Man, I realize that you cant beat the price of pypes.... But the work that has to be put into practically all of there products I have heard of or seen at this time is ridiculous. I bought the muffler deletes a long time ago, the sound was freakin awesome (loud but awesome) and the fitement was so horrible that the muffler shop couldnt even get them fixed. I replaced them with magna flows. But then my friend bught the violators and he had the same problem, he called pypes and they said sorry, we'll send you a hat or somthing but there is nothing we can do about the fitement, and to just try and twist the mid pipe to get it bet as he could. Up and down looks ok but the P/S tip sticks out further than the D/S. IDK cost over quality, its a tough decision but one I know I'll think twice about making again. good luck to you though.
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