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Old 04-24-2008, 08:48 AM   #1
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Default '05 SC GT or '04 Cobra

I currently have a 2000 BMW M5 and I am getting very sick of the over inflated prices involved with owning this car. Last trip to dealer they wanted $750 to change out the thermostat. I am looking at a '05 Mustang GT supercharged or an '04 Mustang Cobra. I like the look and interior room of the '05, but I like the idea that the Cobra's engine was designed to handle the Supercharger. Which one would give better perfromance?
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Old 04-24-2008, 08:49 AM   #2
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Default RE: '05 SC GT or '04 Cobra

03-04 Cobra, the Cobra motor is much MUCH more capable than the 3V 4.6 in the new GT's. But I'd probably keep the M5.
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Old 04-24-2008, 10:07 AM   #3
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The forged Cobra block will hold mor power from the get go. However you have to buy a used Cobra. They are great but are nowhere as refined as the S197.
Many people have fast S197s that can beat Cobras but to achieve numbers well over 500RWHP safely you shouldupgrade forged rods and pistons in a 3-valve.
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Old 04-24-2008, 10:24 AM   #4
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Old 04-24-2008, 10:34 AM   #5
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I don't mind a slightly used Cobra. I am 2.5 hrs from the nearest certified BMW M Technician. It is getting to be a real pain every time I have to have my car worked on. I had a 2000 GT and was pretty happy with it. There are a ton of aftermarket accessories at a reasonable price. I am looking at new OEM wheels for my M5, $1,100 each. I am thinking I would have more fun building a Mustang (Cobra) than maintaining an M5.

What is an S197?
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Old 04-24-2008, 10:45 AM   #6
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What is an S197?
S197 is the model code for this generation of Mustang. similar to how bmw has E46, E40, etc... or how VW has MK3, MK4, etc...
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Old 04-24-2008, 10:46 AM   #7
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I don't mind a slightly used Cobra. I am 2.5 hrs from the nearest certified BMW M Technician. It is getting to be a real pain every time I have to have my car worked on. I had a 2000 GT and was pretty happy with it. There are a ton of aftermarket accessories at a reasonable price. I am looking at new OEM wheels for my M5, $1,100 each. I am thinking I would have more fun building a Mustang (Cobra) than maintaining an M5.

What is an S197?
The S197 is the 05+ Mustang. The 03/04 Cobras known as Terminators are awesome beasts with potential out the wazoo. They have a 4v vs 3v in the 05+
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Old 04-24-2008, 11:45 AM   #8
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Get the 04 cobra for performanace and fun. I love my 07 SC GT, I bought it new and installed the blower. Bought the car on an impulse, going to the car lot is 100 times harder than a pet store. I always bring something home.

In hindsight I should have bought a Cobra, but big deal I still have a great car.

Here is what I would have done had I got a Cobra, in no particular order.

-Solid rear axle
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-New fuel system
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-Larger intercooler res.
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-298ci forged/stroked block
-Black 03 Cobra relica wheels (Would have got a Sonic Blue car)

Put out about 650+rwhp on pump gas, race gas ???.




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Old 04-24-2008, 02:23 PM   #9
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What's the cost of the mods that it would take to get the 650hp you are talking about?
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Old 04-24-2008, 03:17 PM   #10
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Get the 04 cobra for performanace and fun. I love my 07 SC GT, I bought it new and installed the blower. Bought the car on an impulse, going to the car lot is 100 times harder than a pet store. I always bring something home.

In hindsight I should have bought a Cobra, but big deal I still have a great car.

Here is what I would have done had I got a Cobra, in no particular order.

-Solid rear axle
-MGW shifter
-3.4L whipple
-New fuel system
-Larger HE
-Larger intercooler res.
-Sparco seats
-Roll cage
-Alum DS
-Mcloed Twin disc clutch
-298ci forged/stroked block
-Black 03 Cobra relica wheels (Would have got a Sonic Blue car)

Put out about 650+rwhp on pump gas, race gas ???.




so by the time you do all those mods on a cobra, you can buy a used GT (easily 8K cheaper than a 03 cobra) and do the SAME mods.

My point is ... if you're going that far in a cobra is absolutelly pointles buying one, you can do that in a 05GT and the baseline will be cheaper, and the results will be the same.
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