those calling the south traitors.is wrong they fought for what they believed in.the war had to do with $$$$$$$$$ the north had the industry the south had the product.the north sold for alot and payed the south a little...politics is money, money is politics...you be proud in how you are and where you come from and where you are going...nothing else matters!!the war had nothing to do w/ slavery,slavery was just a by-factor...why do you think even blacks fought...they could have ran just as easy...they were given weapons!!!but they chose to fight for the south...if G. Wasington lost the war he would have been hung as a traitor...every war has a loser,and the loser always get bad-mouthed.look at hitler, he was on the cover of time mag. as man of the year in 1932.know look at what we say about him.right or wrong we feed off of money!!!!!!!thats it.the why's are not important,just the out come...our constitution was set up for a free life and by the us cons. if we as people feel just cause to draw arms against the gov. we can.foolish, but we can.it is the people that slander other people for what they believe and are proud of,the people that are breaking the us cons. admens.so who gives a **** what other people think or are proud of ...worry about yourself .and find out what you believe to be true in your own heart and be proud of that so you can be happy...let everyone else live in ignorance...i as an Odinist does not get offended by someone wearing a christian cross even though they slaughter my people into christianity...**** happens.get over it its just a flag no matter why its being hung...does the flag hurt you...give you nightmares...i dont think so...so whats the big deal??? what i'm tripping on is that theres a camaro on this furom..lol
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First off no, the south was NOT the backbone of the Revolution. The vast majority of the major battles took place in the northern states, and the main core of soldiers were from the northern states. The last few years moved down to the South because the English knew the southern states were more Loyalist than the northern states, in fact, and the Continental army and French had to follow them there. I know my AWI history, and you are straight up wrong.
No one has said the confederate battle flag is the root of all evil. What many have said is that it is the battle flag (and yes, it is a BATTLE FLAG. The first and second and third national flags of the CSA are not what you think of when you say "Confederate flag...") of a force that was dedicated to the destruction of the United States. You all can argue that all you want, but you are wrong.
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I don't dislike blacks, jewish people, and mexicans as a whole. I only dislike the majority that I have met or know of.
I think the problem here is that most people can't separate the idea of having pride in this particular symbol of defiance and rebelliousness from necessarily agreeing with all of its darker connotations. (We're not nearly distant enough from WWII to make any similar statement about that other symbol - and given that that mess was global in scale and orders of magnitude worse we, as in humanity, may never get there.)
Somehow I suspect that most people look at the "General Lee's" roof mural in the favorable light of legitimate disobedience. I certainly don't think it cost whatever TV network very many viewers, either back when the show first aired or now.
Truth be told, I'm a born and bred New Englander, and I'm not separated from the Civil War by quite as many generations as are most folks posting here (my grandparents were all born in the late 1800's, and I was fortunate enough to have had two great-grandparents still alive as I was growing up). But I find that I prefer some of the more conservative Southern ways. And I think I understand what fastbackford and redneck are trying to say.
Norm
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