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FirePower 05-02-2008, 10:57 AM So I was reading Road & Track or Car & Driver or something at the dentist office the other day and it said that all auto-manufacturers must begin complying with new laws regarding emmisions and such, and so Ford, as a result, would be required to put a more efficient engine in the GT.
They are going to put an EcoBoost twin-turbo 6 Cyl. in the GT that will have more HP than the current 4.6, I think the target date is 2012 or something. Some Ford people were quoted saying the market won't buy the switch.
So the question is....
Would you care if your GT had only 4 or 6 cyls if it was faster than your neighbors GT with 8 cyls?
Does size really matter?[8D]Why?
Sorry if this topic has been covered here 10 times, I haven't seen it.
dubarado 05-02-2008, 10:58 AM great idea... but I love me some v8 muscle.
Explosive 05-02-2008, 10:58 AM I say stick with the V8. But a twin turbo 6 cylinder would be bad ass.
Zanador 05-02-2008, 11:00 AM I would not be adverse to having a TT Mustang.
As long as I also have a 454 or 429 in the garage :D
ShadowWulf 05-02-2008, 11:16 AM 5.0L 4v mod motor
07BeastGT 05-02-2008, 11:18 AM Would they really make 3 different engines in 3 years? 2010 4.6 V8, 2011 6.3 (I believe) V8, 2012 V6 TT.
Sounds like too much trouble if you ask me.
99BlackPonyGT 05-02-2008, 11:23 AM omg not this thread AGAIN [:o]the last one went on for pages and pages and pages....basically half the site is going to say that v8s are the best and the only thing they will buy, then the other half will call them dumb rednecks and post pics of porsches to show that a sixxer can be fast etc etc blah blah sixxers suck, gt people are ignorant rednecks, half the site would rock a v6 tt if its faster, the other half only want v8....
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35thAnni99GT 05-02-2008, 11:25 AM I'll just swap a 2JZ and smoke everyone
FirePower 05-02-2008, 11:26 AM ORIGINAL: 07BeastGT
Would they really make 3 different engines in 3 years? 2010 4.6 V8, 2011 6.3 (I believe) V8, 2012 V6 TT.
Sounds like too much trouble if you ask me.
The TT V6 is undoubtedly going into production, the question is only whether or not they will put one in the GT.
Someone in the article said all the production muscle cars are going to be a thing of the past, so.... smoke 'em while you got 'em! That's why they will put out the higher output engines now while they can. And I'm sure heavy trucks and such will need to be exempt from the law because sometimes you just need more base displacement and rotational mass, yes? So they will need to keep some big V8s in production.
35thAnni99GT 05-02-2008, 11:29 AM ^^ or maybe they will switch to running inline 6 turbo diesels for trucks too eh?
kngdaka 05-02-2008, 11:33 AM ORIGINAL: 99BlackPonyGT
omg not this thread AGAIN [:o]the last one went on for pages and pages and pages....basically half the site is going to say that v8s are the best and the only thing they will buy, then the other half will call them dumb rednecks and post pics of porsches to show that a sixxer can be fast etc etc blah blah sixxers suck, gt people are ignorant rednecks, half the site would rock a v6 tt if its faster, the other half only want v8....
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And that about covers everything that will be said in the next 12 pages if this thread stays open. Good work.
99BlackPonyGT 05-02-2008, 11:35 AM yea, im pretty pro
drhoward 05-02-2008, 11:39 AM GTS SHOULD ONLY BE V8
IF THEY AREN'T i am going to riot and burn down things
and people who drive v6's are gay/have small penniis/listen to celine dion
/thread[:o]:eek:[8D]:D:)
99BlackPonyGT 05-02-2008, 11:40 AM http://www.mustangforums.com/m_4616754/tm.htm
here go read up OP
/thread
99BlackPonyGT 05-02-2008, 11:42 AM and v8 ftw, thats what aftermarket companies are for...cancel the v8, find a base model stang and drop your own engine in it...problem solved
Trmachuno 05-02-2008, 11:42 AM No, everybody's got the eco laws thing wrong. It's a law that makes all car manufactures to have at least 1 car with like 35mpg+ or something like that, not to kill off all 8 cylinders, if they did that no one would buy trucks and suv's b/c they'd be as slow as ****.
nghtrnnr 05-02-2008, 11:45 AM I would take a n/a v8 engine that makes big power over a forced induction v6 thats making the same power any day of the week....a twin turbo v6 will probably be the best it can be right out of the box...wheres the fun in that? gimmeea v8 that i can reach the sky with any day of the week
Redneck97 05-02-2008, 11:46 AM ORIGINAL: nghtrnnr
I would take a n/a v8 engine that makes big power over a forced induction v6 thats making the same power any day of the week....a twin turbo v6 will probably be the best it can be right out of the box...wheres the fun in that? gimmeea v8 that i can reach the sky with any day of the week
I disagree.
http://www.dragtimes.com/images/7427-1987-Buick-Grand-National.jpg
Grand National FTW.
FirePower 05-02-2008, 11:47 AM ORIGINAL: 99BlackPonyGT
http://www.mustangforums.com/m_4616754/tm.htm
here go read up OP
/thread
Thank you!
35thAnni99GT 05-02-2008, 11:48 AM I'd still rather drop 1000 dollars into a TT V6 (CAI, midpipe, catback, crank the boost and get it retuned) and gain 100 whp than spend 2500 dollars on the V8 to do the same thing.
And so you don't misinterpret, I'd rather have the factory F/I motor from the factory that gets me bang/buck, which is why I also did the Termie swap.
Trmachuno 05-02-2008, 11:49 AM ORIGINAL: nghtrnnr
I would take a n/a v8 engine that makes big power over a forced induction v6 thats making the same power any day of the week....a twin turbo v6 will probably be the best it can be right out of the box...wheres the fun in that? gimmeea v8 that i can reach the sky with any day of the week
Apparently you've never heard of Supras :eek:
drhoward 05-02-2008, 12:00 PM commonnnnn everyone knows that turbo cars have no tuning potential/aftermarket support[8D]
SWATSCHOOL 05-02-2008, 12:10 PM I want the sound of a V8. If I want a Turbo sixxer I'll go over to japan.
nghtrnnr 05-02-2008, 12:20 PM ORIGINAL: SteelStang05
ORIGINAL: nghtrnnr
I would take a n/a v8 engine that makes big power over a forced induction v6 thats making the same power any day of the week....a twin turbo v6 will probably be the best it can be right out of the box...wheres the fun in that? gimmeea v8 that i can reach the sky with any day of the week
Apparently you've never heard of Supras :eek:
sigh...ofcourse i've heard of supras....i said a twin turbo v6 will probably be the best it can be right out of the box...please try to think a bit...we're talking 2012 andi said PROBABLY...i imagine if ford is going to try and sell the idea of a v6gt to the masses they are probaly gonna have to make it extremely kick ass out of the box....they will try and squeeze every bit of power out of it...again i say PROBABLY (try and focus on that word) whereas to my thinking i would rather have a n/a v8 ...gosh i hope i explained that a lil better
35thAnni99GT 05-02-2008, 12:21 PM weksos... I'm gonna put a Renault F1 engine in whatever I buy.
Jugador 05-02-2008, 12:32 PM ORIGINAL: SteelStang05
No, everybody's got the eco laws thing wrong. It's a law that makes all car manufactures to have at least 1 car with like 35mpg+ or something like that, not to kill off all 8 cylinders, if they did that no one would buy trucks and suv's b/c they'd be as slow as ****.
yourself included. the average of all production cars has to be 35mpg highway. the average may or may not include fleet trucks and bigger trucks. they'll make the gas mileage numbers by gearing if they have to.
TRBOPWR 05-02-2008, 01:18 PM ORIGINAL: nghtrnnr
I would take a n/a v8 engine that makes big power over a forced induction v6 thats making the same power any day of the week....a twin turbo v6 will probably be the best it can be right out of the box...wheres the fun in that? gimmeea v8 that i can reach the sky with any day of the week
You sir know nothing about turbocharged applications. People are using the more extreme examples of the Supras and GN's, and they work. But if you take any factory turbocharged vehicle it is childs play to get more power out of it. Bump up timing and boost, better IC, exhaust work, etc and you will see very large gains for very little $ when compared to an NA motor.
nghtrnnr 05-02-2008, 01:23 PM ORIGINAL: TRBOPWR
ORIGINAL: nghtrnnr
I would take a n/a v8 engine that makes big power over a forced induction v6 thats making the same power any day of the week....a twin turbo v6 will probably be the best it can be right out of the box...wheres the fun in that? gimmeea v8 that i can reach the sky with any day of the week
You sir know nothing about turbocharged applications. People are using the more extreme examples of the Supras and GN's, and they work. But if you take any factory turbocharged vehicle it is childs play to get more power out of it. Bump up timing and boost, better IC, exhaust work, etc and you will see very large gains for very little $ when compared to an NA motor.
ye gods!! are ye daft, laddy.....again and i highlight AGAIN i will explain it...you even highlighted my words and got it wrong...I KNOW WHAT YOU CAN DO WITH A TURBO ENGINE...I KNOW ABOUT ALL THE PAST TURBO CARS....I SAID FORD WILL PROBABLY PROBABLY PROBABLY tweak it as much as they can out the box...like you said...its childs play....(my god people are so determined to try and act like they know more before they even read.)
99BlackPonyGT 05-02-2008, 01:26 PM ford wont push it to its limits stock....less reliability, worse fuel economy, leaves no room for aftermarket frpp options
SWATSCHOOL 05-02-2008, 01:29 PM They'll probably have some crappy options like increased boost or some stupid sh1t for mucho dinero!
99GTvert 05-02-2008, 01:32 PM ORIGINAL: SteelStang05
No, everybody's got the eco laws thing wrong. It's a law that makes all car manufactures to have at least 1 car with like 35mpg+ or something like that, not to kill off all 8 cylinders, if they did that no one would buy trucks and suv's b/c they'd be as slow as ****.
no no no no no
goddamnit. if that was the case, then there would be no discussion about putting a TT sixxer in a mustang if they could just get 35mpg focus and say **** the rest. ****n'a you suck.
99GTvert 05-02-2008, 01:38 PM ORIGINAL: nghtrnnr
ORIGINAL: TRBOPWR
ORIGINAL: nghtrnnr
I would take a n/a v8 engine that makes big power over a forced induction v6 thats making the same power any day of the week....a twin turbo v6 will probably be the best it can be right out of the box...wheres the fun in that? gimmeea v8 that i can reach the sky with any day of the week
You sir know nothing about turbocharged applications. People are using the more extreme examples of the Supras and GN's, and they work. But if you take any factory turbocharged vehicle it is childs play to get more power out of it. Bump up timing and boost, better IC, exhaust work, etc and you will see very large gains for very little $ when compared to an NA motor.
ye gods!! are ye daft, laddy.....again and i highlight AGAIN i will explain it...you even highlighted my words and got it wrong...I KNOW WHAT YOU CAN DO WITH A TURBO ENGINE...I KNOW ABOUT ALL THE PAST TURBO CARS....I SAID FORD WILL PROBABLY PROBABLY PROBABLY tweak it as much as they can out the box...like you said...its childs play....(my god people are so determined to try and act like they know more before they even read.)
yes, because it makes a lot of sense to sell a car with a motor at its peak 100% at the limit potential. :eek:
nghtrnnr 05-02-2008, 01:40 PM i dont know 99black...if you were ford and you had to try and sell the idea of a v6 gt to a buncha die hard v8 guys like us...wouldnt you want that first edition to totally win over the masses...i mean killing off the v8 mustang (again) might destroy the flagship model of the ford empire....i know if i were the designer / marketer i would pull out all stops on my new idea...the mustang gt has been a v8 for almost half a century...that first v6 gt better be a knockout/homerun ... not saying it will happen...saying it COULD happen
simpsonfan13 05-02-2008, 01:45 PM ORIGINAL: Jugador
ORIGINAL: SteelStang05
No, everybody's got the eco laws thing wrong. It's a law that makes all car manufactures to have at least 1 car with like 35mpg+ or something like that, not to kill off all 8 cylinders, if they did that no one would buy trucks and suv's b/c they'd be as slow as ****.
yourself included. the average of all production cars has to be 35mpg highway. the average may or may not include fleet trucks and bigger trucks. they'll make the gas mileage numbers by gearing if they have to.
now with the new cafe standards requiring an AVREAGE do you think the mustang can be the outlier?
nghtrnnr 05-02-2008, 01:45 PM ORIGINAL: 99GTvert
ORIGINAL: nghtrnnr
ORIGINAL: TRBOPWR
ORIGINAL: nghtrnnr
I would take a n/a v8 engine that makes big power over a forced induction v6 thats making the same power any day of the week....a twin turbo v6 will probably be the best it can be right out of the box...wheres the fun in that? gimmeea v8 that i can reach the sky with any day of the week
You sir know nothing about turbocharged applications. People are using the more extreme examples of the Supras and GN's, and they work. But if you take any factory turbocharged vehicle it is childs play to get more power out of it. Bump up timing and boost, better IC, exhaust work, etc and you will see very large gains for very little $ when compared to an NA motor.
ye gods!! are ye daft, laddy.....again and i highlight AGAIN i will explain it...you even highlighted my words and got it wrong...I KNOW WHAT YOU CAN DO WITH A TURBO ENGINE...I KNOW ABOUT ALL THE PAST TURBO CARS....I SAID FORD WILL PROBABLY PROBABLY PROBABLY tweak it as much as they can out the box...like you said...its childs play....(my god people are so determined to try and act like they know more before they even read.)
yes, because it makes a lot of sense to sell a car with a motor at its peak 100% at the limit potential. :eek:
:eek:the idea seems to work for the fastest and most expensive cars in the world smart guy.....but i guess in your world guys have bugatti veyrons in their backyards installing boltons and rockinricer mufflers...:eek:
99GTvert 05-02-2008, 01:47 PM are we talking about the fastest and most expensive cars in the world, smart guy?
35thAnni99GT 05-02-2008, 01:53 PM If they run 36 pounds of boost on a bulletproof bottom end that will rival Titan Motorsport's 8 second Supra, from the factory,then yes it might as well be.
99BlackPonyGT 05-02-2008, 01:53 PM if the stang was pushed to its max, it wouldnt have ...what? 350ish hp or something?
99BlackPonyGT 05-02-2008, 01:56 PM ORIGINAL: 35thAnni99GT
If they run 36 pounds of boost on a bulletproof bottom end that will rival Titan Motorsport's 8 second Supra, from the factory,then yes it might as well be.
lol...ford would never run 36 lbs of boost in a stock car....and a tt sixxer running that much boost would have a lot more power than the projections
nghtrnnr 05-02-2008, 02:00 PM ORIGINAL: 99GTvert
are we talking about the fastest and most expensive cars in the world, smart guy?
no we arent...butYOU made the bonehead statement that a car made at its potential doesnt make sense and wouldnt turn a profit...i simply pointed out what a dumb statement that was....okay smart guy?
99GTvert 05-02-2008, 02:00 PM my guess is with a sixxer and TT, they will probably push between 330-380 hp. i don't think that it will be maxed out though, i still think you will be able to **** with the boost settings and push more horsepower out of it.
i mean, they sold the terminator at its max potential, right? hgiaenkag
nghtrnnr 05-02-2008, 02:02 PM ORIGINAL: 99BlackPonyGT
if the stang was pushed to its max, it wouldnt have ...what? 350ish hp or something?
that would be my guess...and i would prefer a n/a v8
35thAnni99GT 05-02-2008, 02:12 PM But the genius of a factory forced induction car, is less work tuning. Assuming Ford provides a *good* drivetrain platform, you can slap on two 50 trim snails, up the boost, tune it aggressively and have a car that makes 600whp.
Doommaker 05-02-2008, 02:38 PM Why don't they just put all that cool **** on a v8 then it would be like 4x as fast as the 4.6.......
35thAnni99GT 05-02-2008, 02:42 PM Because making big power out of a 2.0 litre 6 banger is viable and saves gas.
99GTvert 05-02-2008, 04:16 PM ORIGINAL: nghtrnnr
ORIGINAL: 99GTvert
are we talking about the fastest and most expensive cars in the world, smart guy?
no we arent...blah blah blah
that's all that's needed to know. :D
SMART GUY. [8D]
TRBOPWR 05-02-2008, 04:35 PM ORIGINAL: nghtrnnr
ye gods!! are ye daft, laddy.....again and i highlight AGAIN i will explain it...you even highlighted my words and got it wrong...I KNOW WHAT YOU CAN DO WITH A TURBO ENGINE...I KNOW ABOUT ALL THE PAST TURBO CARS....I SAID FORD WILL PROBABLY PROBABLY PROBABLY tweak it as much as they can out the box...like you said...its childs play....(my god people are so determined to try and act like they know more before they even read.)
OK, laddy, you are confused. Do you honestly believe that FORD will have the cartuned toFULL potential straight out of the box? Do you REALLY believe that? If you do you are even more naive than you seem.
nghtrnnr 05-02-2008, 05:17 PM ORIGINAL: TRBOPWR
ORIGINAL: nghtrnnr
ye gods!! are ye daft, laddy.....again and i highlight AGAIN i will explain it...you even highlighted my words and got it wrong...I KNOW WHAT YOU CAN DO WITH A TURBO ENGINE...I KNOW ABOUT ALL THE PAST TURBO CARS I SAID FORD WILL PROBABLY PROBABLY PROBABLY tweak it as much as they can out the box.......like you said...its childs play....(my god people are so determined to try and act like they know more before they even read.)
OK, laddy, you are confused. Do you honestly believe that FORD will have the cartuned toFULL potential straight out of the box? Do you REALLY believe that? If you do you are even more naive than you seem.
english is your second lanquage isnt it? ....I SAID FORD WILL PROBABLY PROBABLY PROBABLY tweak it as much as they can out the box...you cant possibly be this slow...its an act right?
nghtrnnr 05-02-2008, 05:19 PM ORIGINAL: 99GTvert
i'm gay.....i like to grobe sailors...and i love to hear myself talk....blah blah blah....
see...we can both play
5.0LitreSN95 05-02-2008, 06:45 PM ORIGINAL: nghtrnnr
ORIGINAL: TRBOPWR
ORIGINAL: nghtrnnr
ye gods!! are ye daft, laddy.....again and i highlight AGAIN i will explain it...you even highlighted my words and got it wrong...I KNOW WHAT YOU CAN DO WITH A TURBO ENGINE...I KNOW ABOUT ALL THE PAST TURBO CARS I SAID FORD WILL PROBABLY PROBABLY PROBABLY tweak it as much as they can out the box.......like you said...its childs play....(my god people are so determined to try and act like they know more before they even read.)
OK, laddy, you are confused. Do you honestly believe that FORD will have the cartuned toFULL potential straight out of the box? Do you REALLY believe that? If you do you are even more naive than you seem.
english is your second lanquage isnt it? ....I SAID FORD WILL PROBABLY PROBABLY PROBABLY tweak it as much as they can out the box...you cant possibly be this slow...its an act right?
Just because you throw the word "probably" in front of what you say doesn't mean you can't be wrong. Look at the 03-04 cobra or the GT500, both those cars are all out performance vehicles, but both are not running at 100% capacity. Almost no vehicles (except high end drag cars, formula 1 vehicles etc)run at 100% all the time because that is an unsustainable performance level. This means if you stay at 100% you will break something. Yes, as usual, Ford would tune the car to perform well out of the box, but some aftermarket company will undoubtably come up with a better exhaust, intake, orturbo system for the engine.
nghtrnnr 05-02-2008, 07:20 PM ORIGINAL: 5.0LitreSN95
ORIGINAL: nghtrnnr
ORIGINAL: TRBOPWR
ORIGINAL: nghtrnnr
ye gods!! are ye daft, laddy.....again and i highlight AGAIN i will explain it...you even highlighted my words and got it wrong...I KNOW WHAT YOU CAN DO WITH A TURBO ENGINE...I KNOW ABOUT ALL THE PAST TURBO CARS I SAID FORD WILL PROBABLY PROBABLY PROBABLY tweak it as much as they can out the box.......like you said...its childs play....(my god people are so determined to try and act like they know more before they even read.)
OK, laddy, you are confused. Do you honestly believe that FORD will have the cartuned toFULL potential straight out of the box? Do you REALLY believe that? If you do you are even more naive than you seem.
english is your second lanquage isnt it? ....I SAID FORD WILL PROBABLY PROBABLY PROBABLY tweak it as much as they can out the box...you cant possibly be this slow...its an act right?
Just because you throw the word "probably" in front of what you say doesn't mean you can't be wrong. actually it sort of does mean that...because i'm saying it probably could...meaning maybe it would..maybe it woudnt...but i think you missed the point... i said ford would probably want to make the v6 gt as best as they could....i know i would want to win over the v8 crowd right away....thats all i'm saying...what part of that is controversial?
SWATSCHOOL 05-02-2008, 07:29 PM IMO, they would be better with a V8.
5.0LitreSN95 05-02-2008, 08:27 PM ORIGINAL: nghtrnnr
ORIGINAL: 5.0LitreSN95
ORIGINAL: nghtrnnr
ORIGINAL: TRBOPWR
ORIGINAL: nghtrnnr
ye gods!! are ye daft, laddy.....again and i highlight AGAIN i will explain it...you even highlighted my words and got it wrong...I KNOW WHAT YOU CAN DO WITH A TURBO ENGINE...I KNOW ABOUT ALL THE PAST TURBO CARS I SAID FORD WILL PROBABLY PROBABLY PROBABLY tweak it as much as they can out the box.......like you said...its childs play....(my god people are so determined to try and act like they know more before they even read.)
OK, laddy, you are confused. Do you honestly believe that FORD will have the cartuned toFULL potential straight out of the box? Do you REALLY believe that? If you do you are even more naive than you seem.
english is your second lanquage isnt it? ....I SAID FORD WILL PROBABLY PROBABLY PROBABLY tweak it as much as they can out the box...you cant possibly be this slow...its an act right?
Just because you throw the word "probably" in front of what you say doesn't mean you can't be wrong. actually it sort of does mean that...because i'm saying it probably could...meaning maybe it would..maybe it woudnt...but i think you missed the point... i said ford would probably want to make the v6 gt as best as they could....i know i would want to win over the v8 crowd right away....thats all i'm saying...what part of that is controversial?
The part where you implied that making a well tuned high-outputV6 Gt was contradictory with the same V6 Gt still having easy room for improvement, from things like exhaust and CAI. These two can both be simultaneously true, as proven by the GT500 andcobra examples.
nghtrnnr 05-02-2008, 08:32 PM ORIGINAL: 5.0LitreSN95
ORIGINAL: nghtrnnr
ORIGINAL: 5.0LitreSN95
ORIGINAL: nghtrnnr
ORIGINAL: TRBOPWR
ORIGINAL: nghtrnnr
ye gods!! are ye daft, laddy.....again and i highlight AGAIN i will explain it...you even highlighted my words and got it wrong...I KNOW WHAT YOU CAN DO WITH A TURBO ENGINE...I KNOW ABOUT ALL THE PAST TURBO CARS I SAID FORD WILL PROBABLY PROBABLY PROBABLY tweak it as much as they can out the box.......like you said...its childs play....(my god people are so determined to try and act like they know more before they even read.)
OK, laddy, you are confused. Do you honestly believe that FORD will have the cartuned toFULL potential straight out of the box? Do you REALLY believe that? If you do you are even more naive than you seem.
english is your second lanquage isnt it? ....I SAID FORD WILL PROBABLY PROBABLY PROBABLY tweak it as much as they can out the box...you cant possibly be this slow...its an act right?
Just because you throw the word "probably" in front of what you say doesn't mean you can't be wrong. actually it sort of does mean that...because i'm saying it probably could...meaning maybe it would..maybe it woudnt...but i think you missed the point... i said ford would probably want to make the v6 gt as best as they could....i know i would want to win over the v8 crowd right away....thats all i'm saying...what part of that is controversial?
The part where you implied that making a well tuned high-outputV6 Gt was contradictory with the same V6 Gt still having easy room for improvement, from things like exhaust and CAI. These two can both be simultaneously true, as proven by the GT500 andcobra examples.
sure..uh...you do know that the exhaust on the s197 is extremely efficient and exhaust mods on the new stangs are pretty much entirely for sound, not performance....and is cai on a twin turbo all that necessary to you? did you have a point or were you just looking to stay in the race and run a few extra laps?
1990CamaroRS 05-02-2008, 11:23 PM ORIGINAL: 35thAnni99GT
^^ or maybe they will switch to running inline 6 turbo diesels for trucks too eh?
one word: CUMMINS:D
Shelty 05-03-2008, 01:47 AM ORIGINAL: Redneck97
ORIGINAL: nghtrnnr
I would take a n/a v8 engine that makes big power over a forced induction v6 thats making the same power any day of the week....a twin turbo v6 will probably be the best it can be right out of the box...wheres the fun in that? gimmeea v8 that i can reach the sky with any day of the week
I disagree.
http://www.dragtimes.com/images/7427-1987-Buick-Grand-National.jpg
Grand National FTW.
I want me one
TRBOPWR 05-03-2008, 02:48 AM nghtrnnr - I give up, apparently you are more dense than I figured.
5.0LitreSN95 - You nailed it right on the head in post #50
Shelty - Those cars are ridiculous. My dad has a T-Type (basically identical if you don't know) andthey can be made silly fast. They claim 11 second 1/4 times with 1K invested, and ithas been proven before.
nghtrnnr 05-03-2008, 02:51 AM ORIGINAL: TRBOPWR
nghtrnnr - I give up, apparently you are more dense than I figured.
5.0LitreSN95 - You nailed it right on the head in post #50
Shelty - Those cars are ridiculous. My dad has a T-Type (basically identical if you don't know) andthey can be made silly fast. They claim 11 second 1/4 times with 1K invested, and ithas been proven before.
youre the one who cant wrap your mind around a simple sentence....youre as dumb as a stump pal and I give up trying to get threw to you
1BAD3V 05-03-2008, 05:15 AM ORIGINAL: ShadowWulf
5.0L 4v mod motor
Exactly
Wishbone 05-03-2008, 08:05 AM I just read in my Car and Driver that Chevrolet is putting a 4 banger in the Camaro for a base engine. It will put out more hp than the Iroc-Z ever did. It will be a 2 liter direc-injected turbo with 260 hp. It's the same motor as the Pontiac Soltice and Saturn Sky. The 2010 Camaro will also be available with GM's direct-injected 3.6 liter V6 with 300 hp and a 6.2 liter v8 with 400 hp.
FirePower 05-03-2008, 11:34 AM ORIGINAL: Wishbone
I just read in my Car and Driver that Chevrolet is putting a 4 banger in the Camaro for a base engine. It will put out more hp than the Iroc-Z ever did. It will be a 2 liter direc-injected turbo with 260 hp. It's the same motor as the Pontiac Soltice and Saturn Sky. The 2010 Camaro will also be available with GM's direct-injected 3.6 liter V6 with 300 hp and a 6.2 liter v8 with 400 hp.
I'm with nightrunner on this one. If I was gonna buy a muscle car like the new Camaro, I'd want the 6.2 NA so I could throw a S/C on there in a few years and have a new car, fast, and sounding bad-ass.
I'm thinking the BASE Mustang should have the V6 TT! And the GT should come stock with the 5.8. And both should be under 30K!
I can dream right?
TRBOPWR 05-03-2008, 12:03 PM nghtrnnr - Reread what 5.0LitreSN95 said here, The part where you implied that making a well tuned high-outputV6 Gt was contradictory with the same V6 Gt still having easy room for improvement, from things like exhaust and CAI.
So when you say
I SAID FORD WILL PROBABLY PROBABLY PROBABLY tweak it as much as they can out the box
this tells methat in your opinionit will be as good as it can be from the factory, yes? But then you say later how you know it is super easy to make more power from a turbo car, implying this one would be the same. So to make more power out of the car so easily it would not be at full potential would it? It would not be "tweaked as much as it can be out of the box" I just see you contradicting yourself and then getting all hurt when called on it and then start throwing insults. When I think of full potential I think that if I bumped up the turbo 1-2psi the car would blow. Or a switch in intercoolers or exhaust would do absolutely nothing for me. Car manufacturers don't build their cars to that kind of level.
To answer the topic, I would definitely sport a V6TT, but honestly I don't ever see it as a replacement for the V8 GT. It could very well be an option, but I don't think Ford would ever completely cut the V8 out of the GT.
SWATSCHOOL 05-03-2008, 12:21 PM ORIGINAL: Wishbone
I just read in my Car and Driver that Chevrolet is putting a 4 banger in the Camaro for a base engine. It will put out more hp than the Iroc-Z ever did. It will be a 2 liter direc-injected turbo with 260 hp. It's the same motor as the Pontiac Soltice and Saturn Sky. The 2010 Camaro will also be available with GM's direct-injected 3.6 liter V6 with 300 hp and a 6.2 liter v8 with 400 hp.
I just read in my car and driver the year is 2008 and technology has changed. :eek:
BTW: Shrink the size of your giant creamsicle.
Wishbone 05-03-2008, 02:46 PM ORIGINAL: SWATSCHOOL
ORIGINAL: Wishbone
I just read in my Car and Driver that Chevrolet is putting a 4 banger in the Camaro for a base engine. It will put out more hp than the Iroc-Z ever did. It will be a 2 liter direc-injected turbo with 260 hp. It's the same motor as the Pontiac Soltice and Saturn Sky. The 2010 Camaro will also be available with GM's direct-injected 3.6 liter V6 with 300 hp and a 6.2 liter v8 with 400 hp.
I just read in my car and driver the year is 2008 and technology has changed. :eek:
So what's your point?
BTW: Shrink the size of your giant creamsicle.
Fixed it for you, now care to suck on it? [:-]
SWATSCHOOL 05-03-2008, 02:53 PM No cause then I would be gay as an S197 owner... [8D]
AJ03SVT 05-03-2008, 03:07 PM Nice avatar Wishbone.
I'm already swapping to a 6 cylinder twin turbo [8D]
But no, I would never drive a 6 cylinder Mustang. That just defies everything that the Mustang is for me. It would hold no value as a car if it didn't have a V8.
Wishbone 05-03-2008, 04:28 PM Boomer Sooner
I try not to limit myself so I have the '01 GT and '08 V6. Surprisingly not a whole lot of difference in power but a pretty big difference in gas mileage. Plus I can say these new V6's are smooth and quiet. It's just as quiet as my wife 4 cyl. Honda accord. So I take the Gt with Bassani out when I feel rowdy and the new V6 most other times.
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