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RE: perhaps a repost but, a little politics for anyone ... - 5/2/2008 4:28:39 PM   
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I'm just trying to piss off the old man,


how many rules of your own forum does that statement break?

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RE: perhaps a repost but, a little politics for anyone ... - 5/2/2008 6:05:26 PM   
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None.  He is a moderator, and a veteran one at that.

Seriously, you conservatives should appreciate that the person in charge, put there by the person who pays the bills, is the boss.  This is NOT a free country; this is a privately owned internet forum, and if someone trusts Red to do what he does, then so be it.


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I don't dislike blacks, jewish people, and mexicans as a whole. I only dislike the majority that I have met or know of.

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RE: perhaps a repost but, a little politics for anyone ... - 5/2/2008 6:07:49 PM   
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i personally do not like Obama for personal reasons, but i would actually like for him to give straight answers when is asked questions about the U.S. and what he plans to do when (and if) he is president.  anybody can beat around the bush and say what they might do, but only a REAL man will give you his word on what and how he will do it.  Nobody is running right now that will actually do this.  also, why do we have to be "hatin" in NM.  Its bad enough most of the "ignant" people in this country still beleive they need a passport to come here.


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RE: perhaps a repost but, a little politics for anyone ... - 5/2/2008 6:12:23 PM   
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The point is I definitely don't see myself as superior to anyone because of the school I went to,



Neither was Red, or anyone else here.  What he IS judging you on is your own post, and your own posting of the video, and your own statements that it is an intelligent, well made video with good political points, when the political points include that his name is Muslim sounding and his dad was African and his mom was white.  None of those things are intelligent political points.  If you had posted a link to some sort of thoughtful analysis of Obama's proposed health care, or a link to the current debate over the gas tax roll-back that Clinton and McCain support, or even some sort of thoughtful post about how a man can have a pastor, and a pastor he called a spiritual advisor, and then this man can sound so radical... any of those would be totally different.  But come on; as I mentioned earlier, when someone who is as obvious as Ann Coulter literally calls the guy "President Hussein" (no one has ever called the last one "President Herbert Walker..."  EVER...) it is clear the post was likely made as A) some sort of wierd trolling for a fight or B) by a stupid person.


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I don't dislike blacks, jewish people, and mexicans as a whole. I only dislike the majority that I have met or know of.

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RE: perhaps a repost but, a little politics for anyone ... - 5/2/2008 6:25:18 PM   
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 i dont agree with the video...i also seriously dont agree with anyone in a position of authority who acts like a schoolyard bully... think about it...and ashram, you gave a very thoughtout and meaningful statement that was totally cheapened by trying to defend what cant be defended and that is any authority figure that props himself up by trying to tear others down

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RE: perhaps a repost but, a little politics for anyone ... - 5/2/2008 9:18:01 PM   
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while the video is not a thoughtful analysis, it does call attention to some interesting things.

"i think my grandmother is a typical white woman who..."

just as the video says, imagine what would happen to mccain if he said "i think my grandmother is a typical black woman..."

and btw these were in reference to the fact that Obama's grandmother said she feared black men when they passed her on the street, and uttered racial and ethnic slurs... he then went on to say "my point was not that my grandmother harbors any anti-black animosity, she doesn't"....... uhhh

just for those who didnt see the clip



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RE: perhaps a repost but, a little politics for anyone ... - 5/2/2008 9:24:20 PM   
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The point is I definitely don't see myself as superior to anyone because of the school I went to,



Neither was Red, or anyone else here.  What he IS judging you on is your own post, and your own posting of the video, and your own statements that it is an intelligent, well made video with good political points, when the political points include that his name is Muslim sounding and his dad was African and his mom was white.  None of those things are intelligent political points.  If you had posted a link to some sort of thoughtful analysis of Obama's proposed health care, or a link to the current debate over the gas tax roll-back that Clinton and McCain support, or even some sort of thoughtful post about how a man can have a pastor, and a pastor he called a spiritual advisor, and then this man can sound so radical... any of those would be totally different.  But come on; as I mentioned earlier, when someone who is as obvious as Ann Coulter literally calls the guy "President Hussein" (no one has ever called the last one "President Herbert Walker..."  EVER...) it is clear the post was likely made as A) some sort of wierd trolling for a fight or B) by a stupid person.



Well I fully stand by my original post that said there are some ridiculously good points in the video,  that is hardly an endorsement of the entire video, although i will admit i don't like te idea of a president with a muslim name. To be honest nothing I have posted should have diminished my intelligence by any means, obviously my post could be scrutinized to make me look like a complete wacko but so could yours or anyone elses. Then discussion of the thread which has changed from the first post to the last post, and just to point out I did not start any personal attacks on members of the forum but I will not just take them either hints a few responses.... nor did I edit anyone elses post... Whatever is said goes it is off topic right?  You keep just saying Ann Coulter that was five seconds of the video? How about Hannity's portion? Did you watch the video?

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RE: perhaps a repost but, a little politics for anyone ... - 5/3/2008 6:08:21 AM   
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I'm voting for Obama and Good Day!

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RE: perhaps a repost but, a little politics for anyone ... - 5/3/2008 7:57:53 AM   
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RE: perhaps a repost but, a little politics for anyone ... - 5/3/2008 10:18:02 AM   
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because hes a better candidate than the other 2

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RE: perhaps a repost but, a little politics for anyone ... - 5/3/2008 11:26:13 AM   
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ORIGINAL: redass02gt

I suppose you think people from devry should be in charge of the world.   



kindof like how a large portion of people from pat robertsons regent university actually were running the united states¿
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Graduates of the law school have been among the most influential of the more than 150 Regent University alumni hired to federal government positions since President Bush took office in 2001

http://www.boston.com/news/education/higher/articles/2007/04/08/scandal_puts_spotlight_on_christian_law_school/


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RE: perhaps a repost but, a little politics for anyone ... - 5/3/2008 11:26:53 AM   
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I'm voting for Obama and Good Day!


Setting his mentors aside, and his name, what political views of his makes you want to vote for him?


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RE: perhaps a repost but, a little politics for anyone ... - 5/3/2008 1:19:55 PM   
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ORIGINAL: nghtrnnr

i dont agree with the video...i also seriously dont agree with anyone in a position of authority who acts like a schoolyard bully... think about it...and ashram, you gave a very thoughtout and meaningful statement that was totally cheapened by trying to defend what cant be defended and that is any authority figure that props himself up by trying to tear others down


if you don't like it, don't let the door hit you on the ass on the way out.  do you actually think anyone will miss you here?  


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RE: perhaps a repost but, a little politics for anyone ... - 5/3/2008 1:22:07 PM   
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i dont agree with the video...i also seriously dont agree with anyone in a position of authority who acts like a schoolyard bully... think about it...and ashram, you gave a very thoughtout and meaningful statement that was totally cheapened by trying to defend what cant be defended and that is any authority figure that props himself up by trying to tear others down


if you don't like it, don't let the door hit you on the ass on the way out.  do you actually think anyone will miss you here?  

lol...thanks...i rest my case

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RE: perhaps a repost but, a little politics for anyone ... - 5/3/2008 1:28:20 PM   
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yeah, I'm clearly being a bully by telling you that if you don't like the way things are done around here, you should get the **** out instead of whining like a baby. 

I suppose you go out to eat, hate the food, bitch about it to the manager, and then come back the next week for more of the same, huh?


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RE: perhaps a repost but, a little politics for anyone ... - 5/3/2008 1:37:31 PM   
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yeah, I'm clearly being a bully by telling you that if you don't like the way things are done around here, you should get the **** out instead of whining like a baby. 

I suppose you go out to eat, hate the food, bitch about it to the manager, and then come back the next week for more of the same, huh?

  actually a better analogy would be :
its a great restaurant with tons of good food, but their cheeseburger sucks...therefore, you just ignore the lousy cheeseburger on the menu and concentrate on the rest....i'll have the amanda steak, the joolander lobster and the hb fries...they can throw the redmeat cheeseburger in the trash




try and concentrate on number 2.
2. While debating and discussion is fine, respect your fellow enthusiasts. Being of a diverse background, members are likely to express different opinions, and while opinions may differ from yours, they are just that, opinions; and everyone is entitled to express theirs freely. We will not tolerate rudeness, insulting posts, or personal attacks. Do not flame, bother, bug, disrespect, hound or taunt ANYONE on the forums or through private messaging or chat room. If we feel a thread is getting out of hand we will close or delete it. You can/will lose your posting privileges if you continue this type of behavior.



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RE: perhaps a repost but, a little politics for anyone ... - 5/3/2008 1:40:46 PM   
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ORIGINAL: nghtrnnr

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yeah, I'm clearly being a bully by telling you that if you don't like the way things are done around here, you should get the **** out instead of whining like a baby. 

I suppose you go out to eat, hate the food, bitch about it to the manager, and then come back the next week for more of the same, huh?

  actually a better analogy would be :
its a great restaurant with tons of good food, but their cheeseburger sucks...therefore, you just ignore the lousy cheeseburger on the menu and concentrate on the rest....i'll have the amanda steak, the joolander lobster and the hb fries...they can throw the redmeat cheeseburger in the trash


you got it all wrong, as usual.  in soviet MF, you don't pick the entree, the entree picks you. 


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RE: perhaps a repost but, a little politics for anyone ... - 5/3/2008 1:46:38 PM   
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hahahahaha

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RE: perhaps a repost but, a little politics for anyone ... - 5/3/2008 1:54:54 PM   
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ORIGINAL: nghtrnnr

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ORIGINAL: redass02gt

yeah, I'm clearly being a bully by telling you that if you don't like the way things are done around here, you should get the **** out instead of whining like a baby. 

I suppose you go out to eat, hate the food, bitch about it to the manager, and then come back the next week for more of the same, huh?

  actually a better analogy would be :
its a great restaurant with tons of good food, but their cheeseburger sucks...therefore, you just ignore the lousy cheeseburger on the menu and concentrate on the rest....i'll have the amanda steak, the joolander lobster and the hb fries...they can throw the redmeat cheeseburger in the trash




try and concentrate on number 2.
2. While debating and discussion is fine, respect your fellow enthusiasts. Being of a diverse background, members are likely to express different opinions, and while opinions may differ from yours, they are just that, opinions; and everyone is entitled to express theirs freely. We will not tolerate rudeness, insulting posts, or personal attacks. Do not flame, bother, bug, disrespect, hound or taunt ANYONE on the forums or through private messaging or chat room. If we feel a thread is getting out of hand we will close or delete it. You can/will lose your posting privileges if you continue this type of behavior.




Very good analogy and a nice pull from perhaps, the rules section?

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you got it all wrong, as usual.  in soviet MF, you don't pick the entree, the entree picks you. 


Is this part of that superior thing you were talking about? Didn't you say earlier people have the right to leave ? That does not sound very soviet to me, well unless you start banning people?


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RE: perhaps a repost but, a little politics for anyone ... - 5/3/2008 2:02:07 PM   
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I love how you keep posting the rules as thought you've actually read all of them.  rule 13 is by far the best read, if you axe me.

apparently, in soviet MF, yakov smirnov jokes don't understand you. 




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