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War with China.


U.S. would **** up china
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china will own us.
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RE: War with China. - 4/29/2008 6:26:18 PM   
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if we went to war with anyone i would sign up

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RE: War with China. - 4/29/2008 6:29:35 PM   
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threat might not be the right way to put it..

definately a power, but aside from N. Korea, and Iran, there arent many other 'military threats'

I think MAD is great.




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RE: War with China. - 4/29/2008 6:32:15 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: 72MachOne99GT

threat might not be the right way to put it..

definately a power, but aside from N. Korea, and Iran, there arent many other 'military threats'

I think MAD is great.





LOL

If provoked, China would be a huge threat...





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RE: War with China. - 4/29/2008 6:35:11 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: 72MachOne99GT

threat might not be the right way to put it..

definately a power, but aside from N. Korea, and Iran, there arent many other 'military threats'

I think MAD is great.





LOL

If provoked, China would be a huge threat...






agreed... but you think Iran is a military threat? HA in my eyes the only armies in the world today that would ever give the US a run is china, north korea, and england. but i love england almost as much as the US so we dont gotta worry about them. and thank god for it cause they got some ass kickers in that country


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RE: War with China. - 4/29/2008 6:35:30 PM   
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Um who gives a **** it wouldn't happen

The only current conflict going on right now that I think could cause a serious war is Israel going to war with palestain since there weapons come from russia. Then America would give involved and so would russia

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RE: War with China. - 4/29/2008 6:38:22 PM   
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Total war is not what it was before nuclear weapons.  We are a LONG long way from the minie ball. If you are in the services, you should know that.  At no time in the history of mankind have we been able to basically destroy the world in 30-40 minutes.  A massive nuclear exchange would do this.  It would destroy our major cities, destroy our air, our water, our electronics.  Satellites would fall from the sky, radioactive clouds would blanket the globe, and life AS WE KNOW IT would cease to exist.

So if THAT is what you are talking about, I see no winners.  Only losers.  Period.



That about sums it up.   Plus, it would be a long shot to not have other countries joining the fray.

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RE: War with China. - 4/29/2008 6:39:42 PM   
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quote:

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Um who gives a **** it wouldn't happen

The only current conflict going on right now that I think could cause a serious war is Israel going to war with palestain since there weapons come from russia. Then America would give involved and so would russia


Russia is no threat at all. they are completely not unified and just because their weapons come from russia doesnt mean they are allies. vietnams weapons came from russia and russia never faught us. us and israel are allies and we would probably not get involved because israel can hold its own. (with us supplying them of course)


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RE: War with China. - 4/29/2008 6:52:14 PM   
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with china it would probably result in a nuclear war and guess what? we are the leading producer of nuclear weapons. we just sit here and fire off missile after missile after missile at them. the could do the same but we can shoot down any missiles fired at our country.

also it does not matter the size of hte army.



you don't think they could just do the same?  oh **** IN A i gotfor'ed, we're the USA.  we always > everyone else!!111




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RE: War with China. - 4/29/2008 6:55:00 PM   
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yea pretty much

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RE: War with China. - 4/29/2008 7:11:28 PM   
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China would beat our a$$ into the ground.  They see our ICBM's coming inbound, they are going to fire right back, we kill them, they kill us.

If we went into China, they would still kick our asses.  Yeah we have the technology but they will beat us in shear numbers.

Read this:  http://www.insightmag.com/Media/MediaManager/slasheastasia_1.htm

Even other countries think we would get a beat down.

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RE: War with China. - 4/29/2008 7:11:32 PM   
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quote:

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threat might not be the right way to put it..

definately a power, but aside from N. Korea, and Iran, there arent many other 'military threats'

I think MAD is great.





LOL

If provoked, China would be a huge threat...






I'm not arguing they'd be a threat if provoked.

I meant that currently, China as a military power is not threatening. There are no reasons for either side to be aggressive.

N.Korea and Iran however are, as they are unstable and have fruit cakes with absolute power ruling them.

I didnt meant for it to sound like China raring its ugly head would not be threatening.




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RE: War with China. - 4/29/2008 7:16:49 PM   
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Some of those foreign powers, where the government-in-power is not vetted through a democratic process, are DEFINATELY scary.  One madman who came to power through force can actually get demented in a way that a voted on government cannot.  That is what scares me the most about some of those countries.

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RE: War with China. - 4/29/2008 7:16:51 PM   
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Numbers almost mean nothing today. Look at operation Iraqi Freedom. Nearly every military encoutner US forces had with Iraqi forces, the US forces were outnumbered, sometimes by as much as 10:1, yet they still won every single battle. Though we would most likely win any direct military confrontatio with China, the cost in blood and treasure would both be very high. In all liklihood China would prove to be as fierce an adversary as the Nazis were in WWII. We have fought China in the past, in the Korean War, and they proved to be capable fighters.

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RE: War with China. - 4/29/2008 7:19:37 PM   
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Iran would be another tricky one, just as Afghanistan or Pakistan would be or is  Our troops are hardly trained in the enviroments/terrain that those countries posses.  Yes by know they are well versed in the heat, but as for mountains and everything else they would get us.  Just like Vietnam, they were able to do what they did because they knew their terrain, and knew how to use it to their advantage and against us.

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RE: War with China. - 4/29/2008 7:21:09 PM   
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     They are using more oil because we are feeding their economy. As a business owner, I import most of my components and raw materials from there. The quality of some suppliers over there is absolutely fantastic. I still hear some horror stories from time to time but most of my dealings over there have been very positive. We cannot afford to fight them anymore because our cost structures are too dependent on them. I'm not saying it's right but it is an emerging economy so naturally their labor will be less than ours. I know that close to 50% of the population in China has cell phones. The SUV is by far the fastest growing segment of the automotive industry. The average Chinese wants a car so needs to be paid more. Prices are going up gradually and we will probably be playing on the same level in 20 years.

   I think it would be stupid to think about a conflict with the Chinese. If there is one, the U.S will initiate it.  The Chinese are not stupid and they realize that any conflict of that magnitude would result in a nuclear war.
They will own our economies in a few decades anyway.

   The value of the U.S currency is ridiculous now. As a Canadian business I quoted equipment in the past using the U.S dollar. I now only stick to Canadian currency because it's more stable vs the Euro. I try to sell locally or to European countries only. It's insane when you consider in 30 min away from the border. 

I'm not sure how things are going to be like in 20 years but It's pretty scary. (unless some chinese company buys me out)



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Would we win? United States or China. Today in history class I had a weird feeling we would go to war with china over oil. China is demanding more oil and the U.S gas prices are rising like no other. Please no flaming, just posts your thoughts. If we were ever to go to war with china, I think we would beat them pretty bad with our technology. They do have a way bigger army but their poorly trained and equipped.



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RE: War with China. - 4/29/2008 7:28:36 PM   
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no one wants to buy fruity french canadian companys




This thread is retarded USA is the greatest and doesn't do anything wrong and can never loose there you go


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RE: War with China. - 4/29/2008 7:31:40 PM   
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Found it!  In the "How do you rank up?" thread...

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harsh man, but i am an american soldier so stfu


So... is he a high school student, or an american soldier?

Whoops.


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RE: War with China. - 4/29/2008 7:33:22 PM   
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HS wanting to join the military....

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RE: War with China. - 4/29/2008 7:42:40 PM   
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Ah... that could have been made a bit clearer.  You know... by not saying "I am an american soldier," but instead saying "I intend to volunteer."  Oh well.




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RE: War with China. - 4/29/2008 8:23:15 PM   
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I don't know who would win. It is easy to say that either side would win, but then again, we aren't neutral. We are biased. Even when we try to be neutral, we say that it would end nuclearly (total death), but I don't think either country is stupid enough to start a nuclear war, considering each bomb could potentially cause a chain reaction and wipe out the world. But what do any of us know?

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