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RE: 1993 - 2000 - 5/4/2008 10:20:23 PM
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mustangcat
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He also reduced the national unemployment rate to it's lowest point in 35 years.
I liked Bill...I don't like his psycho wife, but I like him.
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RE: 1993 - 2000 - 5/4/2008 10:30:11 PM
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Burnsy
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how bout when he let us get attacked over and over and over... and did nothing about it. embassies, U.S.S. Cole, Somalia, etc.
or about how he sat there and ****ted about the meaning of the word genocide and whether Rwanda was one, while we were not deeply involved in any conflict
or how more soldiers died in active duty during his tenure than G. W's even though there was no war under clinton.???....
or how the economy bubble that he came into from Reagan and Bush burst because he did nothing while in office, hence the tech stock/dot com company crashes.
but he balanced the budget and made regime change in Iraq official U.S. policy 
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RE: 1993 - 2000 - 5/4/2008 10:38:18 PM
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http://www.factcheck.org/askfactcheck/did_more_soldiers_die_during_bill_clintons.html
Actually, even counting non-combat fatalities, more military personnel died during the first six years of George Bush's tenure than during the entire eight years that Bill Clinton was in office.
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RE: 1993 - 2000 - 5/4/2008 10:57:45 PM
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Burnsy
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yeah, that was posted in haste, just something I had heard. and hard to believe at that.
But even just looking at that chart, considering we have been in a war during virtually all of Bush's tenure, clintons numbers still look WAYYY too high
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RE: 1993 - 2000 - 5/4/2008 11:23:24 PM
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It may surprise many to learn that there are so many military deaths during peacetime. But this is just the law of averages at work. In 1993 the military had 1.7 million men and women in uniform. During that same year, 1,175 of them died from accidents, homicide, suicide and illness. That makes the 1993 non-hostile death rate for military personnel 69.1 per 100,000. That's actually fairly low; the rate for all Americans age 20 to 29 is about 97.5. Today's military is considerably smaller, with just under 1.4 million personnel.
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RE: 1993 - 2000 - 5/4/2008 11:28:34 PM
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Burnsy
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...yeah and i dont need you to keep copying and pasting...i went to the site. it doesn't change the fact that clintons numbers look way too high, no matter how the site tries to explain it.
i dont really know why we are arguing this though, i said that i posted that part of my post in haste.
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RE: 1993 - 2000 - 5/5/2008 6:13:34 AM
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spoke2go1
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Regan and Bush senior did nothing to help the economy, ever hear of Reganomics?
Largest economic expansion in U.S. history, lowest amount of people on welfare in 35 years, balanced budget and surplus of money and the world didnt hate us.
Bush got in office and pissed through the surplus, dropped the taxes and started a fight that is to this very day still unjustifiable.
And dont give me that 9/11 bs, that dumb b@stard said there were weapons of mass destruction that posed an imminent threat to the United States. He never said that we needed to free the iraqis, he never said we had to spread democracy and the iraqis had nothing to do with 9/11! Hell they even said that there were no WMD's in Iraq! So you were either lied to or you listened to a dumbass with a vendetta against saddam.
Long live slick willy!!! a.k.a Bill Clinton
And depending on the outcome of the DNC, Ill either be voting for a black man or a bitchy woman.
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RE: 1993 - 2000 - 5/5/2008 6:47:20 AM
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fastbackford351
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Anybody who knew anything about national security or foreign policy was complaining during the Clinton years. He was content to let law enforcement try to handle the terrorism issue and you see what that got us. He and his foreign policy team were incompetent at their best and malfeasant at their worst. He was responsible for passing the law that prohibited intelligence agencies from sharing information with each other. That law was passed to cover his own interests. As a result of that, it could be argued that led directly to 9/11.
He just kicked the serious problems down the road for 8 years and accomplished nothing of note. His legacy is a blue stained dress.
Ronald Reagans reduced the income tax rates DRAMATICALLY. Yes a lot of the deductions were taken away also and congress, during the Clinton years re-raised those tax rates without bringing the deductions back.
Tax cuts are a boon to the economy and work every time. Lower the tax rates and the Federal coffers fill up. Were it not for the BushII taxcuts he introduced at the beginning of his 1st term I shudder to think what kind of economic mess we would be in.
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RE: 1993 - 2000 - 5/5/2008 7:27:45 AM
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Anybody who knew anything about national security or foreign policy was complaining during the Clinton years. He was content to let law enforcement try to handle the terrorism issue and you see what that got us. He and his foreign policy team were incompetent at their best and malfeasant at their worst. He was responsible for passing the law that prohibited intelligence agencies from sharing information with each other. That law was passed to cover his own interests. As a result of that, it could be argued that led directly to 9/11.
how can anyone possibly buy any of that complete bs? until marshall law is declared and we have tanks rolling down our street law enforcement is still handling the terrorism issue and always has been...always will be...as for the rest, lest we forget that 9-11 happened well into bush's years....an argument can be made that they waited until clinton left....as for clinton letting embassies get blown up...i guess he was supposed to pick up his sidearm and go stand post himself? lol....last time i checked embassies were still gettin blown up nowadays...as for legacys...clinton, even after the monica lewinsky scandal, left office one of the most popular presidents ever....george bush is leaving the most unpopular president in history with lower approval rates than even richard nixon....if you think about it...i guess nearly all the people who like bush are right here in this thread...lol
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RE: 1993 - 2000 - 5/5/2008 9:34:09 AM
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Didn't Clinton pass NAFTA... This country was built on the backs of the maufacturing worker!!
I guess now we don't have a backbone and we are waiting on a backbone implant made in China!!!!
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RE: 1993 - 2000 - 5/5/2008 10:03:36 AM
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BJ Bill......he also passed on whacking Ben Laden, let Tomahawks fly against BS targets to pull attention from the (I didn't have sex with that woman) scandal, committed perjury, gutted the military, rode the coatails of Reagen economics, and made the US presidency the laughingstock of the world. +1 Burnsy and Fastback Oh yeah, he was a GREAT president.
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RE: 1993 - 2000 - 5/5/2008 10:33:57 AM
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99% of politicians just plain suck at their job.
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RE: 1993 - 2000 - 5/5/2008 10:41:27 AM
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Regan and Bush senior did nothing to help the economy, ever hear of Reganomics?
Largest economic expansion in U.S. history, lowest amount of people on welfare in 35 years, balanced budget and surplus of money and the world didnt hate us.
Bush got in office and pissed through the surplus, dropped the taxes and started a fight that is to this very day still unjustifiable.
And dont give me that 9/11 bs, that dumb b@stard said there were weapons of mass destruction that posed an imminent threat to the United States. He never said that we needed to free the iraqis, he never said we had to spread democracy and the iraqis had nothing to do with 9/11! Hell they even said that there were no WMD's in Iraq! So you were either lied to or you listened to a dumbass with a vendetta against saddam.
Long live slick willy!!! a.k.a Bill Clinton
And depending on the outcome of the DNC, Ill either be voting for a black man or a bitchy woman.
no clinton did that
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RE: 1993 - 2000 - 5/5/2008 10:45:26 AM
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ok another thing everyone says the military was gutted.
in 1993 our military was BIGGER then today....
Year - GDP on military
1993 4.4
1994 4.0
1995 3.7
1996 3.5
1997 3.3
1998 3.1
1999 3.0
2000 3.0
2001 3.0
2002 3.4
2003 3.7
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