Did anyone watch it? What a horrible display from the moderators. They asked ALMOST nothing about any actual issues. Infact the main issue they pressed on and on and on about was capital gains taxes?? How many people does that actually effect? These debates are supposed to press candidates on issues like gun control, immigration, taxes, high gas prices, the mortgage crisis, forclosure problems, or numerous other things.. There are literally hundreds of things that could be asked that would be much more relevent.. Half the questions were illicited a full on /facepalm reaction.. uhhg.


This is a great article about it I noticed on fark this morning:
http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/attytood/An_open_letter_to_Charlie_Gibson_and_George_Stepha napoulos.html

You don't really think the Lib media is going to make it's darlings look bad before the election do you??? [:'(]

I think cap gains taxes are a concern.

but I didn't see the debate, I've pretty much given up on that crap. none of the candidates directly answer the questions addressed to them, anyway.

ORIGINAL: okbfd

You don't really think the Lib media is going to make it's darlings look bad before the election do you??? [:'(]


Did you watch the debate? It wasnt that there was softball questions, or liberal policy questions that the candidates could use to make themselves look good.. oranything like that.. there were just inane dumb questions that seemed more like they were trying to make them candidates look bad or make the entire country look like a bunch of fools to the rest of the world. I would bitch about softball questions also.. but seriously.. some of the questions were just mind boggling..

These two questions stick out the most to me:
"Senator Obama, does Rev. Wright love America as much as you do?"

and

"Senator Obama, do you believe in the flag?" - Seriously... what the ****? Is the flag now the easter bunny? They can ask this stupid ass question, but not a single question about our relationship with China? Or gas prices? Or immigration?

Those arent softball questions.. those are mentally retarded questions. Both candidates looked like they were trying not to just rip into the moderators asses, and were actually having to bring up relevent topics on their own. It was absolutely pathetic. ABC should never be allowed to host another debate after that.

ORIGINAL: HaV

Did anyone watch it? What a horrible display from the moderators. They asked ALMOST nothing about any actual issues. Infact the main issue they pressed on and on and on about was capital gains taxes?? How many people does that actually effect? These debates are supposed to press candidates on issues like gun control, immigration, taxes, high gas prices, the mortgage crisis, forclosure problems, or numerous other things.. There are literally hundreds of things that could be asked that would be much more relevent.. Half the questions were illicited a full on /facepalm reaction.. uhhg.


This is a great article about it I noticed on fark this morning:
http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/attytood/An_open_letter_to_Charlie_Gibson_and_George_Stepha napoulos.html




heh....not really a suprise to me. were they paid by the candidates?


i really can't believe some of this ****ing **** that i see/hear about the possible presidents. the big thing they talk about is the war (if i'm wrong feel free to point it out)....and not much else. i guess it just falls back on what the public wants to hear because i don't really believe many people care much about the other important issues, unless it affects them directly (in this case, it is the war because so many families have loved ones overseas fighting for us).

basically, it reminds me of a girl joining MF and starting a thread. then several OTers post TITS OR GTFO, and the girl gives them TITS (what they want, much like what the general public wants to hear from presidential candidates)...which results with several members saying 'ya i wanna **** you' despite not knowing if its really a dude or if they have STDs....or seeing any other part of their body, or even knowing how old they are (or is the pic even photoshopped?).

i bet if jay leno went out to the streets and asked 20 people who they are going to vote for and why, few of them would say because they agree on the majority of the issues at hand in the USA. good **** america....are the current/previous presidents really to blame?

ORIGINAL: HaV

ORIGINAL: okbfd

You don't really think the Lib media is going to make it's darlings look bad before the election do you??? [:'(]


Did you watch the debate? It wasnt that there was softball questions, or liberal policy questions that the candidates could use to make themselves look good.. oranything like that.. there were just inane dumb questions that seemed more like they were trying to make them candidates look bad or make the entire country look like a bunch of fools to the rest of the world. I would bitch about softball questions also.. but seriously.. some of the questions were just mind boggling..

These two questions stick out the most to me:
"Senator Obama, does Rev. Wright love America as much as you do?"

and

"Senator Obama, do you believe in the flag?" - Seriously... what the ****? Is the flag now the easter bunny? They can ask this stupid ass question, but not a single question about our relationship with China? Or gas prices? Or immigration?

Those arent softball questions.. those are mentally retarded questions. Both candidates looked like they were trying not to just rip into the moderators asses, and were actually having to bring up relevent topics on their own. It was absolutely pathetic. ABC should never be allowed to host another debate after that.






seems to me that these are the kinds of things that concern middle america. how many times have you seen people mention the falsehoods of obama being a muslim who got sworn into office on a koran and refuses to salute the flag as a big reason why they won't vote for him? sounds like they were catering to the majority of americans with the stupid questions. the politicians aren't stupid, it's simply that dumb americans have been brainwashed by politicians to the point that they don't care about anything with substance anymore.

ORIGINAL: 99GTvert

ORIGINAL: HaV

Did anyone watch it? What a horrible display from the moderators. They asked ALMOST nothing about any actual issues. Infact the main issue they pressed on and on and on about was capital gains taxes?? How many people does that actually effect? These debates are supposed to press candidates on issues like gun control, immigration, taxes, high gas prices, the mortgage crisis, forclosure problems, or numerous other things.. There are literally hundreds of things that could be asked that would be much more relevent.. Half the questions were illicited a full on /facepalm reaction.. uhhg.


This is a great article about it I noticed on fark this morning:
http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/attytood/An_open_letter_to_Charlie_Gibson_and_George_Stepha napoulos.html




heh....not really a suprise to me. were they paid by the candidates?






Thats the thing.. if they were paid by the candidates, or trying to help the candidates, or anything like that, then there would have been lots of softball easy questions about issues, things that they state on every campaign stop and all over their website, that they can speak completely from memory on. I hate those type of questions also.. but atleast they are somewhat relevent.. There were asking questions that are "hot button" things.. stuff you would hear debated on a 3 hour radio show when hosts start running out of ideas, or on the back page of a gossip column. Its bad when the candidates themselves have to start talking about issues on their own and steering questions back to something relevent.

Seriously, the level of questions they asked would have been the eqivilent of asking Bush "Mr. President, after your last near fatal encounter, do you still believe it wise to avoid pretzels?" There are 300,000 other much more important things to talk about.. but thats the type crap they were asking. I think we asked more difficult questions for class president in elementary school....

ORIGINAL: redass02gt

seems to me that these are the kinds of things that concern middle america. how many times have you seen people mention the falsehoods of obama being a muslim who got sworn into office on a koran and refuses to salute the flag as a big reason why they won't vote for him? sounds like they were catering to the majority of americans with the stupid questions. the politicians aren't stupid, it's simply that dumb americans have been brainwashed by politicians to the point that they don't care about anything with substance anymore.



I think that Obama's associations say a lot about the type of man he is and what his values are. You are absolutely correct that the unwashed masses don't know crap about the issues.

but those things I mentioned are not his real associations. they are completely false, yet some people will believe anything because it is convenient and they want to believe it.

you can find people I am associated with that I think are idiots and to assume that I am similar to them would be completely incorrect. I've known people who I hung out with in high school or college that I would still consider a friend, mostly because I've known them forever, even though I think they are pretty much losers. merely being associated with somebody doesn't mean anything unless you actually have firsthand knowledge of the relationship. I'm pretty sure everyone knows somebody who would reflect poorly upon themselves. hell, I know a guy who lives in a van that I suppose I would consider a friend if asked.

oh my god, a minister was angry at the bull**** that happens in this country, got carried away and said something that he wouldn't say if he were running for president. everybody has said something stupid when they get a little passionate about something. does every teenager really hate their parents?

i dont even waste my time watching it. this will be the first presidential election that i will have been able to vote in. and im very sad and sory to say, i probably wont be voting. not because i dont care, cause i do, i think everyone should vote. but, i dont like McCain....at all. I think hillary is the devil, and i dont trust Obama.

the 3 WORST candidates are the 3 that are in the race. I have given up on the american people to actually see the morality behind people, and not buy into their bull****...If i could, i wouldnt vote FOR anyone, but AGAINST all 3 of them.[:'(][:'(][:'(][:'(][:'(][:@][:@][:@][:@][:@][>:]

you have to vote. it's absolutely stupid not to vote. vote for some retarded third party guy just to pull attention off the two major parties, at least.

+1

the people who fall back on 'they both suck' do not have any real reason to not vote for one of the third parties. if they say it doesn't matter, no it does. if we could get more people to vote and get maybe a very nice chunk of votes for a third party, then i think it would stir some **** up among the big two.

ORIGINAL: DaMach04

i dont even waste my time watching it. this will be the first presidential election that i will have been able to vote in. and im very sad and sory to say, i probably wont be voting. not because i dont care, cause i do, i think everyone should vote. but, i dont like McCain....at all. I think hillary is the devil, and i dont trust Obama.

the 3 WORST candidates are the 3 that are in the race. I have given up on the american people to actually see the morality behind people, and not buy into their bull****...If i could, i wouldnt vote FOR anyone, but AGAINST all 3 of them.[:'(][:'(][:'(][:'(][:'(][:@][:@][:@][:@][:@][>:]



Ehh, in the same boat. Who are you guys going to vote for though???

A political dynasty, Bush Jr., or some black guy who wont salute the flag???

I'm gonna vote for the black guy that people make all kinds of stupid lies about. if hte rednecks are scared of him, I want him to be my president. look what happened when we had a guy the rednecks love.

plus, the guy speaks the 100% truth about dumbasses who take shelter with their religion and guns. "dey took arr jawbs"

ORIGINAL: KTownGT

ORIGINAL: DaMach04

the 3 WORST candidates are the 3 that are in the race. I have given up on the american people to actually see the morality behind people, and not buy into their bull****...If i could, i wouldnt vote FOR anyone, but AGAINST all 3 of them.[:'(][:'(][:'(][:'(][:'(][:@][:@][:@][:@][:@][>:]



Ehh, in the same boat. Who are you guys going to vote for though???

A political dynasty, Bush Jr., or some black guy who wont salute the flag???


+ a gazillion.........I will probably be voting for someone completely different, probably libertarian for the first time. I can't stand the other three.

ORIGINAL: redass02gt

I'm gonna vote for the black guy that people make all kinds of stupid lies about. if hte rednecks are scared of him, I want him to be my president. look what happened when we had a guy the rednecks love.

plus, the guy speaks the 100% truth about dumbasses who take shelter with their religion and guns. "dey took arr jawbs"


Lies?

Excuse my ignorance on the matter of politics, I stopped really chasing it after RP lost all hope. [&o]

the saluting the flag thing is all bs.

I watched the debate as long as I could with out throwing something at the TV. The talking heads were terrible. I could not believe some of the questions.

As far as my vote is concerned. We all know what we are going to get from Clinton and McCain, pretty much what we have now. So I plan to vote for Obama. If he gets the nomination.I think he has not had time to be bought and fully paid for by the machine in Washington. SO we may get some type of change for the better.

I really find it amazing that so many have been taken in by Obama's BS [:'(]

ORIGINAL: okbfd

I really find it amazing that so many have been taken in by Obama's BS [:'(]


care to point those out?



:D

ORIGINAL: 99GTvert

care to point those out?



Nope :D

I thought it was absolutely beautiful. Of course I didn't watch it. But I have heard soundbites and read blogs of their answers and they were SO revealing.

The questions about Obamas preacher and connections with the guy from the Weather Underground are absolutely relevant. These are not people he has had casual relationships with, these are people whom he has known and socialized with for years on personal and political levels.

How does that old saying go? 'Show me a mans friends and I'll tell about the man' or something like that.

He is, I believe, at his core a miserable man that has to be conjoled into wearing an American Flag on his lapel.Hespeaks of unity and hope but sees and speaks of nothing but the anger and angst of the American people.

His wife is one bitter broad too. She was never proud of America until her husband ran for president?

His preacher spouting 'Don't say God Bless America, say God Damn America',

The guy from the weather underground set off bombs for God sake and kill people with those bombs!

These are not little idiosycracies (sp) or minor foibles of a man. These are extremely telling signs about who this man is and what he truely believes. These are the people withwhom he chooses to cavort.

He is an empty suit. A very dangersous empty suit.

John McCain will clean the floor with either one of these inept bufoons. And thats saying something about the quality of the Dem candidates.

And by the way, capital gains affects most everybody at one point or another. Have you ever sold a house or a piece of property? The money you make on the sale of that (your profit) is what Uncle Sugar likes to call a Capital Gain. (Captial = $$ and Gain = Profit). The capital gains tax is one of the most hideous and economy killing taxes there is.

ORIGINAL: okbfd

I really find it amazing that so many have been taken in by Obama's BS [:'(]


what exactly would you consider as BS? that he wants to get the f*ck out of iraq? that he thinks it might just be a good idea to try and talk to our enemies and work something out politically instead of burying our heads up our asses and ignore them? is it BS that he can talk in front of an audience and not sound like a complete moron to the entire world when he represents our country? that this country does indeed have racial issues? that there are crazy rednecks who cling to religion and guns and blaming immigrants for their own failures? of course it's all just talk, but so is everything any other politician has ever said.

ORIGINAL: okbfd

I really find it amazing that so many have been taken in by Obama's BS [:'(]



BS is when mccain repeatedly can not tell the diff between the tribes in irac and until yesterday did not knowthe economy is going in the tank or we arehaving a credit crisis.

BS is when clinton talks about 35 yrs of experience. when in fact she and her husband has spent the last 35 year one step ahead of a federal prosecutor and a grand jury. Both of them have no issues with telling a big lie with a straight face.Ex. going to bosnia under sniper fire.......I did not have sex with that woman.....ect. ect.

ORIGINAL: 99GTvert

ORIGINAL: okbfd

I really find it amazing that so many have been taken in by Obama's BS [:'(]


care to point those out?



:D




his BS is the same as the other two's BS. Every word that comes out of his mouth. Just like Haillary and Just like McCain. The cold hard fact is: one of those three is going to be our next president. And no matter what, its going to be bad....really really bad. I will bet $100 right now, that in 4 years, people will try to re-elect Bush. Even tho i hate him too[:'(]