The two top choices for a blower would be a Jenne Bell or the best choice a Big man Whipple. Some of the Whipple buyers are real men and no matter how hard I try I can't get them to become gender confused. After the installation they join some alternative lifestyle thing they call the "Whipple Crew" where they talk track times and RWHP, and all I want to talk about is knitting and Cat Fancy Magazine (oh and baking I am a sucker for baking).
I fixed your post Z Whipple or KB is the only Twin screws, and the Whipple is a complete kit...
Hmmm.... I could have swore the Saleen SC was a twin screw.... I guess myself and all the other owners running Saleen SC's have been lied to.
The two top choices for a blower would be a Jenne Bell or the best choice a Big man Whipple. Some of the Whipple buyers are real men and no matter how hard I try I can't get them to become gender confused. After the installation they join some alternative lifestyle thing they call the "Whipple Crew" where they talk track times and RWHP, and all I want to talk about is knitting and Cat Fancy Magazine (oh and baking I am a sucker for baking).
I fixed your post Z Whipple or KB is the only Twin screws, and the Whipple is a complete kit...
Hmmm.... I could have swore the Saleen SC was a twin screw.... I guess myself and all the other owners running Saleen SC's have been lied to.
The Saleen is a coffee grinder with two screws to compress the coffee......j/k The Saleens are bad azz as well
Man I guess I picked a good topic.While all of you are helpfull (well except the guy that can't figure out witch S/C he wants to rename). I am still up in the air I will probly just send my car to Brenspeed & let them handle it. Thats where I have gaot all my other parts. I just want to spend my money one time on the nicest S/C I can get. I really don't want to put one on & the car not be as fast as I want. I learned a long time ago ask questions there is no dumb ones use all the awnsers to figure out what you want. I would rather spend a good amout of money now then regret my choice & spend double.. The guys over at Brenspeed have been awsome to deal with so far & I have not seen a bad post about them yet. So I think I will just trust them to get me the power I am wanting & I will test the car from there... I ask this queston to this form cause you guys have done alot & the shops in dallas all are over priced or stick it to you once they tear your car down.. Like the guys that did my 4.10s I ended up paying $729.00 for my gears & my car has 989 miles on it. after the quote of $524.00 out the door. So I guess I am going to keep taking advise. But ultimatly Let Brenspeed Handle It....
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Dude stick with what the majority people are using. There is a reason you never see people using Magnuson on our stangs. I think its a roots style blower which isnt gonna give you the efficiency of a twin screw which has a much wider powerband.
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Twin screw: instant torque...feels like a big block...whines under wot Centrifugal: belt driven turbo...power band claims steady from roughly 3000rpm until you let off the gas... single turbo: big torque and horsepower..begins making boost as early as 2200 and makes full boost by 3000...hits hard and does not stop pulling but does stop increasing power by 6200
Like I said previously though. For a turbo you want a taller gear to put more load on the turbo. 4.10's are not an ideal gear for that. If I didnt have a turbo I would probably have a saleen or whipple.
im saleen all the way. i have to get my other sheet which is higher but look at my boost. ill run all you whipples and kbs, ill put my money where my mouth is, i got your back sactown
Jesus Christ! Whyh does everyone on this site buy into the whipple myth? If you spend some time and PM the right people you will see that for what you want the whimmple may not be your best option. The Saleen SC makes more power at lower boost than either the the KB or whipple, if you dont believe me PM mustard05 or read his post*(he is a very good friend of mine). And every whimple owner will come back and say "my SC make more power at 10psi than the Saleen, but that is not true, what is true is that they do not need to run a pulley as small as the Saleen to make the same the boost, but at the same psi the saleen is a much better SC than either of those. Now don't quote me on this but, it seems to me that the whimples make more boost on the same size pulley as the Saleen, they just don't make the same power. Personally I don't care which direction you go , but please read,study and ask, before you spend.
I am runnign the 475hp upgrade with a Steeda CIA, and a custom tune and that is it.
Wait, that is it as far as HP upgrades everything else is to make it work right, and yes that leaves me open to being trashed, but other than my cluthc issues, my car will keep up if not smoke most of the guys running 10psi with a KB or whimple. If you have any conserne PM mustard05 he is making crazy number and running less than 10psi. I know this will piss off the whipple owners, but I am not trying to trash them/.
< Message edited by sactown -- 4/25/2008 8:30:13 PM >
Man you people are F--king crazy. I think we need to get all the S/C in mid America. & you guys should race it out like Pinks Put your money where your mouth is. So far its like anything else Mine is Better than yours. Damn I guess I asked the wrong people. You guys have my head spinning. Has anyone put a S/C on & said you know this thing is ASS. Let Me know Instead of this My roster Is bigger than yours Crap
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I havent seen a kit besides the Paxton that is putting down 460-480 (530-550 gross HP)wheel HP in a stock kit. Please enlighten me as to where i get a whipple that will do that?
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I agree with you completely, the whole SC thing is mine is better yours BS! It just depends on what you are trying to accomplish, but on the same note the whimple guys tend to get a little butt hurt if you don't take their side. The KB and Saleen guys know what we have and tend to keep our mouths shut. But of course there are exceptions to that rule.
In the FI realm of advice and opinions all comments should start with "IMHO"...
IMHO My KB is "tits". I have a friend with an 03 Terminator and the "stock" eaton screams and puts down an impressive 398hp. Another friend has a 89 foxbody with a vortec s trim that puts down a hell of a lot more torque then my KB does....
to OP read through the KB, Whipple, FordRacing, Vortec, ATI Procharger, ect websites. Figure out if you want a street car that rides fairly well that you're comfy in(NOT A COMMUTER CAR). You want a "cone cutter" Auto-X car or a tire-melting "vett-killer". All types of rides have different power out puts at the final drive from the motor no matter what FI you choose. If you're planning on taking a 600HP car back and forth to work....you're gonna end up hating the car. If you take a 350hp car to the track, you'll end up hating the car. With these cars, once you pass a bench-mark HP level. You have to seriously consider the "other" mods you're going to want to do (i.e. brakes, sub-frame connectors, suspension, steering and fuel mods). IMHO I found that once I hit the 450HP mark I was happy. Its a trial and error hobby though. If you aren't satisfied with the way the car handles add or subtract something. I figured that if you run the car with a mod for a while you get a feel for how the car runs with it and go from there. For example, you want to jump straight into a FI set up(good choice IMO). Don't waste money on the UDP, CMDP, CAI kits....in the end you just go blown! The KB 2.6L doesn't have any whine to it. And thats fine, my car's a sleeper anyway. The Whipple is an awesome product. I've seen the Dynos, time slips and rode in a couple whipple blown cars. Same for the Saleens. Slap one on and ride at the "out-of-the-box" boost level for a while then go from there. Take it to the track a few times, take it back and forth to work a couple times, go on a mustang cruise. See how it handles. All the twin screws hit hard when you drop the clutch, no doubt about that. And all are capable of hitting hi boost levels with HP 500+. You can do anything to any blower or engine with the right amount of money and know how. Anyone that says that a twin screw can't make xxx amount of power is talking out their ass. Talk to local and distant tuners, ask what they've seen and tuned. In the end, no matter the choice as Moosestang pointed out to me last summer when I was tearing my hair out, trying to figure out which way I was going to go. "No matter what choice you make, you'll be happy with the outcome as soon as you stomp on the gas".
there's my $.02
< Message edited by 07BOSSGT_S197 -- 4/25/2008 9:31:40 PM >
I am runnign the 475hp upgrade with a Steeda CIA, and a custom tune and that is it.
Wait, that is it as far as HP upgrades everything else is to make it work right, and yes that leaves me open to being trashed, but other than my cluthc issues, my car will keep up if not smoke most of the guys running 10psi with a KB or whimple. If you have any conserne PM mustard05 he is making crazy number and running less than 10psi. I know this will piss off the whipple owners, but I am not trying to trash them/.
I think you should get the supercharger that your tuner specializes in. I live near ST motorsports and they use Whipples and KB's to build the biggest baddest TS S197s. I called them and told them what i want and adam said get the whipple. I wanted that whine!!!!! Hey sactown no one is bashing your saleen so dont get so offensive. Its all good. PS. I think ill smoke you
I agree with you completely, the whole SC thing is mine is better yours BS! It just depends on what you are trying to accomplish, but on the same note the whimple guys tend to get a little butt hurt if you don't take their side. The KB and Saleen guys know what we have and tend to keep our mouths shut. But of course there are exceptions to that rule.
I have had a KB and now a whipple. The Whipple has cooler IAT's and puts down 100 more RWHP (of course the Whipple is the 3.4). You Saleen boys are a little testy The ST crew is 90% Whipple and Adam has built a lot of the 10 second s197 DD out there.
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I agree with you completely, the whole SC thing is mine is better yours BS! It just depends on what you are trying to accomplish, but on the same note the whimple guys tend to get a little butt hurt if you don't take their side. The KB and Saleen guys know what we have and tend to keep our mouths shut. But of course there are exceptions to that rule.
I have had a KB and now a whipple. The Whipple has cooler IAT's and puts down 100 more RWHP (of course the Whipple is the 3.4). You Saleen boys are a little testy The ST crew is 90% Whipple and Adam has built a lot of the 10 second s197 DD out there.
Mustard will smoke you with only 10psi!
If you have no cats and long tubes you will have to run a smaller pulley to make the same psi as someone with cats and stock exhaust. There is no magic supercharger out there.
hypersurf1, you are nutz and i'm not going to do the research for you. If you like to live in your paxton fantasy world then so be it. This thread equals.
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