View Full Version : No Burnout? WTF?
Maverickaf17 05-04-2008, 09:15 PM Okay, so I have an 05' V6 with an X-Charger putting out 270 HP/TQ, 18" 18x9 265/35front and 18x10 285/35back, dual exhaust and custom tuned.
So, I'm going out on a limb here. The way I always figured to burnout (for an auto) was to put the car in drive, press on the brake really hard, then start to accelerate until the tires spin.
When that didn't obviously work, I would punch it, let the car only go a couple of feet, then press down on the brake really hard so that way the back tires get moving. But that didn't work either.
Instead, my car seems to move forward (slowly) at about 5-10 mph with the engine not going any higher than about 2500 rpms. Now......am I doing it wrong? Or are my tires too wide and have too much grip on the road? Does my car not have enough power? Or are the V6 front brakes too crappy to keep the front tires from moving?
Let me get some advice or suggestions on burning out, I'm free to criticism and I can admit that I don't know everything about driving or what not. Still a learner and thats cool with me. So, have at it.
Mustang_guy17 05-04-2008, 09:20 PM Umm just floor it.. or get line lock.
Rdot9 05-04-2008, 09:26 PM turn traction control off??
ptkthekid 05-04-2008, 09:36 PM In the old days, (and I am what you would consider "old school") We used to call them "Brake torques". What you want to do is press the brake pedal just enough to stop the front wheels from rolling, but not enough to stop the rear wheels from spinning. It is a fine balance and does take some practice. But don't feel bad, in the old days, the cars had front disk brakes but rear drum brakes. This made it a whole lot easier to "brake torque" a car. Now a days with these new fangled motor cars you have disk brakes all around. This makes them much harder to "Torque up".But with that "X" under the hood(you lucky fraggin ragger fizzle flabber) you should have plenty of Torque to pull it off. Just remember you dont want to press the brake hard enough to stop the rear wheels too!! Then if your real lucky, you can part with a bunch of cash to replace those fatties on the rear end. Alright, end of story time, now off ro bed!!...LOL.. sorry, sometimes I can't help myself He he he
ptkthekid 05-04-2008, 09:38 PM OH YEAH, MAKE SURE THE TRACTION CONTROLL IS OFF!!!!! That will kill it for sure. I hate that damn thing.
Maverickaf17 05-04-2008, 09:55 PM I don't have traction control....
So what now?
07BeastGT 05-04-2008, 09:59 PM ORIGINAL: Maverickaf17
I don't have traction control....
So what now?
Get a V8
MrSandman 05-04-2008, 10:01 PM Retard. His little 6 could take your GT.
ORIGINAL: 07BeastGT
ORIGINAL: Maverickaf17
I don't have traction control....
So what now?
Get a V8
MrSandman 05-04-2008, 10:05 PM I don't know why you are having problems. I have no problems with my non-supercharged 6 and I have a t-loc.
Just hold down the brake and rev to about 1800 rpm... the floor it and release the brake.. When I do that my tires spin enough to make the rear swing sideways.
If you increase your rpms a little.. you should get more of a burnout.
ORIGINAL: Maverickaf17
I don't have traction control....
So what now?
AMoRT 05-04-2008, 10:09 PM ORIGINAL: MrSandman
I don't know why you are having problems. I have no problems with my non-supercharged 6 and I have a t-loc.
Just hold down the brake and rev to about 1800 rpm... the floor it and release the brake.. When I do that my tires spin enough to make the rear swing sideways.
If you increase your rpms a little.. you should get more of a burnout.
ORIGINAL: Maverickaf17
I don't have traction control....
So what now?
I tried that but my car still rolls. My brakes need to be replaced im pretty sure. Once i get up to about 90 then try to slow down I can feel the brakes kind of grinding i guess? I dont really know how to describe it. I think I'm gonna look into a set of gt takeoff brakes. And I don't have t-lok but i'm planning on getting it soon. Then I'll be able to roast some rubber!
ptkthekid 05-04-2008, 10:12 PM That sixxer with an "X" is a beast. I seen one on Gratiot (our local crusin street in Detroit). He was smokin every thing. INCLUDING a few stock GT's(and one that was not so stock, but surprisingly enough, he did not want to talk about his mods after getting CHRUSHED by an "exer",that'll piss em off, He he he he). just practice up dude, you'll get it. and when you do, us stock sixxers wanna hear all the nasty details.
elroyjetson_1978 05-04-2008, 10:16 PM put your left foot on the brake...it doesn't matter how hard. gas it till the tach shows it ain't gettin any higher, lift the brake and slam the gas as fast as you can and don't lift till you gotta or you blow a tire.
landon.moss 05-04-2008, 10:17 PM put it in 1...more power...mines stock and will light em up no problem if you're doin a brake stand...what u mean rev it to 1800...just hold the brake and floor that baby :D
rls82959 05-04-2008, 10:19 PM ORIGINAL: 07BeastGT
ORIGINAL: Maverickaf17
I don't have traction control....
So what now?
Get a V8
Go home short dick.
4.0 Stang 05-04-2008, 10:24 PM I dont know why you would be having a problem doing a burnout. My car will spin the tires without even touching the brake by just flooring it off the line. With holding the brake and giving it gas you should be able to do a huge burnout.
MrSandman 05-04-2008, 10:28 PM You shouldn't even have to do a brake stand then.. just flooring it off the line should get you there.
Before my t-loc.. I could smoke the living crap out of my "tire" without trying.
Definitely something going on if you can't even smoke one tire.
ORIGINAL: AMoRT
ORIGINAL: MrSandman
I don't know why you are having problems. I have no problems with my non-supercharged 6 and I have a t-loc.
Just hold down the brake and rev to about 1800 rpm... the floor it and release the brake.. When I do that my tires spin enough to make the rear swing sideways.
If you increase your rpms a little.. you should get more of a burnout.
ORIGINAL: Maverickaf17
I don't have traction control....
So what now?
I tried that but my car still rolls. My brakes need to be replaced im pretty sure. Once i get up to about 90 then try to slow down I can feel the brakes kind of grinding i guess? I dont really know how to describe it. I think I'm gonna look into a set of gt takeoff brakes. And I don't have t-lok but i'm planning on getting it soon. Then I'll be able to roast some rubber!
vtmustangs 05-04-2008, 10:45 PM ORIGINAL: rls82959
ORIGINAL: 07BeastGT
ORIGINAL: Maverickaf17
I don't have traction control....
So what now?
Get a V8
Go home short dick.
hahaha +10000 to that
Fred Malibu 05-04-2008, 11:12 PM Didnt you just get NEW tires?
I know there is a difference in smoking the tires (at least for me) between my last set and my new set.. Before I could get some spin out of them, but with the new ones I just get really good traction.
I am not X charged tho, so idk what your problem is..
talk to your dyno shop that custom tuned you.
Maverickaf17 05-05-2008, 01:25 AM I think it is the new wide tires i got. They have too much traction...
AmericanICON 05-05-2008, 01:52 AM I've re-read your original post, and it sounds like you're not releasing the brakes. Hold the brake pedal down, tach it up to 1800-2000 rpm, release the brakes, and floor it... should be smoke city!
I have 295 width 18"Nittos and t-lock, and I can screech them pretty good, and I am not blessed with X power.
Maverickaf17 05-05-2008, 11:45 AM I want to stay in one place and burnout, not peel out.
Devil Wolf 05-05-2008, 12:27 PM can't you do a burnout if you over-rev your engine and do a neutral drop? besides it being hard on the trans.
ODDYSEY 05-05-2008, 12:35 PM ORIGINAL: Maverickaf17
I think it is the new wide tires i got. They have too much traction...
That may make it harder, but it will not prevent you from doing it.
I have wide ass nitto 555's and no supercharger and I can sit and spin, it just takes some practice. You don't want to hold the brake pedal down all the way. Just enough to hold the front tires, once then start putting the gas down until the front is in place and the back starts to break loose, when that happens, mash down the gas and watch your money go up in smoke.
68XR7 05-05-2008, 02:28 PM You are really lucky that you haven't destroyed your car! Standing on the brake and standing on the gas (especialy with a blower) Is what some people would call idiotic. Almost as bad as devil wolfs suggestion that you do a neutral drop. Either one has the potential to totaly ruin your vehicle.
Use light brake pressure. Front brakes set up slightly before the rear ones. The front brakes handle the majority of the braking force. Once the tires start spinning, you will no longer be able to hold it back (without a line lock) so don't try. If you have your engine working against the full force of the brakes. The torque exerted on the vehicle is out of this world! Be careful.
Maverickaf17 05-05-2008, 04:32 PM lol.....
I guess I am lucky. Holy ****.
Devil Wolf 05-05-2008, 04:57 PM to clarify, i wasnt suggesting a neutral drop. i was just saying that i believe it would result in a burnout. i havent and wont do it due to the risk of damaging the trans. that isnt to say people dont do it. ive seen lots of autos launch from a netural drop that dont have a high stall converter they can get up on.
jjjmm49 05-05-2008, 05:19 PM This is something we did back it the 70's go to a junk yard and get a windsheild washer set up. Put it in the trunk and run the hoses to squirt the tires run a power wire to a toggle switch .Put a little bleach water in the bottle hit the switch and it's SMOKE city!! Plus it saves brakes and wear and tear on the motor.Only down side is, it's so easy you"ll burn thru more tires.
danbevsv6rumbler 05-05-2008, 05:33 PM armor-all works well too:)
157db 05-05-2008, 05:40 PM Pull her up to a wall, touch wall with bumper.
Release the brake and floor it at the same time
using both feet to accomplish this.
If that dont work, pour some bleach on the rear tires and try again.
Still no burnout, call your tuner and complain about the low end torque.
Maverickaf17 05-05-2008, 06:15 PM It is my low end torque. ****- ing tuner place tuned my car "safely". The stock tune I got from bamachips was better.
ya with 200rwhp it was pretty easy, u shouldnt have any probs.
http://v6mustangvideos.vidiac.com/video/83fe26f2-eed7-4579-9aff-993c00c2454a.htm
basketballord 05-06-2008, 02:58 AM I didn't have problems smoking mine after the X install, but I have stocker rims. I would still think you'd be able to smoke the new 18 inchers. Don't wreck anything trying for the burnout though...traction is good for dragging ya know ;)
raiden 05-06-2008, 09:28 AM Wierd!! Especially with no traction control. Should be able to burn out fairly easy. Even just hitting the gas. OK Ill ask...Are you sure you dont have TCS?
Maverickaf17 05-06-2008, 01:54 PM Yup. Very sure.
afixer 05-06-2008, 10:23 PM sounds like you got my valet tune. dont be in such a hurry to waste your tires. hec all i do is touch the brake and floor it. sounds like the old man detuned the car. LOL
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