Welp I have this kid who just challenged me to a race. He drives an s2k. And well apparently he brags about how its faster then my GT.He put a catback exhaust on it so I don't know. Well he wants to go from a dig. My mustang is an auto and his is a stick . I also didn't do much to the stang but ran a 14.5 in a 1/4 on my 2nd pass. It had BBK pulleys in it during that run thats it. RecentlyI just reflashed the ecu with the diablo tuner factory upgrade. And so far I'm waiting to get these 3.90s installed. I also have an H pipe for it but both those 2 key parts aren't in the car and are just sitting in my bedroom floor.[:@]I'm pretty sure I can see 14.4 with the reflash now perhaps or squeeze a 14.3... But what do you guys think? should I just wait to get the gears and H pipe and murder him? or can I beat him now?? His is a 2001...

You might wanna wait till you have gears and the h pipe.

My moneys on you winning.

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You might wanna wait till you have gears and the h pipe.


Dang really ? :( how bad can he take me?

If you expect low to mid 14s out of your car I'd say it's a drivers race.

Thanks blue^ Very knowledgeable. What do these cars run stock anyone know?

I think an intake/tb should do the trick BUT i really want these gears on. And I have too look for some sensors for the H pipe otherwise this damn check engine light will come on :*(.

But if anyone knows what these cars run stock in a 1/4 2001 be real helpful thanks!

It could potentially go either way. With gears and the h pipe you're chances will be better, but still not a garunteed win.

I raced one ngiht, twice, idk what year it was, probably around 01. I saw him behind me at a light, i went in second n went slow till he got in the other lane n saw him commin n i punched it and we were neck and neck until 100 then we caught the next light. We were both like what the hell you got in that thing.

Anyways im not the greatest stick driver yet but the hardest part for me is launching it. We went at the light and he was in teh merge lane, i told him if it was real close i would let him get infront of me so i wouldnt make him crash for the W lol

We take off at the light and my **** went completely sideways, i thought i was gonna hit his car, anyways i finally hooked up n he was right on my passenger side door. I had him but he kept rolling when he shoulda merged and i let off so he could get in the lane

Anyways if i raced n didnt dump it liek a dumbass i shoulda had a way better lead. Those are light which really help them launch...

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Thanks blue^ Very knowledgeable. What do these cars run stock anyone know?

I think an intake/tb should do the trick BUT i really want these gears on. And I have too look for some sensors for the H pipe otherwise this damn check engine light will come on :*(.

But if anyone knows what these cars run stock in a 1/4 2001 be real helpful thanks!
Motor trend got a 13.8 out of the club racer edition recently. I've never seen them break out of the mid 14s though in person. Gears and exhaust work should give you the advantage.

ive heard a HONDATA tune will make miracles for very tall engine coolant (VTEC) cars, are u sure he does not have one of those!!!

My friend has an 01 S2K and we have raced a few times. With your mods is a drivers race for sure. My mods are in my sig and my friend has an intake and catback on his S2k. We raced twice from a dig. I won the first race by a car and I lost the second one by a car lol. I got loose in 2nd gear on the second race. We also went from a 40 roll and I had him by a half of a car till 110 mph and then he started pulling away so I slowed down(not a fan of street racing). So to sum it up, get a good launch and don't break it loose in second gear and you should take him by a car or so.

my .02

Here is a video of the dig races at the track if you are interested...

http://youtube.com/watch?v=jI6XfFffWcc

Depends how good a driver he is. If he's good I could definetly see him winning. If he's OK then id say slight edge to you. If he sucks then youll crush. Race him now an see what happens, if you lose just race him again later too

It really depends now. I think it's going to be a drivers race. If he threw on that exhaust without a tune he is deffinatly loosing power. Even with a tune, he's probably not making more than 5 more horsepower. S2ks come from the factory very, very finely tuned. Doing boltons and trying to get horsepower out of them is like trying to squeeze water from a rock. I read an article where Honda said they couldn't get anymore horsepower out of it without going FI. Not sure which model year they were talking about though, but they were comparing it with the NISMO 350Z. I raced my buddys s2k 6 times one night in my Z ( low 14 second car) the first two times we were dead even. One time he pulled on me, the next I pulled on him, then we swapped cars, and I pulled on him in the S, the next race he pulled on me with the Z. Drivers race I guess.

Hmmm....well I mean its just a pullied gt 2004 with a diablo tune so nothing spectacular. I'll run him this weekend and hopefully I'll do ok. Its just a cat-back exhaust from what I am hearing nothing fantastic. If I get this intake and Tb on I think I'll take him np.

**UPDATE**&

Well today I ran into one of his s2k crew members lol

He comes up and is like "You gonna race blain? hes going to rape you"

I'm like "i AIN'T worried , imma put the dick on both him and you if you want it" so he drives and 03 s2k. Factory, we're on the road Im doing about 20 mph in gear "1" and the car infront of us turn and there is no cars ahead of us for now...we HIT it, and I started to pull a car ahead of him instantly, then when I think I'm about to terminate his ass a car pulls infront and I slow down, he does the vtec drive by and super over rev's his **** lol....and when I mean super I mean these cars are hard as hell to over rev and he accomplish that np. Now I think to myself "hmmm I wonder if we would of kepted going from a 20 mph roll could I have gotton him?" Than I say to myself "I really need to get these gears on " so this weekend I'm putting the gears on next chance I get. Wish me luck guys, I think I should ask him to go from a 20 mph if thats any good, but some people tell me it ain't good for an auto mustang...[&:]

I wouldn't take him from a 20 roll. High redline plus short gears equals death for you unless you get geared.

You'd prolly have a better chance from a dig being RWD with a torquey V8. The s2K engine revs really high, so it may not be the easiest thing to launch, even though it is RWD.

Definetly go from a dig. S2000's have no torque, which means your gonna take him off the line. Goin from a roll just gives him an advantage

I'd say it will be a drivers race as we stand now with the edge to him if he can drive. Get the gears, h-pipe and new tune and I'm gonna give it to you.

From what I hear(this from a S2000 owner/friend of mine) you have to launch the living **** out of it to get it moving from a dig. Says even like a 5000 launch usually results in a bog. I don't see many people willing to launch more agressive than that so from a dig as your car sits right now it should be a close race.

From a roll he'll more than likely get you. I ran my said friend from a 40 roll and the results were inconclusive. My car was too loud to hear the honks(not lying lol) so we'd just punch it when we saw the other guy move. This was with me off the bottle and it was pretty close with me perhaps putting at most a car length on him.

if his car is a regular untuned s2000 i say u should take him

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From what I hear(this from a S2000 owner/friend of mine) you have to launch the living **** out of it to get it moving from a dig. Says even like a 5000 launch usually results in a bog. I don't see many people willing to launch more agressive than that so from a dig as your car sits right now it should be a close race.

From a roll he'll more than likely get you. I ran my said friend from a 40 roll and the results were inconclusive. My car was too loud to hear the honks(not lying lol) so we'd just punch it when we saw the other guy move. This was with me off the bottle and it was pretty close with me perhaps putting at most a car length on him.



Christ...damn wish me luck than Im really hoping I can take him...I hate to lose to a honda.

tell him to put his top down and race :)

scg would be all over this thread <wipes tear>.

umm im not sure b/c of the automatic predicament that your in..but with my mods i raced one and had about 4-5 car lengths on him...he then told me that he had his t.control on sowe did another but same results....and about your 02 sensors...if you have a diablo tuner just use that to take off your check engine light!!! dont waste your money on sensors

s2ks run mid 14s and i would honestly think your car should be faster then a 14.5 in all reality it is a drivers race just put your foot down as hard as you can and hope you dont get owned by a honda lol

Well, there's worst things than bieng owned by a Honda, you could be getting owned by an Acura! JK. Anyhow, race him. I want to hear the details.

S2K's run mid 14's with terrible drivers

Ok guys. Tonight is the big night. So I am off to race the s2k. I don't have the gears on . And we're gonna go from a dig. So wish me luck!

just take him from a dig till you hit 30mph then hit your flashers. take next right and easey kill

LOL We just ran. I got pulled was interesting though because I found out exactly what he has.


Apparently he has a built tranny , and ran a 13.8 was his best time at the tracks.... So he took me I had him off the line no doubt. Till about 2nd he was creeping 3rd he already had a length and a half on me lol. Dang. Well off to put on the 3.90s gears/H pipe. Than I we shall see. Keep in mind this is an auto GT.

I guess hopefully Ill be running high 13s mid 13s as well with those mods... Damn

wait for the gears....

my prayers are with you [&:]

s2ks can be nasty little buggers. I'm not sure what a built trannys gonna do for him other then maybe he can drop the clutch and not worry about it (although I knew a guy who did that and broke an axle). He doesn't have enough power to warrent the B. Tranny, but who knows.

Im gonna guess that he has some big plans for the car if he's got a built tranny. Good race, after the gears you oughtta be able to win

I raced a guy in a supercharged h2k with the full greddy exhaust and I held my own, they are fast though, you have to know if he has a turbo or not before you race

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I raced a guy in a supercharged h2k with the full greddy exhaust and I held my own, they are fast though, you have to know if he has a turbo or not before you race


I hope you dont mean in your stock 4.0[&:] A S/C S2k oughtta be running 13 flat... around 2 full seconds faster in the quarter

lol agreed. 13 flat would be a very conservative time too for a supercharged s2k.

there are a bunch of different GT Vs s2000 races on you tube. all have different outcomes. i would be nervous racing one from anything but a dig. Also , i hear that there are two different s2000 engines, ah who cares

i gotta guy in my parking lot at my apt with a vert sk2k, always looking my car up and down........

ive talked to him, never about racing, but idk, he said "thouse 5.0s can be scary to drive" guess that means hes scared of my car.


good luck with the gears........ i have an auto too........ swaping to a t5 ASAP

:)UPDATE ONCE again.

Well I got a quote to install my 3.90s gears with a diablo tune upgrade once installed for 350 :) not a bad price! They are Motorsport gears so hopefully Ill be in the 13s with that the diablo tune and my pullies! I wish my GT was a 5 speed :(

i payed $275, but from a buddy of mine that work in a performance shop.

$350 is a pretty good price though!


gl, let us know how the car feels afterwords.

i went from 2.73's to 4.10's and it was a gigantic difference.

I'd do the install yourself and then just have them tune it for the gears....since that's the "tune" they're talking about. Actually, I'd live with speedo being off until I could buy a Diablo for myself. I'm sure they're only $300-400 bucks. That way you'd only spend $100 bucks or so on the gear swap, then you could use the Diablo however you wanted, or even save that money and get a custom dyno tune, which I recommend 100%.

Don't let working on your own car scare you. There is a whole wealth of information available at your fingertips....literally.

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I'd do the install yourself and then just have them tune it for the gears....since that's the "tune" they're talking about. Actually, I'd live with speedo being off until I could buy a Diablo for myself. I'm sure they're only $300-400 bucks. That way you'd only spend $100 bucks or so on the gear swap, then you could use the Diablo however you wanted, or even save that money and get a custom dyno tune, which I recommend 100%.

Don't let working on your own car scare you. There is a whole wealth of information available at your fingertips....literally.

I've never had to do it myself but can a handheld correct your speedo also?

ORIGINAL: michaelsevilla

**UPDATE**&

Well today I ran into one of his s2k crew members lol

He comes up and is like "You gonna race blain? hes going to rape you"

I'm like "i AIN'T worried , imma put the dick on both him and you if you want it" so he drives and 03 s2k. Factory, we're on the road Im doing about 20 mph in gear "1" and the car infront of us turn and there is no cars ahead of us for now...we HIT it, and I started to pull a car ahead of him instantly, then when I think I'm about to terminate his ass a car pulls infront and I slow down, he does the vtec drive by and super over rev's his **** lol....and when I mean super I mean these cars are hard as hell to over rev and he accomplish that np. Now I think to myself "hmmm I wonder if we would of kepted going from a 20 mph roll could I have gotton him?" Than I say to myself "I really need to get these gears on " so this weekend I'm putting the gears on next chance I get. Wish me luck guys, I think I should ask him to go from a 20 mph if thats any good, but some people tell me it ain't good for an auto mustang...[&:]


Roll racing is lame and further more the S2000 has the quickest acceleration for passing speeds in a given year (up until the 04 I believe) even over the Vette. (I.E. it accelerates faster from 40-65 and 50-70 than any other car) C&D and Motortrend both confirmed it. Vette of comparable years was .2 secondsslower or something so a mustang wouldn't touch it.

And don't get me started on the weight difference. 2800 measly pounds for the S2000 vs the piggish GT at around 3400 lbs. I love GT's but an S2000 will give a new edge GT with a slush box a run.

I've raced one more or less stock, he had exhaust. And I edged out a win while 350lbs heavy. I'd say you'd win.

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ORIGINAL: michaelsevilla

**UPDATE**&

Well today I ran into one of his s2k crew members lol

He comes up and is like "You gonna race blain? hes going to rape you"

I'm like "i AIN'T worried , imma put the dick on both him and you if you want it" so he drives and 03 s2k. Factory, we're on the road Im doing about 20 mph in gear "1" and the car infront of us turn and there is no cars ahead of us for now...we HIT it, and I started to pull a car ahead of him instantly, then when I think I'm about to terminate his ass a car pulls infront and I slow down, he does the vtec drive by and super over rev's his **** lol....and when I mean super I mean these cars are hard as hell to over rev and he accomplish that np. Now I think to myself "hmmm I wonder if we would of kepted going from a 20 mph roll could I have gotton him?" Than I say to myself "I really need to get these gears on " so this weekend I'm putting the gears on next chance I get. Wish me luck guys, I think I should ask him to go from a 20 mph if thats any good, but some people tell me it ain't good for an auto mustang...[&:]


Roll racing is lame and further more the S2000 has the quickest acceleration for passing speeds in a given year (up until the 04 I believe) even over the Vette. (I.E. it accelerates faster from 40-65 and 50-70 than any other car) C&D and Motortrend both confirmed it. Vette of comparable years was .2 secondsslower or something so a mustang wouldn't touch it.

And don't get me started on the weight difference. 2800 measly pounds for the S2000 vs the piggish GT at around 3400 lbs. I love GT's but an S2000 will give a new edge GT with a slush box a run.


Considering this information,we did trade positions 3 or four times, but at 100MPH I was half a car ahead. Mustangs build up momentum and keep hold of it.

i dident read the hole thread but if the kid can drive the s2k than it would prob win but comming from the honda comunity 85% of honda s2k drivers can not drive so you might have a perty good chance good luck with the race

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Roll racing is lame and further more the S2000 has the quickest acceleration for passing speeds in a given year (up until the 04 I believe) even over the Vette. (I.E. it accelerates faster from 40-65 and 50-70 than any other car) C&D and Motortrend both confirmed it. Vette of comparable years was .2 secondsslower or something so a mustang wouldn't touch it.


Starting/Using what gear?

wow [&:]well the day is getting closer gentlemen.

Sat. is the day my gears and diablo tune get hooked in. As of now , I see the s2k would screw me eh? I heard this kid can run a 13.8 was his best time. We shall see.. Ill try to get vids