if we get out of our spending free-for-all (aka the war in Iraq and this stupid $600 stimulus package), the dollar will recover and **** will get cheaper because of the exchange rates, for one thing. anything that is imported becomes instantly more expensive when the dollar weakens. something like 70% of the stuff produced in the world is consumed by our nation, so that should tell you a lot of our stuff is more expensive because of weak currency.
You think the war in Iraq is costing us too much? Boy, am I confused. I have been hammered with the propaganda that it is the Iraq war and the war on terror that is bankrupting us. I now find that to be RIDICULOUS. I hope the following 14 reasons are forwarded over and over again until they are read so many times that the reader gets sick of reading them. I have included the URL's for verification of all the following facts.
1. $11 Billion to $22 billion is spent on welfare to illegal aliens each year by state governments. Verify at: http://tinyurl.com/zob77
2. $2.2 Billion dollars a year is spent on food assistance programs such as food stamps, WIC, and free school lunches for illegal aliens. Verify at: http://www.cis..org/articles/2004/fiscalexec.html
10. The illegal aliens in the United States have a crime rate that's two and a half times that of white non-illegal aliens. In particular, their children, are going to make a huge additional crime problem in the US . Verify at: http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0606/12/ldt.01.html
11. During the year of 2005 there were 4 to 10 MILLION illegal aliens that crossed our Southern Border also, as many as 19,500 illegal aliens from Terrorist Countries. Millions of pounds of drugs, cocaine, meth, heroin and marijuana, crossed into the U. S from the Southern border. Verify at: Homeland Security Report: http://tinyurl.com/t9sht
12. The National Policy Institute, 'estimated that the total cost of mass deportation would be between $206 and $230 billion or an average cost of between $41 and $46 billion annually over a five year period.' Verify at: http:// www.nationalpolicyinstitute.org/pdf/deportation.pdf
14. 'The Dark Side of Illegal Immigration: Nearly One Million Sex Crimes Committed by Illegal Immigrants In the US.' Verify at: http://www.drdsk.com/articleshtml
The total cost is a whopping $ 338.3 BILLION DOLLARS A YEAR.
ok, and what did our president and congress do about any of that illegal immigrant problems? seems to me that mccain was heading some sort of bipartisan solution to that problem, but the idiot "conservatives" (I put that in quotes because the conservatives in power, especially the president, are not even close to economically conservative by any measure) in this nation decided that doing absolutely jack **** was better than a step in the right direction. hell, the one time bush actually tried to do something right, his own camp screwed him over.
please, tell us how much money those illegal aliens save us if you're so full of facts. having them around is similar to have a tax cut, and everybody who can't think two minutes into the future loves a tax cut or "economic stimulus packages" because it puts more money in their pocket, even if it screws us in the long run. how are illegal aliens any different? I'm sure they are only here because they cost everyone money, and nobody makes
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Most people I meet who complain about gas prices drive full size trucks and SUV's. Duh....did they not learn anything from the 1970's? Both our Mustangs get mid to upper 20's mpg so it's not hurting us that bad.
lol..God I love that.. but...bear with me for a second..
let's pretend Hillary or Barrack get elected. Nation goes to **** more than it 'is' now. Terrorist attacks months after taking office. Iraq is abandoned and left even worse..etc..etc.
Even if all this happened, it would not be the current presidents fault. Somehow, it would all go back to Bush.
kinda like how 9/11 was clinton's fault? and yes, it is obvious that the election of obama or clinton will logically lead to terrorist attacks.
it seems to me that many americans have picked a side and nothing anyone says is going to matter. this is not a sports team, loyalty is absolutely stupid, and pretty damn ridiculous.
think about what a trillion dollars pumped into OUR nation instead of iraq would do. we might actually have secure borders and port security and decent schools. people are so concerned with these issues, but ask them to pay for it and they no longer care about the issues.
the democrats in congress don't actually have enough majority to do anything on their own without help from the republicans, in case you dont know that. neither one of those idiot camps do anything. many people voting for obama are not doing so because he is a democrat, they are doing so because he actually has good ideas and an intelligent, logical point of view when he talks. I've never voted for a democrat for any major office in my life, yet I'm leaning heavily towards obama. when I voted for governers or presidents, none of them have been democrats. I voted for that asshole bush, the other asshole ralph nader, and I voted for the governator and some asshat named bill simon before that.
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Heck BOTTELD WATER Costs more than Gas you see no one complianing about that. There ya go Stop buying bottled water get a water filter and used saved money on gas...I would Also say Keep your foot out of it .......but anyone with a V8 Stang this is just not going to happen.
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PS Us Canadians are getting hit even harder up here and you don`t see us Bitching.....we just head over the boarder and payless
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I like how ALL people complaining drive V8's. I drive a turbo four NEEDING premo which is $5.00 a gallon where I am, I get 12 MPG if I'm always in it but I'm not bitching... But then again the feeling of the turbo kicking in takes all the pain of gas prices out the window
Stop bitching and make your own gas if prices are to high
--- The only way i see prices going to go down is everyone comes together as a whole and actually does something about it.
But seeing how we only worry about ourselves, be it because: We dont care enough We're too concerned with our own personal lives Too selfish Pessimistic about solutions ect, ect, ect...pick your poison
Instead we will continue to point fingers and say its this and that or if only we did this. Ultimately doing ABSOLUTELY NOTHING about it except cry like babies missing our bottles
lol..God I love that.. but...bear with me for a second..
let's pretend Hillary or Barrack get elected. Nation goes to **** more than it 'is' now. Terrorist attacks months after taking office. Iraq is abandoned and left even worse..etc..etc.
Even if all this happened, it would not be the current presidents fault. Somehow, it would all go back to Bush.
kinda like how 9/11 was clinton's fault? and yes, it is obvious that the election of obama or clinton will logically lead to terrorist attacks.
it seems to me that many americans have picked a side and nothing anyone says is going to matter. this is not a sports team, loyalty is absolutely stupid, and pretty damn ridiculous.
think about what a trillion dollars pumped into OUR nation instead of iraq would do. we might actually have secure borders and port security and decent schools. people are so concerned with these issues, but ask them to pay for it and they no longer care about the issues.
the democrats in congress don't actually have enough majority to do anything on their own without help from the republicans, in case you dont know that. neither one of those idiot camps do anything. many people voting for obama are not doing so because he is a democrat, they are doing so because he actually has good ideas and an intelligent, logical point of view when he talks. I've never voted for a democrat for any major office in my life, yet I'm leaning heavily towards obama. when I voted for governers or presidents, none of them have been democrats. I voted for that asshole bush, the other asshole ralph nader, and I voted for the governator and some asshat named bill simon before that.
You suck at inferring.
1. While there were chances in the early to mid '90s to get Bin Laden, and those chances were passed on by the Clinton administration, I personally don't think that is the cause for the 9-11 attacks. Even had he been killed, someone else would have came up with a similar idea.
2. I never said that just because a left-wing senator got elected as president, that terrorist attacks would magically happen. I'm saying if one of them gets elected, and then a terrorist attack happens (following along) then the blame will be placed on President Bush, and how he did'nt do enough to protect us.
The picking a side thing is obvious. And it works both ways. While I see nothing wrong with having a set of views, and from there not being able to agree with the opposite party, the absolute distaste and unwillingness to listen is stupid.
I consider myself a VERY conservative midwesterner. I have no reason not to be. And as such, there is NOTHING about either of the two Democratic runners that even peaks my interest.
That's not to say I particularly like McCain, there's just nothing about the other two that is remotely in line with the way I think.
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lol..God I love that.. but...bear with me for a second..
let's pretend Hillary or Barrack get elected. Nation goes to **** more than it 'is' now. Terrorist attacks months after taking office. Iraq is abandoned and left even worse..etc..etc.
Even if all this happened, it would not be the current presidents fault. Somehow, it would all go back to Bush.
kinda like how 9/11 was clinton's fault? and yes, it is obvious that the election of obama or clinton will logically lead to terrorist attacks.
it seems to me that many americans have picked a side and nothing anyone says is going to matter. this is not a sports team, loyalty is absolutely stupid, and pretty damn ridiculous.
think about what a trillion dollars pumped into OUR nation instead of iraq would do. we might actually have secure borders and port security and decent schools. people are so concerned with these issues, but ask them to pay for it and they no longer care about the issues.
the democrats in congress don't actually have enough majority to do anything on their own without help from the republicans, in case you dont know that. neither one of those idiot camps do anything. many people voting for obama are not doing so because he is a democrat, they are doing so because he actually has good ideas and an intelligent, logical point of view when he talks. I've never voted for a democrat for any major office in my life, yet I'm leaning heavily towards obama. when I voted for governers or presidents, none of them have been democrats. I voted for that asshole bush, the other asshole ralph nader, and I voted for the governator and some asshat named bill simon before that.
You suck at inferring.
1. While there were chances in the early to mid '90s to get Bin Laden, and those chances were passed on by the Clinton administration, I personally don't think that is the cause for the 9-11 attacks. Even had he been killed, someone else would have came up with a similar idea.
2. I never said that just because a left-wing senator got elected as president, that terrorist attacks would magically happen. I'm saying if one of them gets elected, and then a terrorist attack happens (following along) then the blame will be placed on President Bush, and how he did'nt do enough to protect us.
The picking a side thing is obvious. And it works both ways. While I see nothing wrong with having a set of views, and from there not being able to agree with the opposite party, the absolute distaste and unwillingness to listen is stupid.
I consider myself a VERY conservative midwesterner. I have no reason not to be. And as such, there is NOTHING about either of the two Democratic runners that even peaks my interest.
That's not to say I particularly like McCain, there's just nothing about the other two that is remotely in line with the way I think.
I didn't mean to sound like you said any of that, but we all know that's how people will try to place the blame regardless of what happens; they'll do it without using any sort of direct logic.
I consider myself conservative as well when it comes to economic policies. I could care less what people do in the privacy of their own homes on a social and moral level, so I consider myself more of a libertarian than aligned with modern "conservatives", I suppose. But since you are a "VERY conservative midwesterner", maybe you can answer some questions: since when is spending retarded amounts of money on a war, killing the economy and expanding the government in unprecedented ways consistent with conservative values? when did borrowing money to give people welfare (aka an economic stimulus package) become a conservative idea? do you consider a combination of increased spending and lowered taxes to be a conservative value? I always thought less spending was supposed to accompany the tax cuts, but maybe I'm just nuts.
have you heard obama talk about not spending the money that we don't have? when he says things like that, he seems to be more conservative, if you actually think about what it means fiscally, than the current people in power. he may not be conservative socially, but at least he's fiscally responsible. or maybe fiscal responsibility is no longer an conservative idea... I haven't been listening to the AM radio so I wouldn't know what flavor of the day the "conservatives" like with their values. they seem to change daily, depending on what that idiot bush is doing.
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you'd rather your money go to help the iraqis who don't even care enough about their own country to skip their summer vacation while our troops are dying instead of trying to educate the kids in your own country so that they eventually make your country better? interesting point of view.
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