this is idea is ****ing stupid....tons of schools dont even provide buses, and plenty of HS kids work their job schedules to fit school and have to go right after school...i got out at noon to go to work, im sure the school would make a special bus route just to drive one student to work ... you're idea makes as much sense as saying that all cars should be outlawed because we provide public transportation....everyone knows that public transportation goes EVERYWHERE and followed every single persons schedule perfectly, just like school buses do....gtfo and learn to think your ideas through before posting them
Federal mileage restrictions in order to force manufacturers to produce more fuel efficient cars. Huge tax penalties on "guzzler" V8 vehicles like mustangs and SUVs.
What does it all mean? I will tell you. It is just a way for us to subsidize the lower income/poor people in the country who are barely scraping by. That's it. And you are either OK with that or you aren't.
I don't think it should be forced on anyone by the government but hey I'm a libertarian so what do I know.
**** that, i had a jackhole cuban bus driver in highschool that gave me so much **** cause i wouldnt answer to him in spanish, **** the county school system and **** more federal regulations. you want to help lower gas demand? fix the immigration problem and with less of those ****ers we waste less damn gas
in my town you have to pay 80 dollars a year to have the school bus actually stop and pick you up. if you choose to drive you have to pay 80 dollars to park in th e parking lot.
College students don't have a tax dollar paid bus that stops for them in front of their door like high school students have.
Ya know that A LOT of places have no bus service for schools right?
I would much rather have the government not place any restrictions on gas or oil. The government would manage to screw it up somehow.
Huh, I guess the government is forgetting what free market means. So glad I will be out before this bill passes. haha
This bill is totally retarded, if highschoolers can scrap by at ~$6-7 bucks an hour, they have the right to ****ing drive. It isn't the youth's fault that adults can't pay 3-4 dollars a gallon on gas, yet they still insist on driving that V8 SUV and going out to chilli's every Saturday. Get a better job or ask for a pay raise if money is tight! My god.
Yeah and the kids that live too far away to be picked up by the bus? Make exceptions? Then everyone will try and find loopholes so that they too can qualify an an exception to the rule. You think some kids would be ok with other kids getting to drive, but not them? You can't tell people who have a vehicle when/where they are allowed to drive.
Starting this fall there should be a Federal law requiring all highschool students to take the bus to and from school.
Why should all of those extra gallons of gas be wasted, causing more demand, so they can look "cool." Hard working parents have to pay more for that wastefulness to get the gas they need in order to get to and from work.
Hmmm, maybe we should also demand that anyone who lives where there is public transportation (pretty much everyone here unless you are a redneck in which case see *here*) be required to take the public bus as well. Why should all those extra gallons of gas be wasted, causing more demand, to feed your pony car?
Dumbest idea ever. If you were a kid in high school right now would you like a law like this to be passed? I love how kids get all their rights taken away after the people who pass these laws enjoy their time without them as kids (see raising the drinking age). Sounds like old people like oppressing the youth.
Am I really the only one who got linked to camaroforums? Some of us drive mustangs too.
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You want the Imperial Federal Government to mandate that your child MUST take the Loser Cruiser to school?
Are you serious? Please, tell me this was one of those, "HaHa! I got you!" threads.
Who in the hell do you think you are telling me and mine when and where we can and can not drive? Just who in the hell do you think you are?
Don't you think 'they' have enough power over us already? If I need my kid to drive to school one day for whatever reason, I would have to get a permission slip from the government? WTF kind of communist, American-hating, Godless thinking is that?
Just a guess. Tell me true. Are you a Democrat/liberal/socialist/progressive?
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that is the absolute most ignorant thing that i have heard in quite awhile
i'm a senior in high school and i pay for my car (dosnt really count, for the record, cause i got a good deal from a family member), all the gas, all the mods, and for anything that breaks - since i was 15. 3 years of that was on a kitchen wage, and you have the nerve to tell me that i shouldnt be driving my car, that i paid for, to school because you think that it will actually make a difference in the gas prices.
after school i go to work. i work full time and the only way for me to get there is my car. take a look sometime at the people that are in the kitchen of your favorite places to eat. THEY ARE IN HIGH SCHOOL. they work to pay for thier stuff, becuase their parents dont. if they cant get to work then you cant get your food
and you cant make a law applicable to certain people btw
you are the reason why the gene pool needs lifeguards
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It's bright though, lower gas demand, raise diesel demand, no one needs diesel right?
Putting 30 students on a diesel powered bus instead of 30 seperate cars being driven will use less oil overall. Multiply that by thousands of schools.
More students riding the bus means more buses needed, which means more cost to the districts for purchasing the buses and the gas they will use. Multiply that by thousands of schools.
i happen to drive to school because i have no bus service. so what is your proposed plan for this?
Walk, bike, carpool, moped.
People are going to whine an complain regardless "F**k that its too far, its this, its that, I blah blah blah" Its basically just ends up a big "ME" issue, and people trying to justify why they would/should be excluded. Which usually circles around: HUMPH* no ones gonna tell me what to do, its my right, i paid for..., or some other BS excuse. Kids that gotta work and what not after school, sure. But others who dont NEED to drive to school, shouldnt try to make excuses to justify why they should. People just dont want to bite the bullet because its an inconvenience to them.
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College students don't have a tax dollar paid bus that stops for them in front of their door like high school students have.
i actually do. I can walk outside catch the city boss from my front door and ride it for free.
as a college student that lives on campus i drive maybe 100 miles in 2 month
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Yeah and the kids that live too far away to be picked up by the bus? Make exceptions? Then everyone will try and find loopholes so that they too can qualify an an exception to the rule. You think some kids would be ok with other kids getting to drive, but not them? You can't tell people who have a vehicle when/where they are allowed to drive.
This is the worst idea ever.
its different then your employer saying , hey you cant park your car at work , ride our bus. The school is gov. property just like a military base. they CAN tell you to not park there AND enforce it. Altho every kid is going to drive and park across the street from the school and walk a block.
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also, what about people like myself who have free periods, were not gonna waste our time at school just because some **** like you thinks we shouldnt be driving
plus, most people's schools are within 5 miles of their house, most peoples offices are within 20, why not just make people take a bus to work, you ****
get the **** off the internet, people like you piss me the **** off
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everyone who is in agreement of this idea is blatently retarded, and if they want to live in a dictatorship, should go live in one. This country was founded on there being zero regulations on our freedoms and rights, which the OP is blatently trying to do. You think just because you think it's a good idea, that means it is? Hitler thought the haulocaust was a good idea too, look how that turned out.
if you want to decrease the demand on foreign oil, design an engine that doesn't use oil, and doesn't have to be plugged in every 100 miles. Even the car that did have to be plugged in every 150 miles or whatever got qualmed by the oil companies because it would put them out of bussiness.
How about this you oh so intelligent person. Why don't we limit the ammount of profit increase there can be to oil refineries, or ****ly as a country, kick the living **** out of every big oil tycoon that has more money in his bank account than he can spend in 5 lifetimes. The oil demand isn't the problem, its the dip ****s that are out there making record proffits off of the oil demand. There is plenty of oil out there, just too many money hogging idiots out to serve their own purposes, kind of like you. You feel that your wallet is hurting too much so we should restrict everybody elses ****ing freedom so that it's better for you.
Remember this Benjamen Franklin, in regards to this said "Anyone who is willing to give up any amount of freedom in return for safety, doesn't deserve either". The second you say it's okay to take away some of our freedom to justify your little budget problem gives the government complete control to outlaw anything they want.
This "Law" that your supposing is literally worse than the age discrimination on alcohol sales, tabacco sales, and that of pornography. By doing this, you are limiting the free enterprise of every oil company, of every indipentantly owned gas station. If we can't limit the proffit of these bastards directly, then we shouldn't do it indirectly by hurting everybody else in the process as well. The only thing that the high oil price hurts is your wallet. Directly speaking, it doesn't cause crime, drug abuse, nor does it impair your ability to think, such as the affects of alcohol.
The only excuse that the Government or anyone else can come up with, truely, for limiting the sale of alcohol to minors, is a health reason, so if you can find one for limiting the sale of petrol, besides lightening your pocket book, then go for it, otherwise, STFU
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... you're idea makes as much sense as saying that all cars should be outlawed because we provide public transportation....everyone knows that public transportation goes EVERYWHERE and followed every single persons schedule perfectly, just like school buses do....gtfo and learn to think your ideas through before posting them
