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Scary problem 3 days after getting the car back... (pic... - 4/5/2008 1:51:47 AM   
_Remi


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Hey,

Just to recap, I got my 67 back from the shop its 289 rebuilt and a T5 instead of my C4. First impressions after driving it around (without reving to high though) : it's amazing, a totally different car and I love it.

But tonight, I was going to a party and decided to (proudly) give a ride to my friends (4 + me). When I parked it, I heard a noise but was not really able to locate it. Then my friends went out of the car and told me "hey look, you have a huge oil leak". It was leaking like crazy from under the engine and on the left side.

Here are all the details:

- The engine and transmission have less than a week
- The car was heavily loaded (5 adults - I am not proud of this)
- I was probably a little nervous when I parked and was not gentle with the steering wheel
- We found a broken screw under the car but cannot garanty that it comes from it
- I check the oil in the engine, a little low
- There was some sort of liquid under my two exhaust, did not seem to be oil but was really scary (could it just be water?)
- After all the fluid in the front was gone (I would say it was oil but very very clean), I had no power steering at all

So yes, I am assuming now that something broke in my power steering and that explains the leak (even though I am still scared to have found something under my two exhaust). But guys, I was so happy since I got it back and I will so bad now! It's not about the money at all, it's about putting a lot of emotion in your car and not having it for 7 weeks!

I am bringing it back to the shop on Monday, will drive only a little this week-end and always wanted to get rid of the power steering anyway.

But still,

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RE: Scary problem 3 days after getting the car back... - 4/5/2008 2:01:00 AM   
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ok my first question is do you have an aftermarket oil pressure gauge?  ive burnt the plastic hose before

also check the oil filter, front seal rear etc if its bad you gonna be able to see where its coming from hopefully considering it was new and clean


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RE: Scary problem 3 days after getting the car back... - 4/5/2008 2:10:13 AM   
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quote:

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ok my first question is do you have an aftermarket oil pressure gauge?  ive burnt the plastic hose before

also check the oil filter, front seal rear etc if its bad you gonna be able to see where its coming from hopefully considering it was new and clean



I don't have an aftermarket oil pressure gauge and the oil filter is brand new and looks fine...

What about the drips out of my two exhaust? Could it just be water?

Is it bad to drive it a couple of miles without PS?

Thanks a lot!

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RE: Scary problem 3 days after getting the car back... - 4/5/2008 2:16:31 AM   
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well its only really gonna be bad without it if you cant turn the wheel do the ps pump share the same belt as the water pump?

you might have the wrong fluid in ps system it should nbe type "f" atf fluid maybe the mechanic put in power steering fluid in it(would look clearish) maybe that all your leaking


you gonna use a little oil during the break in of the motor while the rings seat etc. but it is a good idea to keep an eye on it.






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RE: Scary problem 3 days after getting the car back... - 4/5/2008 2:20:00 AM   
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well its only really gonna be bad without it if you cant turn the wheel do the ps pump share the same belt as the water pump?

you might have the wrong fluid in ps system it should nbe type "f" atf fluid maybe the mechanic put in power steering fluid in it(would look clearish) maybe that all your leaking


you gonna use a little oil during the break in of the motor while the rings seat etc. but it is a good idea to keep an eye on it.







Thanks!

Any advice for the break-in?

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RE: Scary problem 3 days after getting the car back... - 4/5/2008 2:26:46 AM   
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if it's just 'drips' coming out of your exhaust, then that can be normal (condensation)
I have that as well.
There's a bit of carbon in the condensated water then, so behind the 2 exhausts, you will sometimes find 2 black spots when you fire up the car when cold and the exhausts dribbing a bit


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RE: Scary problem 3 days after getting the car back... - 4/5/2008 4:43:19 AM   
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Check the pressure line from the power steering pump (comes out of the back in the center).  I've had two of them pop from being baked by the exhaust manifold.  If you don't see any damage by the manifolds, check the whole hose.  Check the return line also, it could come off and drain your P/S system.  After that, start looking at the hard parts and connections.  Pump, valve, slave cylinder.  With all that oil on the ground, your problem should be pretty obvious once you actually get your eyes to where it is.

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RE: Scary problem 3 days after getting the car back... - 4/5/2008 4:53:23 AM   
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Don't run the power steering pump without fluid. Disconnect the belt so the pump is
not spinning, if you think there is a problem. Getting it to the shop without power assist
in the steering, will not damage the rack and pinion.

Do not disconnect the belt if the same belt, is used for the power steering, water pump or alternator.
In that case, I would all a pick up truck.

Jav

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RE: Scary problem 3 days after getting the car back... - 4/5/2008 5:33:43 AM   
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Don't freak about the condensation coming out of the exhaust.  Not a problem.


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RE: Scary problem 3 days after getting the car back... - 4/5/2008 6:16:25 AM   
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altogether you seem to have 2 issues.
follow what JapanGT says so you can still drive it (if only PS is hooked up to belt, nothing else). and the other issue seems to be your dripping exhaust.


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RE: Scary problem 3 days after getting the car back... - 4/5/2008 9:34:10 AM   
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Any advice for the break-in?


Drive at constantly varying rpm's all the time, ie. light to light.  You do not want to be driving at a constant speed for longer periods of time.  Keep it off the freeway.  If you do have to get on a longer road, try to vary the speed to keep the rpm's shifting.  Do this for the first 200 miles.  The idea is to keep all areas of the cam oiled.  Flat tappet cam break-in procedures are vital to cam life.

As far as ring seating, do a couple 3/4 throttle runs through the gears:)  Just try to keep the rpm's from climbing too high before you shift.

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RE: Scary problem 3 days after getting the car back... - 4/5/2008 10:26:34 AM   
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i had the same exact thing happen to my PS. my hose blew and fluid sprayed everywhere. even the headers. which means los of smoke. i know on mine i just cut the PS belt cause theres two belts, one for the crank, WP, alt. then the other for the crank, WP, PS.

so cuting the belt will be fine cause theres another one to back it up.


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RE: Scary problem 3 days after getting the car back... - 4/5/2008 10:41:58 AM   
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I had a similar experience that left my street covered in oil. At first I thought it was power steering, but then decided there was too much oil on the street, and I have heard that power steering fluid looks different. Then, I thought it might be the oil pressure sending unit (you might check that), but finally I figured out that it was just the oil filter. When I got the car I changed the oil and filter right away (literally the first work I have ever done on a car), and in the process the gasket from the old filter was left on there without me noticing, so the new filter was installed over that gasket. Surprisingly it lasted a few months that way, but finally gave out. You might want to check that too.

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RE: Scary problem 3 days after getting the car back... - 4/5/2008 11:19:12 AM   
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Thanks everybody. I am going to post a picture, would not want to disconnect the wrong thing!

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RE: Scary problem 3 days after getting the car back... - 4/5/2008 11:21:07 AM   
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Can you see it enought on this one?



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RE: Scary problem 3 days after getting the car back... - 4/5/2008 11:29:55 AM   
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Unless you have A/C (which you don't), the pump shouldn't be hooked up to anything but the crank.  Go ahead and loosen the pump, then remove the belt:)

Btw, I like the engine, looks really clean!

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RE: Scary problem 3 days after getting the car back... - 4/5/2008 11:33:54 AM   
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Here are pictures taken right now:





We can see the leak on this one...

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RE: Scary problem 3 days after getting the car back... - 4/5/2008 11:56:27 AM   
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Earlier you stated that your PS pump has run dry.

Have you thought of maybe adding some more fluid to ascertain exactly where the leak is coming from?

New, replacement hoses are usually available locally.

Dave

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RE: Scary problem 3 days after getting the car back... - 4/5/2008 12:00:34 PM   
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quote:

Getting it to the shop without power assist
in the steering, will not damage the rack and pinion.


That's true, because he doesn't have a rack and pinion unit.....

Running the pump without fluid though will damage the pump.

Dave

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RE: Scary problem 3 days after getting the car back... - 4/5/2008 12:22:44 PM   
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wow that engine does look pretty though. idve panted that compartment while the engine was out. no advice from me that hasnt already been said, but thought id tell u ur engne sho does look purty

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