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RE: perhaps a repost but, a little politics for anyone ... - 4/30/2008 11:35:29 PM   
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you gotta be ****ting me.  

I only got through five minutes of that because i didn't feel like having my intelligence insulted any longer.  I'd love to see the John McCain version of that.  Are there really no better reasons to not vote for obama besides, "OMG He has not one, not two, but THREE arab-ass names, muthafucka!"

some of the things in that video make me want to vote for the guy even more...  the words speech was a good point, and his wife has a good point about not being proud of her country for a long time, if ever.  when was the last time we did anything good?  when we helped Kuwait? 

FACT:  McCain falls asleep in congressional meetings cause he doesn't care about the world and he was busy dreaming about killing children.  sounds pretty stupid no matter which party you do that to.


Definitely not ****Ting- what does the t stand for?

The whole point not to vote for him was not ecause he has three arab names, perhaps if you watched more than five minutes you would have known that... That fact that that makes you want to vote for him more is interesting, perhaps a presidential candidates background means nothing to you but it should. You are right what has America done thats good besides give you a good life, a chance to drive a mustang, security that a mortor is not gonna be dropped on your house, oh thats right and protecting Israel is wrong too or perhaps freedom that you partake of on a day to day basis sucks as well? America has its problem no denying that, but regardless they do more for the world than any other country. The problem is that people don't think about this kinda stuff and we could perhaps end up with a socialist, perhaps a communist president such as Obama.

Is McCain the perfect Candidate perhaps not but I definitely would feel more secure about the future of America with him rather than with either of the other candidates that are a complete joke. IMO ...

Not really meant to piss you off but apparently it did?





how do you feel about the time Israel attacked the US on june 8th 1967 i think it was




how about america would never have been attacked ever if they just kept their ****ing hands out of peoples business , never put up national bases , never aided the allys in WW2...

ignorant ass.

look at Canada no one gives a **** about them and they are the safest ****s around because there arent arrogant ass US IMPERIALISTS trying to police the world.

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RE: OBAMA SUCKS!! - 4/30/2008 11:52:07 PM   
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This video will probably offend people who are liberal but they make some ridiculously great points. Can you really be dismissive of these FACTS with documented Obama responses?

http://www.primetimepolitics.com/primetime/site/video/the_case_against_obama/

Even if you dont like the vid HE SUCKS!!!!




Hmmm... do you know what bias information is?


I never claimed to be anything other than bias, Political correctness is not my thing.


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RE: perhaps a repost but, a little politics for anyone ... - 5/1/2008 12:02:31 AM   
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you gotta be ****ting me.  

I only got through five minutes of that because i didn't feel like having my intelligence insulted any longer.  I'd love to see the John McCain version of that.  Are there really no better reasons to not vote for obama besides, "OMG He has not one, not two, but THREE arab-ass names, muthafucka!"

some of the things in that video make me want to vote for the guy even more...  the words speech was a good point, and his wife has a good point about not being proud of her country for a long time, if ever.  when was the last time we did anything good?  when we helped Kuwait? 

FACT:  McCain falls asleep in congressional meetings cause he doesn't care about the world and he was busy dreaming about killing children.  sounds pretty stupid no matter which party you do that to.


Definitely not ****Ting- what does the t stand for?

The whole point not to vote for him was not ecause he has three arab names, perhaps if you watched more than five minutes you would have known that... That fact that that makes you want to vote for him more is interesting, perhaps a presidential candidates background means nothing to you but it should. You are right what has America done thats good besides give you a good life, a chance to drive a mustang, security that a mortor is not gonna be dropped on your house, oh thats right and protecting Israel is wrong too or perhaps freedom that you partake of on a day to day basis sucks as well? America has its problem no denying that, but regardless they do more for the world than any other country. The problem is that people don't think about this kinda stuff and we could perhaps end up with a socialist, perhaps a communist president such as Obama.

Is McCain the perfect Candidate perhaps not but I definitely would feel more secure about the future of America with him rather than with either of the other candidates that are a complete joke. IMO ...

Not really meant to piss you off but apparently it did?





how do you feel about the time Israel attacked the US on june 8th 1967 i think it was



UNfortunately I was not there, but I will research the matter and get back to you. From what I do understand is that The ship Liberty was bombed in what was said to be a mistake? Hard to believe but it could be possible? I will have to look more into this? It still does not change the main point that America does great things and always will either be praised or chastised for it.


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RE: perhaps a repost but, a little politics for anyone ... - 5/1/2008 12:07:18 AM   
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how about america would never have been attacked ever if they just kept their ****ing hands out of peoples business , never put up national bases , never aided the allys in WW2...

ignorant ass.

look at Canada no one gives a **** about them and they are the safest ****s around because there arent arrogant ass US IMPERIALISTS trying to police the world.

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Intersting thought about Canada but I think the main  reasons no one touches them or Mexico is because the U.S. would be so quick to interfere, it is not because they never get into peoples business, we have seen coutries in history get dominated for no reason, well unless you consider things like genocide a (good) reason?

Were you being sarcastic when you said we should have stayed out of WW2?


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RE: perhaps a repost but, a little politics for anyone ... - 5/1/2008 12:45:56 AM   
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If you don't like Obama then don't vote for him. That video was pathetic BTW.
However I can never EVER see myself voting for flip-flopping John McSame who gives me nothing as president of the United States.

1) John McCain wants to keep the tax cuts that he called "irresponsible" and "hurt his conscious." These same tax cuts have brought us into greater defecits and increased inflation. FACT
2) John McCain has voted 7 times against Veterans benefit packages bills but says he supports veterans. FACT
3) John McCain was Pro-abortion and now he is against it. FACT
4) John McCain took 13 seconds to flip-flop on gay marriage. FACT.
5) John McCain does not want to give me Universal health care, instead he wants people to continue with a system that discriminates against people with genetically predetermined diseases. FACT.
6) John McCain wants us to stay in the Iraq even though 70% of Americans dont. FACT.
7) John McCain says he is against torture but yet is for waterboading. FACT.
8) John McCain says he supports our troops but has voted against the GI bill in congress. FACT.
9) John McCain wants to impose a "Gas Holiday" but offers no way to make up for the funds that keep our highways repaired and bridges built...and the 317,000 jobs that would lost because of this "gas holiday". FACT.
10) John McCain says he was never for Amnesty but yet he specifically sponsored a bill that created amnesty for illegals. FACT.

Give me Obama ANYDAY of the week over Flip Flopping John McSame.

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RE: perhaps a repost but, a little politics for anyone ... - 5/1/2008 1:04:40 AM   
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all i know is univeral health care would suck, I don't want to have to wait for 2 weeks to get an appointment just because now EVERYONE can go to the doctor, and since they have that priveledge they will go for the stupidest things that don't need a doctor to be taken care off.

and why are you talking about mccain being for the war even though 70% of americans are against it when 70% of americans were FOR the war back around 9/11. maybe a lot of americans are flip floppers themselves

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RE: perhaps a repost but, a little politics for anyone ... - 5/1/2008 1:50:10 AM   
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Obama Rules!
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RE: perhaps a repost but, a little politics for anyone ... - 5/1/2008 4:03:01 AM   
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you know Mccain has a son in Iraq right? And he himself is a veteran?

I agree about your thoughts on McCain Lizard, but he is the best I have been offered.


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RE: perhaps a repost but, a little politics for anyone ... - 5/1/2008 4:21:47 AM   
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all i know is univeral health care would suck, I don't want to have to wait for 2 weeks to get an appointment just because now EVERYONE can go to the doctor, and since they have that priveledge they will go for the stupidest things that don't need a doctor to be taken care off.

and why are you talking about mccain being for the war even though 70% of americans are against it when 70% of americans were FOR the war back around 9/11. maybe a lot of americans are flip floppers themselves


How do people actually  know this? America has its own way of setting things up. Just because it sucks for other countries dosnt mean its going to fall the same route...

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RE: perhaps a repost but, a little politics for anyone ... - 5/1/2008 4:24:57 AM   
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"If you think healthcare is expensive now...just wait till its free...."

And the reason why it would suck is because of its basic principle...It eliminates competition in that industry, and it employs the gov't to do the whole job... Do you really want the gov't running ANOTHER part of your life? I know I don't.....


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RE: perhaps a repost but, a little politics for anyone ... - 5/1/2008 4:31:03 AM   
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"If you think healthcare is expensive now...just wait till its free...."

And the reason why it would suck is because of its basic principle...It eliminates competition in that industry, and it employs the gov't to do the whole job... Do you really want the gov't running ANOTHER part of your life? I know I don't.....



You mean a part of it i dont even have time to think about right now in my busy little life? The way i look at it is, its something that will be provided by the gov that a lot of people cant obtain themselves....

If someone can really break it down for me, im willing to listen...?

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RE: perhaps a repost but, a little politics for anyone ... - 5/1/2008 4:33:02 AM   
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when 70% of americans were FOR the war back around 9/11.
 

thats not true....we were for the afghan war after 9-11.....history is being rewritten already...lol....as i recall, most americans were protesting when the bush gave sadaam that deadline....lets get that straight

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RE: perhaps a repost but, a little politics for anyone ... - 5/1/2008 4:41:21 AM   
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How do people actually  know this? America has its own way of setting things up. Just because it sucks for other countries dosnt mean its going to fall the same route...


Find me one program that is run by the Government that is not screwed up and you MIGHT have an arguement. Until then, I will keep paying for my own, because when OUR governmnent starts running anything, they always F it up.


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RE: perhaps a repost but, a little politics for anyone ... - 5/1/2008 5:27:56 AM   
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How do people actually  know this? America has its own way of setting things up. Just because it sucks for other countries dosnt mean its going to fall the same route...


Find me one program that is run by the Government that is not screwed up and you MIGHT have an arguement. Until then, I will keep paying for my own, because when OUR governmnent starts running anything, they always F it up.




gee, thanks for breaking it down for me...

But hey, i get gov funding to go to school, which allows me to eat and put gas in my car and wash my cloths....literally, if it wasnt for that id be on the ramen diet. So there's some light in that tunnel for my "argument"...i didnt even know i was arguing something

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RE: perhaps a repost but, a little politics for anyone ... - 5/1/2008 5:43:05 AM   
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How do people actually  know this? America has its own way of setting things up. Just because it sucks for other countries dosnt mean its going to fall the same route...


Find me one program that is run by the Government that is not screwed up and you MIGHT have an arguement. Until then, I will keep paying for my own, because when OUR governmnent starts running anything, they always F it up.




gee, thanks for breaking it down for me...

But hey, i get gov funding to go to school, which allows me to eat and put gas in my car and wash my cloths....literally, if it wasnt for that id be on the ramen diet. So there's some light in that tunnel for my "argument"...i didnt even know i was arguing something


I was not argueing anything, just stating my opinion, and as for your school funding, just because it works for YOU, does not mean the system is not messed up. Food stamps and welfare work for some people to ya know, but they are screwed up.


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RE: perhaps a repost but, a little politics for anyone ... - 5/1/2008 5:58:04 AM   
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What a nice poll...

It really gives us a chance to state our opinions...




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RE: perhaps a repost but, a little politics for anyone ... - 5/1/2008 6:07:30 AM   
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How do people actually  know this? America has its own way of setting things up. Just because it sucks for other countries dosnt mean its going to fall the same route...


Find me one program that is run by the Government that is not screwed up and you MIGHT have an arguement. Until then, I will keep paying for my own, because when OUR governmnent starts running anything, they always F it up.




gee, thanks for breaking it down for me...

But hey, i get gov funding to go to school, which allows me to eat and put gas in my car and wash my cloths....literally, if it wasnt for that id be on the ramen diet. So there's some light in that tunnel for my "argument"...i didnt even know i was arguing something


I was not argueing anything, just stating my opinion, and as for your school funding, just because it works for YOU, does not mean the system is not messed up. Food stamps and welfare work for some people to ya know, but they are screwed up.



sorry, you put "you might have an argument", so i assumed you assumed i was arguing...

True, it does work for me, but isnt that what the health issue about to most people....how it'll work for them individually?

But what i wanted to know is why it would be so messed up (aside from the fact that the goc will be running it). What would happen???

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RE: perhaps a repost but, a little politics for anyone ... - 5/1/2008 6:56:39 AM   
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this video is ****, im probably the most conservative poster yet.

Israel attacking USS Liberty
blue on Blue fire, Uss liberty was not to go withing 300miles of Sanai, and instead went 12.5 their fault....America would've done the same thing cept we'da sunk that ****


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RE: perhaps a repost but, a little politics for anyone ... - 5/1/2008 7:00:33 AM   
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OH BTW are we voting that the video sucks?!? or Obama, i think both do, but the video is worse than Obama

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RE: perhaps a repost but, a little politics for anyone ... - 5/1/2008 7:15:40 AM   
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Damn.  Just....damn.

Not proud of America? 

You are not proud to have liberated millions, of Afghanis from under the heel of the Taliban?  Ask the Afghani women if their life is not better relieved of the Taliban.

You are not proud of the fact that Sadaam no longer is running state sponsored rape rooms and filling mass graves with people and then burying them alive?  You are  not proud of the fact that we have spent billions helping the victims of tsunamis, earthquakes and floods around the world?  Who else does this?  Who?  Nobody does it anywhere close to the scale on which we do it.

No country in the history of this planet has had as much power and wielded it more benevolently (sp?) than the United States has.  We have fed and provided medicine for billions on this planet who otherwise would have gone without.  We have lifted the yoke of tyranny from untold billions.  We, as a nation, have elevated the international standard of living beyond what most would have believed possible even 50 years ago.

I shudder to think what this world would look like were it not for America.  Europe entirely encased behind the Iron Curtain or more likely, still under control of the Third Reich.  The entire western Pacific, to include Austrailia, under the control of the Empire of Japan. Talk to people who lived under Japanese rule.  Absolutely tragic and hideous conditions.   You laugh, but who else could have defeated them? Who?

Most of you are too young to remember just what a very real threat the Communists, facists, and dictators were/are.

Were the United States not there to stem the tide of evil governents there would have been no stopping their advancement.  For those of you who dismiss this and say, 'so what', go visit a communist country. Go see just what it is like to live under constant fear and REAL oppression is like.  Go live in a country where the police state controls your every action and thought.  I have seen this with my own eyes and would suggest many of you do the same for your own education.

It is easy to look at the world from the nice, safe, cozy bubble in which we live and talk about how terrible we are.  But once you get beyond our borders, and our allies borders the world becomes a much different and much more dangerous place.

While we may be far from perfect, we have done MUCH to be proud of. We have provided the good people of this world hope while giving the enemies of freedom and self-determiniation very real reason for pause.


May God continue to Bless America, in spite of the liberal/social attempts to secure the contrary.

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