Im in need of an A\C unit and my research has come to the one under the dash (surefit) or the big box. the surefit takes the air form the outside and cools it down, this would be a problem as i live in AZ and the sun heats up the air too quickly. the box is big and recycles the air that is already inside the cab of the car.
is there any brand or type that is better than the other. i really would like to cool my car before it hits 113 degrees outside. im looking for the most effiecienat A/C on the market, one that will cool my car very quickly and one that will last for a long time cooling my car when ever i need it,
ATM im useing 60x2 and im melting, i drive as often as i can due to the car is just fun to cruise around in. so in general i wnat to invest in an A/C unit that will cool the car as fast as i can get it into drive. but don't know where it look or what im looking for.
need to get fan shroud, minimum of 3 row radiator, good ac conversion from nostalgic air parts, your melting or the car is? I live in mesa, az ( burb) of phoenix and it's only gotten to 85 this year,, so who's melting? you or the car there's a heck of a difference as to,,, so, please say it as to you're melting,,or what ,,,ps cheaper to roll down the windows at 85 degrees then run ac,, just a hint since you live in az with temps ready to hit 113 degrees,, ever look at your ac setup? ..ps please take your unlimted money and learn to spell and spend more time on the forums learning about your stang
is there any other questions? or comments.... as im in AZ i guess i want the original classic look. is there a updated A/C unit out there... vintageair.com only has teh sure fit that it recemends, and that won't cool it as quick as the sure, but then again if the surefit can cool it faster than the classic looking a/c then maby i can rig it jsut right to recycle the air inside of the car. well i think thats how it works, described in various websites and what not....
If it helps, I used the Classic Air perfect fit kit, and set it up to be infinitely adjustable between the floor and dash vents. We don't get much over 110*F in the hotest part of summer here though. But if you are interested in looking at a kit that has been tweeked, there is a write up on the web page in my signature. I used to install A/C kits for a living. It's nice to see the improvements in design with the new generation stuff. I will say, one advantage to the Classic Auto Air kit, is that the evaporator sits away from the heater core, making future servicing much easier. Classic Auto Air, Vintage Air, Old Air products, etc. They are all pretty good kits, but all of them can be optimized with experience. Now if you really want cold air right away, the best I've seen is a 3KW generator strapped to the trunk lid, and a window A/C set in the passenger window, on what I think was a Fairmont.
I am a Vintage Air Dealer so you know what I suggest. Just installed two of them last week in a 65 and a 66. I do give discounts to Members of this forum. The one thing I don't like about Classic or any other business that does this. Is they try and run down other businesses. They make some false comments in their adds, and I would rather buy a kit that doesn't have to be serviced instead of saying our kits are easy to service. Just my two cents.
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1967 Mustang Coupe, 5.0, AODE, 9 inch, 4 wheel disc, 5 inch cowl hood, American Racing Hopsters. Owner of A&A Automotive in Tupelo, MS. Vintage Air dealer.
Hi Hutch, long time. So are you saying the heater core of the Vintage Air unit is guaranteed for life? It seems these old cars are prone to rusty coolant systems. Hard for me to fathom never having to replace or service a heater core.
Hello Scott. Yeah it has been a while. Just been busy. NNNNNNOOOOOO. Three year warranty on system. I don't know of one warrantied for life. i think all of the CO warrant their stuff for three years. However, their heater cores are far superior to the original type. Cooling system should be serviced every two years at least. If this is done the system shold be trouble free. And just for the sake of it. I have not seen a bad core for any of their units. Old coolant with alot of electrolisis will cause a problem though. The only issue I saw with their units at their facilty was broken tubes due to imporper install or screw run through them also improper install.
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1967 Mustang Coupe, 5.0, AODE, 9 inch, 4 wheel disc, 5 inch cowl hood, American Racing Hopsters. Owner of A&A Automotive in Tupelo, MS. Vintage Air dealer.
Good to see you back. Hope business is going well. I liked the size of the evap-heater core assembly on the Vintage Air kit. You can't get that compact without using a siamese evap-heater core. I also really like the electrical system used on Vintage Air. I think the key to the Vintage Air kit is just what you said... common maintenance. In my (not so) humble opinion, it seems hard to go wrong with any of the three main companies. With you offering a discount to the guys on the forum for a Vintage Air kit, that could end up being a very cool deal (poor pun intended ). Anything new going on with your coupe? I'm about two weeks away from starting back in on the convertible (finally getting around to the V8 install).
I''m going to go with Vintage Air in my 69 Fastback for two very good reasons.
1.) I''ve done the research
2.) Vintage Air is made in San Antonio, Texas and being from Texas and living in San Antonio for 3 years...if you''ve ever been there in August you know they take their air conditioning seriously.
Ok, so what would be the most cost effective solution for getting factory AC working? We''ve got factory AC, but it hasn''t worked in 20+ years. We don''t want aftermarket retrofits, we want it to function just as it should have from the factory. Pending testing to find out what parts of our system don''t work, are the parts available to replace what doesn''t work and get our factory air back?
Thats good question, My car didn''''t had air, so im looking into an aftermarket kit, i''''ll prolly get one in the next couple of weeks as funds are now coming in quicker than b4 ...
Also, im looking into an electric fan and a higher alt, any recomends of places i should look, im sure that i will have to replace mine before I install the A/C system just wondering what amperage i should look into, im looking into a few of them, 80 amp chrome would be nice but doesn''''t matter too much.
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Hello Scott. Yeah it has been a while. Just been busy. NNNNNNOOOOOO. Three year warranty on system. I don''t know of one warrantied for life. i think all of the CO warrant their stuff for three years. However, their heater cores are far superior to the original type. Cooling system should be serviced every two years at least. If this is done the system shold be trouble free. And just for the sake of it. I have not seen a bad core for any of their units. Old coolant with alot of electrolisis will cause a problem though. The only issue I saw with their units at their facilty was broken tubes due to imporper install or screw run through them also improper install.
Hutch, what kind of discount to forum members? I come thru Tupelo fairly often. Plan to add air to my 65 next summer. Dan
I''''m going to go with Vintage Air in my 69 Fastback for two very good reasons.
1.) I''''ve done the research
2.) Vintage Air is made in San Antonio, Texas and being from Texas and living in San Antonio for 3 years...if you''''ve ever been there in August you know they take their air conditioning seriously.
Don''t mean to hijack the thread, but this post made me curious.
Does Vintage Air now have a sytem that is custom fit for the 69/70 Mustang? Last I checked they did not and you had to use a "Universal" system which was not a custon fit nolt in type affair. Classic Auto Air has a system specifically made for the 69/70 Mustangs that looks like it is as close to bolt in as you can get with an aftermarket air.
Classic Auto Air is the choice I made for my 70 Mustang mainly because they do have a system that is model specific. They have been around since 1976 (Just like Vintage Air) and appear to have a quality product. I''m not locked in to Classic and I''m not saying you are wrong regarding your choice of Vintage Air, but am wondering if I missed something.
I looked at Classic Auto Air as well. Was seriously thinking of going with their system. I just recently got my car and since it''s been in the shop I read that Vintage Air is coming out with a direct fit unit for 69/70 Mustangs. Both companies make great units. I think I read it in Mustang Monthly or Mustangs and Fords within the last few months on the new kit they have coming out.
I lived in San Antonio so guess I''m a little partial. If they live their they know how important A/C is for cruising in the South.
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