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RE: 2007 camaro - 12/6/2006 10:33:26 PM   
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as time goes by, and the production version nears, the Camaro is evolving, I don't like it, it is looking like a dodge charger




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RE: 2007 camaro - 12/7/2006 12:42:29 AM   
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im sorry but that looks nothing like the charger

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RE: 2007 camaro - 12/8/2006 7:02:08 PM   
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The press release:


Auto Buyers Have Spoken: GM Will Build An All-New Chevrolet Camaro

Next generation of classic sport coupe goes into production in late 2008, on sale in 2009; will be almost identical to wildly popular concept unveiled at NAIAS


TRAVERSE CITY, Mich. – Dear sports car fans: General Motors heard you loud and clear.

GM Chairman and CEO Rick Wagoner announced today that GM will build an all-new version of the Chevrolet Camaro sport coupe based on the award-winning concept that stole the spotlight at the North American International Auto Show and has ignited the passion of car enthusiasts around the world ever since – even spurring consumers to start petition drives and send in certified checks in hopes of placing early deposits.

“The overwhelmingly enthusiastic response to the Camaro Concept continues to remind me of the uniquely iconic place our products can have in customers’ hearts,” Wagoner said. “Camaro is much more than a car; it symbolizes America's spirit and its love affair with the automobile.”

The all-new Camaro will begin with early production versions at the end of 2008 and will go on sale in the first quarter of 2009. “The new Camaro will be almost identical to the concept, a thoroughly modern interpretation of the 1969 model, considered by many to be the best design of the car’s first generation,” said Ed Welburn, GM's global vice president of design, who owns a 1969 Camaro SS. The front-engine, rear-wheel-drive sport coupe will feature an independent rear suspension, and will be offered in a variety of models with the choice of manual and automatic transmissions and V-6 and V-8 engines.

Chevrolet General Manager Ed Peper said the new Camaro will appeal to both men and women, and unite customers with fond memories of previous Camaros with those who first experienced a Camaro when the concept was unveiled in January.

“We intend to make the all-new Camaro relevant to younger buyers while retaining its appeal to current fans,” said Peper. “The beauty of the best Camaros is that they have always been beautiful to look at with performance that rivals expensive European GTs. Yet they were practical enough to drive every day and priced within the reach of many new-car buyers.”

In fact, the Camaro Concept design team embodies the universal appeal that Chevy envisions for the car: The core team reporting to the lead designer ranges in age from 27-35 and came from all over the world, yet they all had similar experiences growing up with a love for the Camaro and American performance cars. Their concept redefines the Camaro for both existing and new generations of fans in a contemporary way with responsive performance and modern technology.

Peper said Camaro will complement Chevy’s already-popular portfolio of performance vehicles led by Corvette and including its broad SS lineup.

An American icon
The Camaro has touched many lives – and graced many garages – with nearly 4.8 million produced between 1967 and 2002. More than 1,000 Camaro clubs exist globally, and thousands of Camaro web sites pay homage to the sports coupe. A recent report on America Online’s Top Searches of 2005 placed Camaro in the Top 10 car searches for the year.

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RE: 2007 camaro - 12/8/2006 7:12:05 PM   
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All I have to say is thank god and watch out stangs its coming for you

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RE: 2007 camaro - 12/9/2006 2:17:22 PM   
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All I have to say is thank god and watch out stangs its coming for you

Yea........I'm really fearing the 450hp 3700 lb beast.

I can respect any fast car, but I'm sorry..........I don't see the new Camaro living up to or superceding the bang-for-the-buck legacy that its LS1 predecessors had. Good luck proving me wrong on that one. The rules and the market have changed too much.

All current "official" info considered......I'm not gonna fear my first encounter with a 5th gen at all.

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RE: 2007 camaro - 12/9/2006 6:57:54 PM   
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well Ill tell ya what I will put my lt1 up against your 05 stang, and my lt is 3600 lbs let me know when you wanna lose some money and we will arrange it

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RE: 2007 camaro - 12/10/2006 1:10:20 PM   
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This is where I ask what you have done to your LT and you tell me its "mostly stock". Then I have to travel half-way across the country to find out you run mid to high 12's. No thanks. The only LT I've gotten handed an asswhoopin by was a twin-turbo'd T/A that runs low 11's (high 10's on drags).......and I was stock at the time. Since then I've run the only other decent street driven LT in the area (cam and exhaust) and he came up a car short on the 10-100mph race and 2 cars short on a 0-85mph race.

Besides which.........this is "supposed" to be a thread about the upcoming 5th gen Camaro, which is where my comments were directed. So why all the bowdy talk about your LT-powered 4th gen???

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RE: 2007 camaro - 12/10/2006 2:54:50 PM   
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I was simply saying that the 5th gen stock is going to have plenty of power and my 4th gen "not stock" has not been beat by a 05 stang yet, once the 5th gen is customized good luck. lmao

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RE: 2007 camaro - 12/11/2006 6:05:16 PM   
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I was simply saying that the 5th gen stock is going to have plenty of power and my 4th gen "not stock" has not been beat by a 05 stang yet, once the 5th gen is customized good luck. lmao

Well, by that same token my 05 is "not stock" and hasn't been beaten by anything made by GM since its been that way. Not sure what point you want to make there. But by all means, get a 5th gen and roll it our way........competition is good for both you Camaro guys and us Mustang guys, trust me there.

It also bares mentioning that no true enthusiast stays stock and every mustang and camaro on the road out there is like a box of chocolates, if ya know what I mean.

Let's just remember that we're talking about a car that doesn't exist yet, and also that everyone seems very fond of comparing the Mustang GT model to the 450+hp top of the line 5th gen Camaro model. When GM decides what the baseline V8 Camaro model is gonna have, then we can bring in the GT for comparisons on price and performance. Until then, just remember that the mustang line will have had a 500hp pony car on the road for 3 years by the time GM wakes up its own offering under the Camaro badge. And all I can say is that they better not mess it up.

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RE: 2007 camaro - 12/25/2006 3:28:27 PM   
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ok so ive been reading these posts and everybodys making a big deal on the camaro coming up but has anybody read up on fords new production line? Ford is suppose to be coming out in 08 or 09 with a shelby gt500 kr( king of the road) and the new mustang boss. both are made to compete with challenger and the camaro if they come out. and idk if anybody has heard but saleen is suppose to be designing the new mach 1...look it up on google...read about it

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RE: 2007 camaro - 12/25/2006 7:00:50 PM   
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I was simply saying that the 5th gen stock is going to have plenty of power and my 4th gen "not stock" has not been beat by a 05 stang yet, once the 5th gen is customized good luck. lmao

Well, by that same token my 05 is "not stock" and hasn't been beaten by anything made by GM since its been that way. Not sure what point you want to make there. But by all means, get a 5th gen and roll it our way........competition is good for both you Camaro guys and us Mustang guys, trust me there.

It also bares mentioning that no true enthusiast stays stock and every mustang and camaro on the road out there is like a box of chocolates, if ya know what I mean.

Let's just remember that we're talking about a car that doesn't exist yet, and also that everyone seems very fond of comparing the Mustang GT model to the 450+hp top of the line 5th gen Camaro model. When GM decides what the baseline V8 Camaro model is gonna have, then we can bring in the GT for comparisons on price and performance. Until then, just remember that the mustang line will have had a 500hp pony car on the road for 3 years by the time GM wakes up its own offering under the Camaro badge. And all I can say is that they better not mess it up.


I love how you can make anyone you want feel like a complete jackass...  LMFAO!


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RE: 2007 camaro - 12/25/2006 10:32:46 PM   
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 well first off he did not make anyone feel like a jack ass except maybe himself, lets take a look at something you are talking about the "shelby" coming out to compete with the maro and the challenger LMAO ok thats cool ford cant produce a car that is capable of it so they have an aftermarket group come in and redesign their whole car, whereas the camaro is a production car, furthermore there is as much speculation of the big names like "YENKO" coming back into the scene to compete with the "SHELBY" now we are comparing apples to apples instead of your notorious, Apples to oranges comparison "FORD MENTALITY" of well the aftermarket car called a shelby will keep up with a factory produced car lmao. so if you want to talk about factory produced cars ok mustang gt, saleen, or cobra against the camaro Z28 or SS. or do you want to talk about the yenko or baldwin motion against the shelby you tell me then get back to me. and for those that do not think that the after market is coming back to the camaro, well "GOOGLE" it. and good luck with your "****staings" 

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RE: 2007 camaro - 12/25/2006 11:32:07 PM   
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Sounds kinda cool to me, hope this isnt a repeat of the new GTO

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RE: 2007 camaro - 12/26/2006 1:21:06 AM   
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well first off he did not make anyone feel like a jack ass except maybe himself, lets take a look at something you are talking about the "shelby" coming out to compete with the maro and the challenger LMAO ok thats cool ford cant produce a car that is capable of it so they have an aftermarket group come in and redesign their whole car, whereas the camaro is a production car, furthermore there is as much speculation of the big names like "YENKO" coming back into the scene to compete with the "SHELBY" now we are comparing apples to apples instead of your notorious, Apples to oranges comparison "FORD MENTALITY" of well the aftermarket car called a shelby will keep up with a factory produced car lmao. so if you want to talk about factory produced cars ok mustang gt, saleen, or cobra against the camaro Z28 or SS. or do you want to talk about the yenko or baldwin motion against the shelby you tell me then get back to me. and for those that do not think that the after market is coming back to the camaro, well "GOOGLE" it. and good luck with your "****staings" 


The Shelby is a Ford factory car. The Saleen is not. Idiot. No aftermarket group designed and built the new GT500. This is also the LAST year for the 4.6. 2008 sees the return of the 5.0 as the baseline V8. 2010 will also see a bump in power. How 'bout this....The new Boss mustang thats coming out a YEAR before the new camaro will have a 435 hp 5.0 and stripped down a bit. 435 N/A HP in a ~3650 lb car. I don't think Ford is going to have too many problems with the new pony wars. The Challenger is going to be a nice looking car...that underperforms terribly. 425 HP in a car that will easily weigh in over 4000 lbs. BUT... lets compare apples to apples. What are the numbers on the BASELINE V8 for the camaro? There are currently 3 mustangs: V6, 4.6 V8, and a 5.4 Supercharged V8. The Camaro is going to have 3 models: a V6, a V8, and a more powerful V8. Let's compare the mustang's 4.6 V8 to chevy's less powerful V8. Apples to apples...

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RE: 2007 camaro - 12/26/2006 3:00:17 AM   
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I'm looking forward to the new Camaro coming out.  I think it's a rather good looking car.  Competition breeds better product, hence, GM builds a stock Camaro that should be faster than a stock Mustang S197.  We all know the following Mustangs have and how large the aftermarket is for these cars.  We can all drop our pants and see who's bigger, but it really comes to enjoying your car, kicking someone's ass in a race or surprising the other guy with your tail lights.  I'm on my fourth Mustang now, it's my favorite one and I love putting mods on it and making it a family event.  My wife even buys me stuff for my Mustang at birthdays and Christmas.  Buy the time my warrantee runs out (01/09, damn thats a long way away, but atleast my wife will let me do what I want) I'll be running a sub 11 second 1/4 and loving my car even more.  Camaros won't scare me, just like most Vettes don't now.

Bring it on, I'm tired of beating other Mustangs and ricers.

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RE: 2007 camaro - 12/26/2006 4:03:15 PM   
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I'm looking forward to the new Camaro coming out.  I think it's a rather good looking car.  Competition breeds better product, hence, GM builds a stock Camaro that should be faster than a stock Mustang S197.  We all know the following Mustangs have and how large the aftermarket is for these cars.  We can all drop our pants and see who's bigger, but it really comes to enjoying your car, kicking someone's ass in a race or surprising the other guy with your tail lights.  I'm on my fourth Mustang now, it's my favorite one and I love putting mods on it and making it a family event.  My wife even buys me stuff for my Mustang at birthdays and Christmas.  Buy the time my warrantee runs out (01/09, damn thats a long way away, but atleast my wife will let me do what I want) I'll be running a sub 11 second 1/4 and loving my car even more.  Camaros won't scare me, just like most Vettes don't now.

Bring it on, I'm tired of beating other Mustangs and ricers.

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RE: 2007 camaro - 12/26/2006 10:15:54 PM   
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I'm new to message boards so please help me.  What does +1 mean? 

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RE: 2007 camaro - 12/27/2006 6:11:40 AM   
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I'm new to message boards so please help me.  What does +1 mean? 


+1 means they agree with something.  Ussually in quotes.


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RE: 2007 camaro - 12/27/2006 12:04:49 PM   
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I'm new to message boards so please help me.  What does +1 mean? 


+1 means they agree with something.  Ussually in quotes.



+1 (I agree) ...lol, I couldn't resist

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RE: 2007 camaro - 12/28/2006 2:43:48 AM   
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well first off he did not make anyone feel like a jack ass except maybe himself, lets take a look at something you are talking about the "shelby" coming out to compete with the maro and the challenger LMAO ok thats cool ford cant produce a car that is capable of it so they have an aftermarket group come in and redesign their whole car, whereas the camaro is a production car, furthermore there is as much speculation of the big names like "YENKO" coming back into the scene to compete with the "SHELBY" now we are comparing apples to apples instead of your notorious, Apples to oranges comparison "FORD MENTALITY" of well the aftermarket car called a shelby will keep up with a factory produced car lmao. so if you want to talk about factory produced cars ok mustang gt, saleen, or cobra against the camaro Z28 or SS. or do you want to talk about the yenko or baldwin motion against the shelby you tell me then get back to me. and for those that do not think that the after market is coming back to the camaro, well "GOOGLE" it. and good luck with your "****staings" 


The Shelby is a Ford factory car. The Saleen is not. Idiot. No aftermarket group designed and built the new GT500.


Thank you. 

Well 95LT1, I could think of about a thousand responding remarks that your little rant sparked, but in the end.........it isn't necessary.  You "owned" yourself on this one.  The Shelby is not an aftermarket Mustang.  It is a genuine Ford produced mustang.  The Shelby name was merely licensed for use on the GT500 for nostalgia purposes.  Shelby's input on the development of the car was sideline only.  Furthermore, as pointed out........the Saleen mustang IS an aftermarket mustang.  -2 points for you. You obviously don't know your enemy very well.  And like most half-ass car enthusiasts on the net you obviously don't know anything worth taking into consideration. 

Try learning something before trying to swing your meat in here.

Keep praying for the second coming of the Camaro ,95LT1.......right now the only jackass in this thread is you. 

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