does not mean you can carry to a public gathering, this section means that if you are carrying to a public gathering and you realize that you accidentally brought your weapon, then you can come forward to a LEO or security guard and surrender your weapon without risking arrest. This code section is clearly criminal in nature and the burden is on the state to show intent to violate this code section) This law shall not apply to competitors participating in a sport shooting or gun event, law enforcement officers, district attorneys, judges, magistrates, solicitors, ect. (16-11-127, Carroll co. probate court, AG opinion U96-22) Weapons on school property and functions; It is (felony offense) unlawful for a person to carry ANY type of weapon onto or within 1,000 feet of real property owned or leased by any public or private elementary school, secondary school, or school board and used for elementary or secondary education and in, on, or within 1,000 feet of the campus of any public or private technical school, vocational school, college, university, or institution of post secondary education. This code section does not apply to persons who are licensed under code 16-11-129 (Georgia Firearm License) or in accordance with code 43-38-10 (special carry licenses for security guards) when such person carries or picks up a student at a school building, school function, or school property or on a bus or other transportation furnished by the school. (I'm not sure of the total legality actually carrying into school building while picking up or dropping off a student, but it appears to be completely legal since the code does not say anything about not being allowed to enter the building while carrying. I wouldn't loiter around in the halls or cafeteria, but instead make a straight bee line to the office and back in order to drop off or pick up a student if you are required to do so.) This code section shall also not apply to a weapon which is in a locked compartment of a motor vehicle or one which is in a locked container in or a locked firearms rack which is on a motor vehicle which is being used by an adult over 21 years of age to bring to or pick up a student at a school building, school function, or school property or on a bus or other transportation furnished by the school, or when such vehicle is used to transport someone to an activity being conducted on school property which has been authorized by a duly authorized official of the school; provided, however, that this exception shall not apply to a student attending such school; and shall not prohibit any person who resides or works in a business or is in the ordinary course transacting lawful business or any person who is a visitor of such resident located within a school safety zone from carrying, possessing, or having under such person's control a weapon within a school safety zone(this code section does not apply to anyone carrying or transporting a weapon through the zone, or while conducting business while in the zone, or while visiting someone who resides in the zone. Be advised however if you step onto actual school property (while not picking up or dropping off a student), the building or land the building is situated on, then you are in violation even if you have a license. Be careful!) however, it shall be unlawful for any such person to carry, possess, or have under such person's control while at a school building or school function or on school property, a school bus, or other transportation furnished by the school any weapon or explosive compound.(16-11-127.1) Deadly Weapons on the premises of a nuclear power facility; It is (misdemeanor offense) against the law for a person (licensed or not) to carry, possess, or have under such person's control while on the premises of a nuclear power facility a firearm or weapon. (There are some execptions, but they all have to do with official duties or training.) ([link=http://www.georgiapacking.org/GaCode/?title=
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RE: got asked to leave the mall today - 5/6/2008 2:42:55 AM
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67mustang302
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There are a LOT of instances all across the country every year of citizens with CCW's using their firearm in defense of themselves or others, and in the vast majority of those cases, the mere presence of their firearm was enough to defuse the situation, rarely does shooting ensue. Most criminals that have a gun drawn on them back down VERY quickly. The reason you almost never hear about it is because the media is primarily anti-gun and doesn't report on these instances, and if they do they're on page 19 of the least read section. The prime example of citizens with firearms helping to prevent crime is this....when was the last time you heard of someone robbing a gun show?
To a lesser degree it's true of where I live. Around here violent criminals know that if a gun is drawn on them, to stop. The ones that run usually get shot in the back.
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RE: got asked to leave the mall today - 5/6/2008 6:06:56 AM
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pascal
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That's what happened in Texas when that old dude shot those illegals dead, that just robbed his neighbor's house.
He was on a 9.1.1 call too lol.
He asked the douches to stop right there, they didn't, he shot them while trying to flee.
He sent them to their Celestial dirt nap . Love it. It's like: Next!
I bet it's a quiet neighborood now .
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RE: got asked to leave the mall today - 5/6/2008 6:52:39 AM
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MK2_GT
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ORIGINAL: 2GKT5
legal or not, I don't see what good can come out of carrying a "concealed" weapon in a populated area. Trying to impress the redneck ladies, are we?
Because 2 million crimes a year are stopped by gun totting citizens (the simplese google searches will verify this) and there are ZERO accidental deaths resulting from a person carrying a conealed weapon in a populated area
2 million Vs ZERO is actually fairly compelling statistics.
This is why ,no matter how much the media refuses to report anytime a citizen stops a crime , or how many law makers try to ban guns, or how many people scratch their heads wondering why guns are not banned, guns will not be banned and our right to be armed will stand. Once you educate yourself and actually look at all the analysis and studies, the entire argument falls apart completely.
< Message edited by MK2_GT -- 5/6/2008 6:55:15 AM >
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RE: got asked to leave the mall today - 5/6/2008 7:03:28 AM
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okbfd
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Here in Okla. we have to carry concealed. Open carry isn't legal. Yeppers......during the summer I'm one of those with a belly pack or carry my Keltech .380 which is flat enough that it doesn't print in a pocket.
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RE: got asked to leave the mall today - 5/6/2008 7:40:49 AM
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drhoward
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damn thats scary, This is why i don't visit the US very often
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the 2 guys would have to be related or I wouldn''t swallow their semen.
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RE: got asked to leave the mall today - 5/6/2008 7:54:36 AM
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okbfd
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damn thats scary, This is why i don't visit the US very often
You mean all of us mentally stable not violent concealed carry folks don't make you feel
more safe????? 
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RE: got asked to leave the mall today - 5/6/2008 8:03:42 AM
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drhoward
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ya something like that
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the 2 guys would have to be related or I wouldn''t swallow their semen.
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RE: got asked to leave the mall today - 5/6/2008 11:31:11 AM
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2GKT5
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let me clarify my post. if you want to carry a concealed weapon, be my guest. Why must you openly show it to the point where the general public can see it. What good can come out of it? Its called a concealed weapon for a reason.
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