RE: whats with mustangs getting owned by hondas
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RE: whats with mustangs getting owned by hondas - 4/11/2008 11:10:59 AM
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Aren't GTP's notorious for having weak transmissions?
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RE: whats with mustangs getting owned by hondas - 4/11/2008 11:11:35 AM
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On the serious note, it does take more than $800.00 to make a V6 super fast and all of it a torque monster. Parts are not that cheap it does not matter if they are from Ford, GM or Dodge, parts cost money.
This guy with the GTP comes in here and start pissing on everyones weathies because he thinks that his $800 dollar parts gets him in the 12's.
Sh!t, if that is the case I want one of those so i can spend 800 dollars and beat Mustangs and Hondas all day long.
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RE: whats with mustangs getting owned by hondas - 4/11/2008 11:15:05 AM
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I just have to get my .02 in here.
Here is Doodad's, a former owner of an 03 cobra, stock dyno sheet.
[IMG]http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc55/07GrabberMustangGT/ErdalsDynorun001.jpg[/IMG]
Now, with the mods Doodad had, 2.76' pulley, tune, intake, and exhaust, on tires of course, he ran an 11.34 @ 121.78. How many GTP's run those times without more then 5K in them? Also, the fastest stock Cobra ran a 12.4@115. The fastest S197 ran a 13.2@104. Stop being a fan boy, and thinking a GTP is the greatest. Take your a$$ and drive a cobra, or a new mustang. BIG DIFFERENCE!!!!!
Also, Doodad put down 455 RWHP and 478 RWTQ.
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RE: whats with mustangs getting owned by hondas - 4/11/2008 11:20:21 AM
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RE: whats with mustangs getting owned by hondas - 4/11/2008 11:25:29 AM
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I just have to get my .02 in here.
Here is Doodad's, a former owner of an 03 cobra, stock dyno sheet.
Now, with the mods Doodad had, 2.76' pulley, tune, intake, and exhaust, on tires of course, he ran an 11.34 @ 121.78. How many GTP's run those times without more then 5K in them? Also, the fastest stock Cobra ran a 12.4@115. The fastest S197 ran a 13.2@104. Stop being a fan boy, and thinking a GTP is the greatest. Take your a$$ and drive a cobra, or a new mustang. BIG DIFFERENCE!!!!!
Also, Doodad put down 455 RWHP and 478 RWTQ.
Fixed. The Cobra is gone!?!?! Say it isn't so!
< Message edited by viking396 -- 4/11/2008 11:26:13 AM >
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RE: whats with mustangs getting owned by hondas - 4/11/2008 11:35:21 AM
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Yup, Doodad sold it a while back. He now rolls in his LT1.
It was a sad day indeed.
EDIT- thanks for the fix 
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RE: whats with mustangs getting owned by hondas - 4/11/2008 11:38:39 AM
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he had a tungsten GT for awhile too didnt he? i stopped paying attention awhile back
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RE: whats with mustangs getting owned by hondas - 4/11/2008 11:45:12 AM
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Yup, and traded it in with no regret for the termie. Which, both of his cars were sweet. But, thing about Doodad, he was an amazing driver. I envy the sob....
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RE: whats with mustangs getting owned by hondas - 4/11/2008 1:32:08 PM
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to beat a termie with a honda, you basically have to have something which is the equivalent of an 8 sec mustang. An 11 sec Honda GENERALLY isn't something very comfortable.
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RE: whats with mustangs getting owned by hondas - 4/11/2008 2:59:17 PM
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The one honda I ran against at the track was fast! Trapping 113 in the 1/4, but after the first 60 feet all he saw was my tail lights. Those 2.6 second 60 foots were killing him.
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RE: whats with mustangs getting owned by hondas - 4/11/2008 3:55:01 PM
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Why the f*** are they still trapping 112-114. Total horse poo poo right there. Hell, with a good driver, S/C'ed New Edges with 380 WTQ trap over 116 and run low 12's, and weigh around 3600 lbs with driver and everything else.
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RE: whats with mustangs getting owned by hondas - 4/11/2008 3:59:27 PM
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Cant watch the videos because I'm at work. And if a S/C Mustang GT cant run a 12.7 than he needs to learn how to drive. I cant watch the vid at work, so does anyone know what year the Mustang is?
Mine with just the SC, no cooler and street tires went 12.5 and with DR's went 12.2, this is about average I think for a bone stock 3V and just a blower. With Meth included high 11's shouldn't be a problem.
To be honest with you, that sucks. Not saying its your driving or anything, but when S197's can hit 12's with just an intake/tune and DR's, than there is something wrong somewhere.
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RE: whats with mustangs getting owned by hondas - 4/11/2008 4:06:35 PM
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moosestang
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To be honest with you, that sucks. Not saying its your driving or anything, but when S197's can hit 12's with just an intake/tune and DR's, than there is something wrong somewhere.
Where's your 12 second timeslip?
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