cause i sure as hell live by it. nothin better then watchin the bump draft at 200 mph goin 4 wide into turn 4 at talladega... just gives me chills

NO ONE

lawlzllllllzzzzz



****kin redneck

OMG OMG OMG DID YOU SEE THEM GO AROUND THE CIRCLE?!?!?!?!


No i did not see them go around the circle the firsr 394 times

i'd like to see how many people think its very easy to drive those cars around the track like that.

hey number one sport in America. cant argue with that. i dont get how a bunch of car enthusiests dont watch it. its made for us mfers. 800 hp 500 miles? crashes? best drivers in the world? come on

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i'd like to see how many people think its very easy to drive those cars around the track like that.



its probably hard as ****





doesnt make it any more exciting to watch [&:]

its not that great to watch on TV unless its the last 15 laps. i'd rather take a **** instead though.

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hey number one sport in America. cant argue with that. i dont get how a bunch of car enthusiests dont watch it. its made for us mfers. 800 hp 500 miles? crashes? best drivers in the world? come on



No.


stock car racing or some other form of racing that doensnt involve going around in circles again and again and again is interesting and fun to watch

not ****ing nascar.

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its not that great to watch on TV unless its the last 15 laps. i'd rather take a **** instead though.



exactly


like basketball


watch the last 3 minutes youll be fine

if you know whats going on, all the team members, how the draft works, how the setups work, whose good, whose bad, who can draft, who can block, who can push, who can pull, and you have a favorite driver it is pretty damn exciting.

I watch it...EBERY WKND...err or when it's on.

whose your driver duke?

LULZZZNASCAR

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its not that great to watch on TV unless its the last 15 laps. i'd rather take a **** instead though.



exactly


like basketball


watch the last 3 minutes youll be fine


yeah, but being there to watch it must be pretty sweet though on both counts.

ive never seen nascar in person but ive seen it on tv and im with matt on this one. its soo ****in lame. cars goin in circles......wooooooohoooooo

I admit, I watch it. The last few laps, and the crashes are what I usually watch it for.


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if you know whats going on, all the team members, how the draft works, how the setups work, whose good, whose bad, who can draft, who can block, who can push, who can pull, and you have a favorite driver it is pretty damn exciting.


+1, you have to know what is actually going on to enjoy it.

Come down here in FL/AL and say NASCAR sucks to certain people, and you'll get you ass kicked. Same thing applies for Larry the Cable Guy or anyone who support Hillary Clinton.

....and yeah, NASCAR kicks ass, F1 does too!

HOly fock dude....another left turn.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
lol

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Come down here in FL/AL and say NASCAR sucks to certain people, and you'll get you ass kicked. Same thing applies for Larry the Cable Guy or anyone who support Hillary Clinton.

....and yeah, NASCAR kicks ass, F1 does too!


I live in AL, go to a high school nicknamed "Country High" and still say Nascar sucks and Larry the Cable guy sucks ballz to anyone that says it's cool...Never got my ass handed to me.

larry the cable guy is hilarious imo.

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HOly fock dude....another left turn.


An overwhelming majority of us love to go to the strip.... hmmmm.... "holy hell, he's going in a straight line!"

World Rally Championship FTW tho, it's a shame you can't find it on TV alot anymore.

I used to think so. Then I heard the ten billionth wanna be redneck say "Git R Done" and I shot myself in the face because I couldn't take it anymore . Didn't kill me, so now I just have to say that he sucks ballz

If you click on my posts, you'll see THAT I LOVE nascar. My brother races SUPER STOCKS. So i know the cars pretty well. My brother is the best driver at the local track. It's his rookie year in this car, but has been racing go karts since 8 years old (shifter karts) then four years ago has been racing NASCARs. Rookie of the year in the Bomber, frst ever to win 2 races in a row, yada yada yada. NOw in his second race in the SUPERSTOCK qualified 4thbut only 1 tenth from poll. Started in 17th and ended in 5th. This isa 3/8 mile track too, so imagine how hard passing is in these cars. He is an amazing driver best out there and has the past season champs yelling at the officialsto let him start where he qualified so they can race with him. (Qualified 4th but started 17th becuase "rookies" have to start in the back for the first 2 races.) BUt like I said he had the best driver in the past who also has a few track championships yell at the officials to let him start in the front with them so they can race. My brother didn't pay 30 grand for the car and motor to start in last, he's here for the championship his rookie year. That's what they guy said, but it's in the rule book so they couldn't do anything.

I have a few pics of the car if you're interested.

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Come down here in FL/AL and say NASCAR sucks to certain people, and you'll get you ass kicked. Same thing applies for Larry the Cable Guy or anyone who support Hillary Clinton.

....and yeah, NASCAR kicks ass, F1 does too!


haha supporting hilary clinton... thats just un-american... but f1 is boring those guys suck. when the winston cup drivers race f1 they kick ass. the f1 drivers just arnt as good

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Come down here in FL/AL and say NASCAR sucks to certain people, and you'll get you ass kicked. Same thing applies for Larry the Cable Guy or anyone who support Hillary Clinton.

....and yeah, NASCAR kicks ass, F1 does too!


haha supporting hilary clinton... thats just un-american... but f1 is boring those guys suck. when the winston cup drivers race f1 they kick ass. the f1 drivers just arnt as good



OMG is that a redneck confederate flag bearing nascar loving saying a woman in the whitehouse is unamerican??? and f1 drivers suck????

BLASTMOPHY


almost as unamerican as supporitng and waving the confederate flag.


asshole

surf u r a fukking retard, u should shut up b4 every1 in ot owns u. u r trying WAY to hard. im as southern as any1 else but u r out of your element and u r about to get a reaalllllyyyy bad rep.

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Come down here in FL/AL and say NASCAR sucks to certain people, and you'll get you ass kicked. Same thing applies for Larry the Cable Guy or anyone who support Hillary Clinton.

....and yeah, NASCAR kicks ass, F1 does too!


haha supporting hilary clinton... thats just un-american... but f1 is boring those guys suck. when the winston cup drivers race f1 they kick ass. the f1 drivers just arnt as good



WTF!?!?!?!?!... Michael Schumacher is retired and could stillmake Jeff Gordon, Dale Jr., just about any NASCAR driver his personal bitch if he wanted to. If Ayrton Senna were alive now, you'd have the two best racing drivers God has ever created. Earnhardt Sr. would be a very, very distant third.

jeff gordon is a flaming homo...

nascar needs to be how it was wen richard petty was in his prime. thats all i have to say.

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Come down here in FL/AL and say NASCAR sucks to certain people, and you'll get you ass kicked. Same thing applies for Larry the Cable Guy or anyone who support Hillary Clinton.

....and yeah, NASCAR kicks ass, F1 does too!


haha supporting hilary clinton... thats just un-american... but f1 is boring those guys suck. when the winston cup drivers race f1 they kick ass. the f1 drivers just arnt as good



WTF!?!?!?!?!... Michael Schumacher is retired and could stillmake Jeff Gordon, Dale Jr., just about any NASCAR driver his personal bitch if he wanted to. If Ayrton Senna were alive now, you'd have the two best racing drivers God has ever created. Earnhardt Sr. would be a very, very distant third.


before they changed the time of the coke 600 every year tony stewart and gordon and them would race the indy 500. and tony would woop some asss... heres a vid of him doin it http://youtube.com/watch?v=Z_1CVW8bxHI

COMPLETE PWNAGE!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k0MvA1tE0ZU&feature=related

im happy with where nascar is going. this car of tomorrow is awesome. after talladega this weekend i was impressed. great drafting great power, great slingshot ability

schumacher FTW

NASCAR: lets fine the pants off of everybody for everything we can. why? because we arent richer than god yet...

im a fan of nascar..anyone who thinks "oo lets drive in circles for 3 hours"
doesnt nkow what they're talkin about
and surf..it hasn't been winston cup for like 4 years
brian brings up a good point..nascar was better long ago
when it was win on sunday sell on monday
not..every car is the same
and to the stang II..if your brother spent 30 grand on a car..he better do pretty well

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im a fan of nascar..anyone who thinks "oo lets drive in circles for 3 hours"
doesnt nkow what they're talkin about
and surf..it hasn't been winston cup for like 4 years
brian brings up a good point..nascar was better long ago
when it was win on sunday sell on monday
not..every car is the same
and to the stang II..if your brother spend 30 grand on a car..he better do pretty well


exactly...those cars that win on the track sell in the showroom. back wen stock car racing meant STOCK CAR RACING

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Come down here in FL/AL and say NASCAR sucks to certain people, and you'll get you ass kicked. Same thing applies for Larry the Cable Guy or anyone who support Hillary Clinton.

....and yeah, NASCAR kicks ass, F1 does too!


haha supporting hilary clinton... thats just un-american... but f1 is boring those guys suck. when the winston cup drivers race f1 they kick ass. the f1 drivers just arnt as good



WTF!?!?!?!?!... Michael Schumacher is retired and could stillmake Jeff Gordon, Dale Jr., just about any NASCAR driver his personal bitch if he wanted to. If Ayrton Senna were alive now, you'd have the two best racing drivers God has ever created. Earnhardt Sr. would be a very, very distant third.


before they changed the time of the coke 600 every year tony stewart and gordon and them would race the indy 500. and tony would woop some asss... heres a vid of him doin it http://youtube.com/watch?v=Z_1CVW8bxHI




The Indianapolis 500 isn't F1.It's probably just asoapbox derby to Schumacher.

yeah wtf Indy and F1 r totally different things...

driving a formula one car would take soo much skill
it would be fun..although an F1 driver would wax me

moving on...


i heard a rumor that nascar will switch the "shells" or what ever you wanna call them pretty soon

i hear they will switch to camaro, mustang, and challenger shells, and the toyota sponsored ones will get something else

that might pique my intrest a little more

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moving on...


i heard a rumor that nascar will switch the "shells" or what ever you wanna call them pretty soon

i hear they will switch to camaro, mustang, and challenger shells, and the toyota sponsored ones will get something else

that might pique my intrest a little more



Haven't heard that, but it sounds like a great idea. The idea of racing a Camry is just [:'(].

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im a fan of nascar..anyone who thinks "oo lets drive in circles for 3 hours"
doesnt nkow what they're talkin about
and surf..it hasn't been winston cup for like 4 years
brian brings up a good point..nascar was better long ago
when it was win on sunday sell on monday
not..every car is the same
and to the stang II..if your brother spent 30 grand on a car..he better do pretty well


Want to know the funny thing? That's cheap compared to the guys that have the BIG sponsors paying for their HUGE haulers...

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ORIGINAL: sultan68

im a fan of nascar..anyone who thinks "oo lets drive in circles for 3 hours"
doesnt nkow what they're talkin about
and surf..it hasn't been winston cup for like 4 years
brian brings up a good point..nascar was better long ago
when it was win on sunday sell on monday
not..every car is the same
and to the stang II..if your brother spent 30 grand on a car..he better do pretty well


Want to know the funny thing? That's cheap compared to the guys that have the BIG sponsors paying for their HUGE haulers...


Plus the big ass, 2 tontool box (pit box) with satellite TV and $hit thatthe crewsits on that is on pit road. THE EFF'N TOOL BOX COST $125,000+!!!!!!

proof...
http://www.al.com/motorsports/birminghamnews/index.ssf?/base/sports/120885215114790.xml&coll=2

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haha supporting hilary clinton... thats just un-american... but f1 is boring those guys suck. when the winston cup drivers race f1 they kick ass. the f1 drivers just arnt as good

Thank you for making the most ignorant comment in the entire thread. F1 is the pinnacle of motorsport racing. Every form of open wheel racing is a stepping stone to get to F1, and those that can't cut it there step down to "stock cars". A couple names come to mind, lets see......Villenueve (sp?)........Montoya........

I don't think there has ever been a Winston Cup driver in F1, they are so entirely different that they couldn't handle it. "You mean I have to turn right too?!? OMG WTF am I gonna do?!? I can't bump or hit people?!? How am I gonna pass somebody?"

Schumacher is the best driver alive in the world today, and IMO if he and Ayrton Senna had had more time together it would have been proven that he was also better than Senna. Look at Schumacher, wins F1 World Championship 7 times, and holds virtually every record in the books. He retires, and is now semi-pro on superbikes. That takes insane amounts of talent.

NASCAR????!!.......
Thats like me getting in a hotwheel car and driving around in circles in my kitchen..But wait!! i might crash.OMG..Wait another turn coming up I wonder which way I'm gonna go ahhhhhhhhhhhh....

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im a fan of nascar..anyone who thinks "oo lets drive in circles for 3 hours"
doesnt nkow what they're talkin about
and surf..it hasn't been winston cup for like 4 years
brian brings up a good point..nascar was better long ago
when it was win on sunday sell on monday
not..every car is the same
and to the stang II..if your brother spent 30 grand on a car..he better do pretty well


Want to know the funny thing? That's cheap compared to the guys that have the BIG sponsors paying for their HUGE haulers...


Plus the big ass, 2 tontool box (pit box) with satellite TV and $hit thatthe crewsits on that is on pit road. THE EFF'N TOOL BOX COST $125,000+!!!!!!

proof...
http://www.al.com/motorsports/birminghamnews/index.ssf?/base/sports/120885215114790.xml&coll=2


he's talking about dirt track racing..
i doubt they'll go to camaro/mustang/challengers even though not one thing on those cars is stock anymore

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i'd like to see how many people think its very easy to drive those cars around the track like that.


Neither is suxing one's own **** but you wouldnt comend a guy for it, now would you?

Fux tard:eek:

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haha supporting hilary clinton... thats just un-american... but f1 is boring those guys suck. when the winston cup drivers race f1 they kick ass. the f1 drivers just arnt as good

Thank you for making the most ignorant comment in the entire thread. F1 is the pinnacle of motorsport racing. Every form of open wheel racing is a stepping stone to get to F1, and those that can't cut it there step down to "stock cars". A couple names come to mind, lets see......Villenueve (sp?)........Montoya........

I don't think there has ever been a Winston Cup driver in F1, they are so entirely different that they couldn't handle it. "You mean I have to turn right too?!? OMG WTF am I gonna do?!? I can't bump or hit people?!? How am I gonna pass somebody?"

Schumacher is the best driver alive in the world today, and IMO if he and Ayrton Senna had had more time together it would have been proven that he was also better than Senna. Look at Schumacher, wins F1 World Championship 7 times, and holds virtually every record in the books. He retires, and is now semi-pro on superbikes. That takes insane amounts of talent.


neither of those guys have done sh!t in nascar.. montoya won in mexico city i think last year because hes probably driven that track 3456436 times

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haha supporting hilary clinton... thats just un-american... but f1 is boring those guys suck. when the winston cup drivers race f1 they kick ass. the f1 drivers just arnt as good

Thank you for making the most ignorant comment in the entire thread. F1 is the pinnacle of motorsport racing. Every form of open wheel racing is a stepping stone to get to F1, and those that can't cut it there step down to "stock cars". A couple names come to mind, lets see......Villenueve (sp?)........Montoya........

I don't think there has ever been a Winston Cup driver in F1, they are so entirely different that they couldn't handle it. "You mean I have to turn right too?!? OMG WTF am I gonna do?!? I can't bump or hit people?!? How am I gonna pass somebody?"

Schumacher is the best driver alive in the world today, and IMO if he and Ayrton Senna had had more time together it would have been proven that he was also better than Senna. Look at Schumacher, wins F1 World Championship 7 times, and holds virtually every record in the books. He retires, and is now semi-pro on superbikes. That takes insane amounts of talent.


neither of those guys have done sh!t in nascar.. montoya won in mexico city i think last year because hes probably driven that track 3456436 times

montoya won one race last year and it was a fuel milage race. he was the only guy that stayed out on the track and got lucky. that is not the driver but the crew chief.

and that first guys brought up names like montoya? he cam to nascar and got his ass handed to him by the real drivers. nascar is where the best drivers in the world race

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haha supporting hilary clinton... thats just un-american... but f1 is boring those guys suck. when the winston cup drivers race f1 they kick ass. the f1 drivers just arnt as good

Thank you for making the most ignorant comment in the entire thread. F1 is the pinnacle of motorsport racing. Every form of open wheel racing is a stepping stone to get to F1, and those that can't cut it there step down to "stock cars". A couple names come to mind, lets see......Villenueve (sp?)........Montoya........

I don't think there has ever been a Winston Cup driver in F1, they are so entirely different that they couldn't handle it. "You mean I have to turn right too?!? OMG WTF am I gonna do?!? I can't bump or hit people?!? How am I gonna pass somebody?"

Schumacher is the best driver alive in the world today, and IMO if he and Ayrton Senna had had more time together it would have been proven that he was also better than Senna. Look at Schumacher, wins F1 World Championship 7 times, and holds virtually every record in the books. He retires, and is now semi-pro on superbikes. That takes insane amounts of talent.


neither of those guys have done sh!t in nascar.. montoya won in mexico city i think last year because hes probably driven that track 3456436 times

montoya won one race last year and it was a fuel milage race. he was the only guy that stayed out on the track and got lucky. that is not the driver but the crew chief.

and that first guys brought up names like montoya? he cam to nascar and got his ass handed to him by the real drivers. nascar is where the best drivers in the world race


[sm=icon_rofl.gif]

No i'm talking about NASCAR.

Anyway, you can't compare the 2 sports. My brother and i'll say this again, raced shifter karts throughout his life and has raced scott speed. Who as you know was in F1 2 years ago. My brother was better than him, but didn't have the money, and now my brother is in nascar.

Scott SPeed is too, BUT he really isn't that great in it either. My brother is very talented getting praised by everyone at the track and on the radio.

Anyway, Jeff Gordon drove an F1 car, and said it was pretty difficult but managed to get a few decent laps in. Then the guys car he drove drove Gordons nascar. He said it was pretty hard nd got a few so so laps in

Now look at Franchiti and Montoya and the other open wheeled fames, and look where they are at. Dario Franchiti BARELY makes some of the races Montoya SUCKS.

Even when they go to the 2 road courses they don't pull un godly times, **** Montoya didn't eve qualify poll. Tony Stewart won a few. See you can't compare these two racing sports both totaly different.

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and that first guys brought up names like montoya? he cam to nascar and got his ass handed to him by the real drivers. nascar is where the best drivers in the world race

I stand corrected, this is the most ignorant statement in this thread [&:]

Yes, Scot Speed was in F1 for a while. It was hoped that he would help increase American interest in the sport. He scored a whole one or two points in his very short career and was let go because he was so unreliable and generally used poor judgement in passing situations. He was constantly hitting people.

I am not saying it takes no skill at all to drive Nascar, because I know it does. It is just a radically different set of skills when compared to F1 or open wheel racing in general. I just find it entertaining that this guy actually seems to believe Nascar drivers are so much better than F1 drivers.

HAHAHAHAH I love these nascar threads, brings all the hillbillys out of the woodwork[8D]:D


You can like nascar all you want, differnet strokes for different folks, but to say they are superior drivers to F1 drivers is just plain retarded

NASCAR events are better in person.
just like any other sport is. i cant watch it on tv but ive had fun both times ive seen a NASCAR event. there is other stuff to do there besides just watch the cars drive in circles.

ya if they ever had one around here, I would go watch

But I would love to go to Montreal some time for the Canadian Grand Prix (F1 race)


Some day[:o]

Schumi vs Raikonnen battle from 06

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SbyfRPqPEqA&feature=related

Would like to see any nascar driver do this.

I'm sure the G forces and right turns would confuse them.

I've said it before and I'll say it again. Going to a NASCAR race is great because it is the only place where you can count more feet than teeth.

Besides, Sprint Cup girls have NOTHING on F1 girls!

Only read first page.

On TV, it isn't much fun till like 25 laps to go. But when you get inside the cockpit with the blazing engines, the gauges, the nudges at 200mph, and the draft... it's ****ing amazing.

No offense, but Nascar should be American car companies only, with the new shells.

Toyota can suck it.

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But I would love to go to Montreal some time for the Canadian Grand Prix (F1 race)


I'd like to make that one too. I went to the USGP the first four years it was here, and then stopped going [:o] The sound in person is simply indescribable compared to what you hear on TV. And a word of caution, don't go down to the starting line thinking you are gonna get some awesome pictures without wearing ear protection.....just ask me how I know [&:]

I might go to the German Grand Prix, my dad is full german and wants to go watch it. He loves schumacher so much as do i. But both racing takes 2 differen't skills, one may b harder than the other but not by much. Look at montoya he's STRUGGLING, he SUCKS and he camefrom f1. So I mean come on, it must be a little bit harder to "turn left." I know it's harder but some of you don't understand.

Just watching my bro come off turn 4 inches from the wall at 100 mph makes me cringe when he's side by side with someone. I know I wouldn't be able to go balls to the wall like him.

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I might go to the German Grand Prix, my dad is full german and wants to go watch it. He loves schumacher so much as do i. But both racing takes 2 differen't skills, one may b harder than the other but not by much. Look at montoya he's STRUGGLING, he SUCKS and he camefrom f1. So I mean come on, it must be a little bit harder to "turn left." I know it's harder but some of you don't understand.

Just watching my bro come off turn 4 inches from the wall at 100 mph makes me cringe when he's side by side with someone. I know I wouldn't be able to go balls to the wall like him.


very true. montoya sucks and everyone hates him. i was up at the pocono race last year and he didnt even have a trailor to sell stuff haha. hes garbage

At least that seems to be pretty universal. Montoya was not well liked in F1 either :D

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You can say I love NASCAR. BTW That's my brothers SUPER STOCK.

****in awesome... im makin the treck down to richmond this week with box seats and pit passes. ill take some pics of the big boys for ya guys

THank you it's very fun to watch him race, VERY talented driver.

NASCAR FTMFW!!!!11111one!!!!!!! my favorite sport. heres my race car.. will be driving a pro stock someday, hopefully someday soon. everyone says i canreally drive. old pic

http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii309/racin66coupe/028_28.jpg

oh yeah. i been racin since i was 11

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haha supporting hilary clinton... thats just un-american... but f1 is boring those guys suck. when the winston cup drivers race f1 they kick ass. the f1 drivers just arnt as good

Thank you for making the most ignorant comment in the entire thread. F1 is the pinnacle of motorsport racing. Every form of open wheel racing is a stepping stone to get to F1, and those that can't cut it there step down to "stock cars". A couple names come to mind, lets see......Villenueve (sp?)........Montoya........

I don't think there has ever been a Winston Cup driver in F1, they are so entirely different that they couldn't handle it. "You mean I have to turn right too?!? OMG WTF am I gonna do?!? I can't bump or hit people?!? How am I gonna pass somebody?"

Schumacher is the best driver alive in the world today, and IMO if he and Ayrton Senna had had more time together it would have been proven that he was also better than Senna. Look at Schumacher, wins F1 World Championship 7 times, and holds virtually every record in the books. He retires, and is now semi-pro on superbikes. That takes insane amounts of talent.


Up until VERY recently F1 has always been about the CAR. Who ever had the best car won. Dosnt matter who was in it. Only exception would be Shumacher was always the best in the rain. In the rain a F1 race was more about the driver. Schumacher usuallygot to drivethe best cars. Even when his team mates were winning they would have to let Micheal by for the winbecause of "team orders". Thats about the time I gave up watching F1 every week end because it was so pretentious.

Schumacher did give me one of my favorite quotes. "There is a fixed amount of intelligence in the world& the population is growing". I think he was referring to an on track incident but it works any where.

F1 driverstend have the most stuck up, self righteous, every one else alive is my slave, personalities. This is why Montoya dosnt fit in.

I see that F1 ismoveing more towards limiting technologies, traction & makeing the drivers talent figure in more. I like that.

Did I say that NASCAR rocks? I like just about all the drivers but I like to see Harvick, Schreider or Jeff Burtonwin.

NASCAR is like any sport, once you know all the personalities its much more interesting. A lot more to it than just making laps. I have heard rumors of FORD useing the Mustang body, it would be perfect for the shape of the "new car".

If you want to see some thing spectacular go to the August night race @ Bristo Tenn. 180K people in stands that tower 220' in the air, watching43cars around a 1/2 mile track!!!!!!!


In my best John Lovits ...."but thats what I think".

Yea 66 my bro's been racing since he was 8 years old. Me too actually, then I flipped my gokart skidded on my back for 150ft and called it quits.

Is that a mini stock?

yeah its a mini stock. im gunna be building a mid 80s carlo for a pure stock for next season;)