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Help me build my system please, thanks :) - 4/20/2008 8:02:05 AM   
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Okay, so ill start a new thread and organize everything. Iv decided im going to do my own install and i have been reading up on a bunch of things, and seight has helped me a lot as well.

What I aim to accomplish is a decent sounding system for a decent price. No cheapo crap, but nothing rediciously expensive. Its hard for me since when i buy something, i want to buy the best of the best lol. Its an expensive habbit...

I've heard nothing bad about eD stuff, so im looking at that. But im also looking at stuff i can pick up locally. How are pioneer, inifinity, or kenwood? They seem to be significantly less than the eD stuff while putting out more impressive numbers. Although, im looking for more sq than spl.

I will be building my own custom enclosure as well, and have read that sealed boxes provide more sq while ported or vented provides more sql

Also, can someone clear up an amp question for me? When matching an amp to a sub or speakers, i have to match the amp to the rms wattage of the sub? Most sub specifications throw out 3 or 4 wattage specifications at you... which ones are the most important

As for price... im looking to spend maybe 500$ on sub(s)+amp+door speakers(will purchase another amp later)

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RE: Help me build my system please, thanks :) - 4/20/2008 5:18:06 PM   
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the power rating of the speaker is the least important number to look at.  When matching a speaker to an amp make sure that the impedence(ohms) match before you worry about the speakers power rating. 

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RE: Help me build my system please, thanks :) - 4/20/2008 5:46:02 PM   
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how about:

infinity speakers: 100-200$
infinity amp 50x4+ 150x1: 350
sub of your choice.
most important # to look at is the rms (which is the power output most of the time), at the number of ohms your sub is. the lower the ohms, the more power the amp puts out. and peak power is the most powerful the amp could be for a brief burst.

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RE: Help me build my system please, thanks :) - 4/20/2008 5:48:18 PM   
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Or even a sub of your choice, hifonics sub amp, and infinity door speakers.

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RE: Help me build my system please, thanks :) - 4/20/2008 8:28:53 PM   
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the power rating of the speaker is the least important number to look at. When matching a speaker to an amp make sure that the impedence(ohms) match before you worry about the speakers power rating.



yeah, i figured that much. i remember a little bit from my physics class

@flood, are infinity products good quality?

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RE: Help me build my system please, thanks :) - 4/20/2008 8:40:44 PM   
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No, they are not good quality.

You have $500.00 for sub(s), amp(s), and a You might as well get a comp set.

Are You going to be doing the install, or is he paying for it?

You look at a box being around $45 if You can build one Yourself.

Never buy a pre-fab box.

Wiring is around $30-$35.

Basically close to $100.00 just for the neccesities.

Which leaves You with 400 for the 'system.'

Why don't You buy a quality componet set with an amp and upgrade from there?


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RE: Help me build my system please, thanks :) - 4/21/2008 5:06:18 AM   
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^^ buy 500$ worth of junk or buy a nice front stage that would most likely sound better then the entire 500$ system.

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RE: Help me build my system please, thanks :) - 4/21/2008 5:54:04 AM   
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ive had infinity regular and components for years and theyve always been reliable and sound really good.

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RE: Help me build my system please, thanks :) - 4/21/2008 6:14:36 AM   
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ive had infinity regular and components for years and theyve always been reliable and sound really good.


I qould expect nothing less from someone with terrible taste.




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RE: Help me build my system please, thanks :) - 4/21/2008 6:55:49 AM   
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^^ well im sure they sound good when compared to the sony's in the display next to them. Find a car that has focal/cdt/etc and ull see what highs and mids are really suppose to sound like.

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RE: Help me build my system please, thanks :) - 4/21/2008 7:18:33 AM   
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Well i was looking into the eD nine.2 amp and two 13kv.2's in a nice custom box that i will be building. Dont factor the cost of the box material into this, i have tons of material i can use.

thats 357 from eD with the package builder, or i can step it up to the nine.2x for like 25$ more which might give me more headroom to upgrade in the future

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RE: Help me build my system please, thanks :) - 4/21/2008 8:56:16 AM   
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ive had infinity regular and components for years and theyve always been reliable and sound really good.


I qould expect nothing less from someone with terrible taste.





Wow that sounded pretty gay! good one! ass. sorry my "taste" isnt good enough for you guys.

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RE: Help me build my system please, thanks :) - 4/21/2008 9:12:07 AM   
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ive had infinity regular and components for years and theyve always been reliable and sound really good.


I qould expect nothing less from someone with terrible taste.





Wow that sounded pretty gay! good one! ass. sorry my "taste" isnt good enough for you guys.


Any reason You're still here?


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RE: Help me build my system please, thanks :) - 4/21/2008 9:40:49 AM   
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I would definitely look into amp and comps for your front stage before anything else.  Also, do you have an aftermarket H/U yet?  I would make THAT your number one priority since that is the most expensive piece (usually).  I wish I would have saved up for my H/U first.

BUT, the 9.2 is going to give you more like 130-140 watts per channel, which would be more than enough for almost any component set.  But if you do go with eD products, then go for the 9.2x if it is only $25 more.  I have the 6000s and the 9.2 and it should be plenty for my front stage.

Also consider Diamond Hex's, CDT's, Rainbow's, Crystal's, DLS's. 

ACTUALLY!!!  Why not get the eD special on the DLS comps and 9.2 for $375????  That deal is ridiculous. 

Don't try to do the whole system on $500.  Do it in stages.  You'll be much happier in the end. 

And stay away from MOST things mainstream.

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RE: Help me build my system please, thanks :) - 4/21/2008 10:48:00 AM   
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Hey man im sorry. im sick, i dont feel good, and im awnery today. i love car audio, but im more into bass and loudness then anything else. i have 2 15 kicker l7s and 2 hifonics 1600 amps.

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RE: Help me build my system please, thanks :) - 4/21/2008 5:33:55 PM   
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Hey man im sorry. im sick, i dont feel good, and im awnery today. i love car audio, but im more into bass and loudness then anything else. i have 2 15 kicker l7s and 2 hifonics 1600 amps.


I'm into music that gets loud and still sounds good.

If You are interested in some info on that then let me know.


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RE: Help me build my system please, thanks :) - 4/21/2008 6:04:36 PM   
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I would definitely look into amp and comps for your front stage before anything else. Also, do you have an aftermarket H/U yet? I would make THAT your number one priority since that is the most expensive piece (usually). I wish I would have saved up for my H/U first.

BUT, the 9.2 is going to give you more like 130-140 watts per channel, which would be more than enough for almost any component set. But if you do go with eD products, then go for the 9.2x if it is only $25 more. I have the 6000s and the 9.2 and it should be plenty for my front stage.

Also consider Diamond Hex's, CDT's, Rainbow's, Crystal's, DLS's.

ACTUALLY!!! Why not get the eD special on the DLS comps and 9.2 for $375???? That deal is ridiculous.

Don't try to do the whole system on $500. Do it in stages. You'll be much happier in the end.

And stay away from MOST things mainstream.



Yeah im planning on doing it in stages... I was hoping id be able to squak two front stage speakers out of the 500$, but i guess id rather not.

Could you explain what a comp is?

And yes, i have an aftermarket headunit. Pioneer 6900ub


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RE: Help me build my system please, thanks :) - 4/21/2008 7:58:54 PM   
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This is a good entry level comp set...

http://www.woofersetc.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=product.display&Product_ID=5207 $99


If you really want to stick to a $500 budget. Get yourself a couple profile amps from ikesound like these and the comp set. They will last for a long time and sound great for the money, but you will want to upgrade at a later time...

http://ikesound.com/product-product_id/2839 for comps $55

http://ikesound.com/product-product_id/2836 for subs $73





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RE: Help me build my system please, thanks :) - 4/21/2008 8:29:36 PM   
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comp = componant speaker meaning the tweeter and woofer are seperated, and the signal is seperated at the cross-over that is included with the speakers.  These cross-overs typically eat a little bit of your amps power, but the speaker is better utilized by playing the frequencies determined by the x-over.

Comp can also follow anything kicker makes, and this refers to competition.  I am not sure when or where "COMP" became part of kickers name but it has been at least a decade since I have heard the word kicker, followed by anything but "COMP".......  Not everything kicker makes is competition ready.

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RE: Help me build my system please, thanks :) - 4/21/2008 8:50:36 PM   
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Thanks for the info

Okay, so im looking into those 13ov.2's at eD, but if i want to run two, i need a nine.1 and not a nine.2x, but for 70$ is a steal. Would I be better off purchasing two now, buying a nine.2x, running one for now, then when i do a full front stage upgrade, use the nine.2x for the front stage and purchase a nine.1 to run both subs?

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