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Old 04-09-2008, 03:09 PM   #1
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Default GM is putting out some top notch cars 08-09

2008 Pontiac G8 GT
Price range $29,800 - $32,500
L76 6.0L V8 DOD 361 hp
http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/..._gt_first_test

Stock Times
0-60: 5.3 sec
1/4 mile: 13.8 s @ 102.8 mph
skidpad: 0.88g
60-0: 112 ft
51/49 front-rear weight distribution
15/24 mpg

Tuned 13.1
http://jalopnik.com/375060/pontiac-g...?autoplay=true

2009 Pontiac GXP LS3 6.2L V8 402hp running 12.9 second 1/4 miles times.
Price range $32,300 - $36,200

These are Charger R/T and SRT / Challanger Killers

2010 Camaro will use one or both of these engines will weight less than 4000 lbs
most likely 3600 pounds.
if the Camaro runs a L76 it will be a high 12 sec car
if it runs a LS3 it will be a mid 12 sec car..

What is going to happen to the Mustang? heck when Family sedans are running more HP and faster times for the same price
? Ford needs to step up and Give us some more HP I REFUSE to buy a 09 -10 Mustang with a measly 325 hp 4.6L.

I sure hope we get the 5.4 3 or 4 Valve engine with close to 400 hp.
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Old 04-09-2008, 03:36 PM   #2
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Default RE: GM is putting out some top knotch cars 08-09

very nice.

I bet that it has more then 361hp....sneaky GM. [8D]
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Old 04-09-2008, 04:10 PM   #3
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2008 Pontiac G8 GT
Price range $29,800 - $32,500
L76 6.0L V8 DOD 361 hp
http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/..._gt_first_test

Stock Times
0-60: 5.3 sec
1/4 mile: 13.8 s @ 102.8 mph
skidpad: 0.88g
60-0: 112 ft
51/49 front-rear weight distribution
15/24 mpg

Tuned 13.1
http://jalopnik.com/375060/pontiac-g...?autoplay=true

2009 Pontiac GXP LS3 6.2L V8 402hp running 12.9 second 1/4 miles times.
Price range $32,300 - $36,200

These are Charger R/T and SRT / Challanger Killers

2010 Camaro will use one or both of these engines will weight less than 4000 lbs
most likely 3600 pounds.
if the Camaro runs a L76 it will be a high 12 sec car
if it runs a LS3 it will be a mid 12 sec car..

What is going to happen to the Mustang? heck when Family sedans are running more HP and faster times for the same price
? Ford needs to step up and Give us some more HP I REFUSE to buy a 09 -10 Mustang with a measly 325 hp 4.6L
.

I sure hope we get the 5.4 3 or 4 Valve engine with close to 400 hp.
Here we go: A Mustang GT Deluxe runs $26,640 (Base Mustang) A Mustang has proven to go as fast as 4.9-5.1 0-60mph and close to the same(perhaps even faster?) in the quarter mile with 100 hp less than the G8 GT

...At $29,995 (From Pontiacs website) you get a base G8 GT. The cheapest option they offer is an interior upgrade package for $1,400.00. Leather + power driver and passenger. What's that cost on the stang? Oh, only $495.

For that difference of $3,335 (in the base price alone) I could do a ton to Mustang to kill the G8 or simply pocket the difference. Start adding options and the price difference is bigger for the same stuff.

I have no clue where you're getting 32-36K for GXP, it's slated to be "Just under $40K".

Camaro, different story and I don't have the time to look up info on it.


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Old 04-09-2008, 07:19 PM   #4
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2008 Pontiac G8 GT
Price range $29,800 - $32,500
L76 6.0L V8 DOD 361 hp
http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/..._gt_first_test

Stock Times
0-60: 5.3 sec
1/4 mile: 13.8 s @ 102.8 mph
skidpad: 0.88g
60-0: 112 ft
51/49 front-rear weight distribution
15/24 mpg

Tuned 13.1
http://jalopnik.com/375060/pontiac-g...?autoplay=true

2009 Pontiac GXP LS3 6.2L V8 402hp running 12.9 second 1/4 miles times.
Price range $32,300 - $36,200

These are Charger R/T and SRT / Challanger Killers

2010 Camaro will use one or both of these engines will weight less than 4000 lbs
most likely 3600 pounds.
if the Camaro runs a L76 it will be a high 12 sec car
if it runs a LS3 it will be a mid 12 sec car..

What is going to happen to the Mustang? heck when Family sedans are running more HP and faster times for the same price
? Ford needs to step up and Give us some more HP I REFUSE to buy a 09 -10 Mustang with a measly 325 hp 4.6L.

I sure hope we get the 5.4 3 or 4 Valve engine with close to 400 hp.
Believe me, its going to way closer to 4000 lbs then 3600 lbs. It will cost more then Mustang. Plus, that front end looks god awful. Looks like Mr. Grinch smiling.[]
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Old 04-09-2008, 07:23 PM   #5
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2010 Camaro will use one or both of these engines will weight less than 4000 lbs
most likely 3600 pounds.
if the Camaro runs a L76 it will be a high 12 sec car
if it runs a LS3 it will be a mid 12 sec car..

Sure is a lot of speculation at this point, dontcha think? And 3600 lbs for the Camaro? That my friend is some wishful thinking. There'sreally nothing(so far) to indicate that the Camaro will weightany less than the G-8. Those 2 extra doors don't make much of a difference. Just look at the Charger/Challenger. Both of those cars weight just about the same. And both sharethe sameplatform and drive train.
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Old 04-09-2008, 07:50 PM   #6
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yeah the new Camaro looks terrible. The Challenger looks good but weights close to 4200lbs and thats from Car and Driver. so the Camaro is bound to weight close to that. i see them having a V6 3.5 mustang base making 265hp, the eccoboost 3.5 V6 making about 340hp, and then either a 5.0 comeback with like close to 400hp or i could see the 4.6 getting 4 valves in the 2010 model year.
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Old 04-10-2008, 12:10 AM   #7
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2010 Camaro will use one or both of these engines will weight less than 4000 lbs
most likely 3600 pounds.
if the Camaro runs a L76 it will be a high 12 sec car
if it runs a LS3 it will be a mid 12 sec car..

Sure is a lot of speculation at this point, dontcha think? And 3600 lbs for the Camaro? That my friend is some wishful thinking. There'sreally nothing(so far) to indicate that the Camaro will weightany less than the G-8. Those 2 extra doors don't make much of a difference. Just look at the Charger/Challenger. Both of those cars weight just about the same. And both sharethe sameplatform and drive train.
Exactly and that thing weighs close to 4200lbs.
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Old 04-10-2008, 02:48 AM   #8
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Easy to get discouraged if your a diehard blue blood. But look at it this way:

GM axes the F-bods.
Ford brings in the Terminator and Mach 1 one year later.
Ford then brings out the S197s a year after that.
Ford brings out a 500hp GT500 one year after that.
GM finally decides to step it up and bring the Camaro back with avengeance.

As has been the case ever since the pony car wars started.......Ford fires the first shot. GM fires a more lethal return shot. Ford makes its return volley. And so on and so on. A competant competitor.......is a GOOD thing.

If even 1/4 of the stuff going around the net right now can be believed, Ford has got some pretty interesting stuff coming to the table with its next generation lineup of motors. Don't count the old stallion out of the race just yet.
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Old 04-10-2008, 09:19 AM   #9
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i also hope since Ford sold Jag and Land Rover they'll pay more attention to their cars more.
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Old 04-11-2008, 12:33 AM   #10
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All speculation. When they're on the street, then I'll be interested...
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