View Full Version : racing an LT1


silverstang1996
05-04-2008, 02:16 PM
A guy from school got an LT1 a little bit ago I guess, keeps texting me to race him, think I'm going out here pretty soon to see who's gots the faster car! wish me luck
PS: i think all he has is exhaust

empatho
05-04-2008, 02:55 PM
good luck, and post a kill when you get back.

silverstang1996
05-04-2008, 03:15 PM
yup i smoked him. I thought it was going to be alot closer, he had a manual just with exhaust but i got him by quite a few cars, probably atleast 4. I think something was either wrong with his car or he couldn't drive because I just raced a 96-98 GT 5spd. with very little bolt ons and I had him by the same distance. He didn't get off the line to good, I didn't hear tires sqeaul or anything, I thought for sure he'd have me off the line for a few seconds cause he had a manual but I just pulled on him the whole way up to 80-90 somewhere in there (wasn't looking at speedo)

S8ER01Z
05-04-2008, 05:57 PM
Good kill... could be a bad opti, bad driver or his car was just slower... either way you won. :)

silverstang1996
05-04-2008, 08:57 PM
ORIGINAL: S8ER01Z

Good kill... could be a bad opti, bad driver or his car was just slower... either way you won. :)


that's what i was thinking if it wasn't driver error

Morbid Intentions
05-04-2008, 09:21 PM
damn optispark [>:]

one of the reasonsI always say
http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e353/bharsen/4687009B54C046768A57615A9A40C262.jpg

AZsGr8est
05-04-2008, 09:34 PM
nah bro. Thats all a lt1has

Sarge_13
05-04-2008, 09:40 PM
ORIGINAL: Morbid Intentions

damn optispark [>:]

one of the reasonsI always say
http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e353/bharsen/4687009B54C046768A57615A9A40C262.jpg



The LT1 is still a damn good engine. Opticrap or not

tspence45
05-05-2008, 12:17 AM
ORIGINAL: AZsGr8est

nah bro. Thats all a lt1has

Says the guy with an auto 2v. :eek:

tspence45
05-05-2008, 12:19 AM
ORIGINAL: Sarge_13

ORIGINAL: Morbid Intentions

damn optispark [>:]

one of the reasonsI always say
http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e353/bharsen/4687009B54C046768A57615A9A40C262.jpg



The LT1 is still a damn good engine. Opticrap or not


It's just overshadowed by the LS1. The same thing will happen with whatever engine is put in the new Camaro.

One Bad MOFO
05-05-2008, 02:21 AM
ORIGINAL: tspence45

ORIGINAL: Sarge_13

ORIGINAL: Morbid Intentions

damn optispark [>:]

one of the reasonsI always say
http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e353/bharsen/4687009B54C046768A57615A9A40C262.jpg



The LT1 is still a damn good engine. Opticrap or not


It's just overshadowed by the LS1. The same thing will happen with whatever engine is put in the new Camaro.

I agree the lt1 is still a pretty good engine.
But, the ls1 is a beast, I doubt it will really get overshadowed/left behind by the new camaro. There are ls2's and ls3's out already and ls1's are still the motor most people doing any type of swap use. i don't know though jmo.

94GT300
05-05-2008, 10:13 AM
ORIGINAL: AZsGr8est

nah bro. Thats all a lt1has


i bet my 175k mile lt1 would drag ur pile down the road? u ever took it to the track, mine runs 8.3s@84 with **** 1.9 60s

LT1RUNNER
05-05-2008, 06:43 PM
Yea the LT1's are still good engines with enough bite to take on most. Good kill to the OP though. A win is a win!!

MustangMadness7
05-05-2008, 08:16 PM
LT1's are great engines, but they are overshadowed by the LS1. I dont think that any engine is going to be doing the same to the LS1 anytime soon. It will always be remembered fondly, like the 5.0 still is now

silverstang1996
05-05-2008, 09:04 PM
ORIGINAL: 94GT300

ORIGINAL: AZsGr8est

nah bro. Thats all a lt1has


i bet my 175k mile lt1 would drag ur pile down the road? u ever took it to the track, mine runs 8.3s@84 with **** 1.9 60s


didn't you read his sig? if he has full bolt ons and 4.10's so he probably could run those numbers at least, i know a full bolt on auto with 4.10's would easily take my car

98LS1
05-05-2008, 09:18 PM
ORIGINAL: AZsGr8est

nah bro. Thats all a lt1has


Honestly....stfu.

The LT1, even stock, should have you out torqued by 30rwtq and match your hp level. Sounds like you beat the driver. Nothing wrong with that.

An auto with a gear under it and some decent power is nothing to laugh at...especially from a stop.

Nice kill.

silverstang1996
05-05-2008, 09:24 PM
ORIGINAL: 98LS1

ORIGINAL: AZsGr8est

nah bro. Thats all a lt1has


Honestly....stfu.

The LT1, even stock, should have you out torqued by 30rwtq and match your hp level. Sounds like you beat the driver. Nothing wrong with that.

An auto with a gear under it and some decent power is nothing to laugh at...especially from a stop.

Nice kill.


even if he out torqued me he deffinetly isn't on the same HP level, how would a stock LT1 with 275hp matched my 261rwhp, he'd only have at most 250 to the wheels, i know for a fact that LT1 wouldn't beat me because I raced one awhile ago but it was a lot closer, within a car or somewhere around there.

98LS1
05-05-2008, 09:32 PM
They were underrated....my buddy that used to post here, silverz28 or w/e his name was, made 258rwhp stock....

Kinda like my '98 TA made 325rwhp with a simple cutout....through an automatic, yet it was rated at 305hp at the crank.

silverstang1996
05-05-2008, 09:41 PM
eh I don't think all LT's were underratted atleast, how would you explain the two some other poster said about with the horribly low HP/TQ, and even further then just explain how I beat two of them, one I admit was badly driven but the other I knew couldn't have been because he too had an auto with full exhaust. I'm not trying to argue just because you said I shouldn't have won, just my experiences/what I've heard have shown me differently. I even drove in a different LT1 of a friends and wasn't really impressed with it at all over what I thought it'd be like.

Morbid Intentions
05-05-2008, 09:55 PM
just touching up on where I left off

I think the LT1 is a great engine, my drag buddy is now pulling 13.3@101MPH is his A4 LT1 formula

mods are CAI, catback, 9" rear, 2400stall, DR's, tranny cooler, deeper oilpan, 3.73's

IMO not a bad time for a car with just a set of flowmasters and a K&N CAI (all he has to tell other people really)

I personally just think the picture is funny [8D]

tspence45
05-05-2008, 10:35 PM
ORIGINAL: 98LS1

They were underrated....my buddy that used to post here, silverz28 or w/e his name was, made 258rwhp stock....

Kinda like my '98 TA made 325rwhp with a simple cutout....through an automatic, yet it was rated at 305hp at the crank.

Yeah, about 250 is what an auto LT1 will make. I also saw a '96 WS6 6speed that made 286whp, with nothing but a Loudmouth catback. They must respond well to bolt-ons too, since the bolt-on record for an LT1, is around 330rwhp. That reminds me, I need to get my car dynoed sometime soon, to see what I'm making.

silverstang1996
05-05-2008, 10:43 PM
eh i still would say I'd have to believe it to see it, someone finally opened up to me on LS1LT1.com to my thread asking about it and they said morely in the range what i was thinking, a guy said a member put down 230rwhp 260-70rwtq in his A4. I'd have to see a dyno slip to believe a LT1 putting down 250 to the wheels, not saying you're wrong but I can't just go off what someone says online or I'd have a crapload of false info ya know

here's his post:
I belive a memeber on here w/ the s/n of Scott Anderson dyno'd his 97 TA A4 at ~232 rwhp and about ~265-270 rwtq. I've heard of a lot of other bone stock LT1's in that general range w/in 2-5 hp and tq stock.

94GT300
05-06-2008, 09:11 AM
i rana FULL BOLT on 03 gt with 3.73s from a 15 and pulled him by 3 cars to 110 and still pulling strong(he ran 8.7s@81 or something, im sure a full bolt on geared auto would give me somewhat of a run at the strip since im a 6 speed car, but on the highway ive never came close to losingto a mustang GT and ive raced like 5-6...

I did however almost loose to an bonestock 01 cobra about a month ago....
I seen him getting on the highway, and quickly did the same, but i got beside him and seen it was some old man so i was like wtf hes want race me so i dropped it into 3rd and jumped at him and just took off to see if hed bite but he didnt...but after i let off he came flying back by me as i did him...so i got beside him at like 70-80 im in 5th at like 3k and hes a car back from me and he guns it and as soon as he gets even with me i drop it to 4th(around 3600) shoulda went to 3rd and been around 42-4400 but oh well, he pulled a car to about 90 which is right where my car was starting to make decent power(4400-4800) and i stopped his pull and slowly pulled back by 6k in 4th or 120mph where i just had got about 1/4 car in front of him...
Im just assuming it was stock because i could barley hear it over my LT's and SLP LMs, it may have had a CAI or Flows but i highly doubt anymore than that...but my car was def faster if i had of went to 3rd id prolly had 1-2 cars on him by 120 and with an even start 3 or so

S8ER01Z
05-06-2008, 09:21 AM
http://www.chevyhiperformance.com/techarticles/148_0502_rear_mounted_turbo/photo_15.html

LT1 Dyno Results
Stock HP
273

Stock TQ
302

7 psi-HP
385

7 psi TQ
445

USMCrebel
05-06-2008, 09:29 AM
i love me some STS!

S8ER01Z
05-06-2008, 09:40 AM
Hells yeah.. I've been on the fence about that being one of my first main mods or not. The jump is gas mileage alone would be worth it for me. [8D]

USMCrebel
05-06-2008, 09:51 AM
yeah, i've been looking at turbos for MPG purposes, i mean it take stress off the motor and places it on the turbos, and works well in diesel, but how much would it really help on a gas motor?

S8ER01Z
05-06-2008, 10:38 AM
I've heard a gain of ~5mpg... which isn't great but considering I see ~30 right now...it's fairly tempting.

USMCrebel
05-06-2008, 10:47 AM
lol i only see 26[:@] damn 5spd

jmdgto
05-06-2008, 11:00 AM
good win.

silverstang1996
05-06-2008, 06:37 PM
ORIGINAL: S8ER01Z

http://www.chevyhiperformance.com/techarticles/148_0502_rear_mounted_turbo/photo_15.html

LT1 Dyno Results
Stock HP
273

Stock TQ
302

7 psi-HP
385

7 psi TQ
445






that's what i needed to believe it! haha, i guess they vary a lot, maybe by how they are taken care of, huh?

S8ER01Z
05-07-2008, 03:01 PM
Some Opticraps were bad straight from the get go, and some cars are poorly maintained. It also depends on the dyno...I don't think people were as aware of the dynojet/mustang dyno differences back when LT1 cars were getting dynoed. Not to mention lack of paper scanners, the internet (as it is today), etc... Typically you see results posted from cars with very little info (very old old and poor memory of the event) or a car that someone just purchased and dynoed recently. Very tough to get accurate results of what a brand new 1993, 1994,1995, etc LT1 car would have dynoed unless a magazine did it back in the day and published it.

aode08
05-07-2008, 06:52 PM
its the gearing that makes them slow.

LT1RUNNER
05-07-2008, 07:12 PM
My car was wicked fast when I first got and all it had was headers. No tuning or any mods in the engine (trust me it's sitting in my garage in pieces.) and I raced 2 GT's 95-98ish and a 5.0 and beat them all by a couple cars each. (4 lenths for the 5.0) so unless these cars were severly underpowered or my car was a freak I think they put out more.I don't know.I've been wrong before. So maintinance has a lot to do with it. Now I've got a block with only 24k on it and a brand new top end and a tune this thing screams. It scary to think that there are cars out there with more power.

S8ER01Z
05-08-2008, 09:04 AM
ORIGINAL: aode08

its the gearing that makes them slow.


I've never sat and compared them to another car...that is an interesting point to ponder. Hmmm...