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Old 05-04-2008, 08:01 PM   #1
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Default BBK header install went bad

Well today, after 9 hrs, and using a lift I still couldn't complete my BBK shorty header install. I can't get one top bolt in on the drivers side in and so now i have a leak.Ihad to cut a stud short to get another one on, and i had to use a SS bolt for yet another one, but this last one is just aweful. I tried cutting the bolt shorter to fit it but there just isn't enough room to get it into the block let alone turn it with your fingers. I swear i wish I never tried this, my Saleen install was much easier. I'm about to put the stockers back on. I'm going to home depot tomorrow and look for a shorter bolt and give it anothert try tomorrow night but it doesn't look good

Nothing like wasting an entire day with nothing to show for it.[:@]
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Old 05-04-2008, 08:15 PM   #2
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Thankfully, Adam and his crew at ST Motorsports will be installing the ARH LT's. I've read some horror stories about how difficult they can be.

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Old 05-04-2008, 08:16 PM   #3
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are you putting in shorties? I have a set and I can tell you it was a MAJOR PITA!!! For the driver's side, after about an hour of fumbling with those bolts I just said screw it and disconnected the steer column, unbolted the engine and used the engine hoist on the lift w/a tranny jack to lift the motor and give a little more room.
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Old 05-04-2008, 08:21 PM   #4
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Sure do wish you well on getting it done. That was one of the reasons I chose to go with the Kooks LT. They were hard enough to get in but complete install only took me 5-1/2 hours so thats not to bad. Good luck.
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Old 05-04-2008, 08:52 PM   #5
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sorry to hear about how things are going so far...good luck with getting them installed tomorrow
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Old 05-04-2008, 11:02 PM   #6
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are you putting in shorties? I have a set and I can tell you it was a MAJOR PITA!!! For the driver's side, after about an hour of fumbling with those bolts I just said screw it and disconnected the steer column, unbolted the engine and used the engine hoist on the lift w/a tranny jack to lift the motor and give a little more room.
thats what my mechanic did as well to make the install easier. We read so many people having issues with it so we just didn't even try to fumble with it and just unbloted every thing and the install took about 8 hours with no issues.
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Old 05-04-2008, 11:05 PM   #7
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Let us know how this ultimately turns out. I've got a new set of BBK shorties waiting to be installed.
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Old 05-05-2008, 12:24 AM   #8
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If you undo the steering shaft and slide the steering rack forward, you get more room. That along with undoing the motor mounts and pulling the motor up gives you tons of room. Well, not tons but alot more.
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Old 05-05-2008, 09:27 AM   #9
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Thanks, I'll will lift the engine again. That last bolt is on the drivers side, It's on the top and it is the third from the front. You just can't get your fingers in there and you can't get the bolt in. I did this job with my brother in law who has been a mechanic for 30 years and he was just as frustrated as i was. I had the steering column out and the engine up when i did the bottom bolts, and they seemed easy enough.

One of the studs had to be cut so it would fit so even if I wanted to get it out I don't know if I can. If it doesn't go well tonight i will either go back to stock or have the car towed to either Kooks in Bayshore or ARH in Deer park and say "just put your headers on, I don't care how long it takes, let me know when it's done". Either that or I'll just pour gas on it and call it a day.[:@]
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Old 05-05-2008, 07:14 PM   #10
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Your not going to want to hear what I am about to tell you... but to get that bolt in, it has to be the first one you start with, and it has to be shorter than the ones that come with the headers. I messed with that bolt for nearly 3 hours and that was the only way I could get it on. Two sets of hands are a nessesacity for that too.. Also, when doing the passenger side, you'll find it helpful to use a mixture of the stock studs and the short bolts provided by BBK. Any place that its tight to get the bolt in place, what I did was use the stud, and leave the header out from the head just enough so that I could start the nuts on each stud, and then slide the header the rest of the way in.

Two other tips:

1. If you disconnected your stearing shaft, DO NOT turn your steering wheel from lock to lock to find the center. You will break the clock spring that makes the electrical connections in the steering column.

2. When you put the bolts back into the steering shaft... Loc-tite is your friend.
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