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RE: delete plates - 4/4/2008 7:15:41 AM
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acascianelli
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Look to whomever started this post if you want to install the delete plates go ahead its you 140 to throw in the trash, who am I to say you may be wasting your money, look I don't care, its your money, what I am saying is don't be disappointed when you do, and don't post how disappointed you are in them after the install, I don't care. I was just offering a little advise. And to all you N/A guys go ahead and run out and buy your delete plates, and let me know when you want to meet at the track, Sacramento Raceway I will be there at least twice a month starting next week, we will see how your delete plates hold up then! If you don't show then you gotta go OUT!
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ORIGINAL: sactown
Look motoxdirtrider84
do what makes you happy, don't listen to everyone else's opinoin, you get what you get for your money, just remember there are other things you can spend your money on that may get you more, but that is the case with everything.
The only people who are disappointed be delete plates are people who install them thinking that they're going to notice a significant difference in performance. It is very difficult to feel the extra power delete plates give.
< Message edited by acascianelli -- 4/4/2008 7:16:10 AM >
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RE: delete plates - 4/4/2008 9:57:13 AM
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MC Stang
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As an owner of an '06 with your basic mods - C&L, DiabloSport, UDP's, axleback - I was considering the CMDP's, but if they lose power and/or effect sub 3000 RPM driveability, why bother? The RWHP gain is, as evereyone has mentioned, unnoticeable. I would rather have a well mannered and functioning vehicle. No thanks! Appreciate all the input.
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RE: delete plates - 4/4/2008 10:05:10 AM
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08Steeda
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I just installed the Steeda economy plates (the $140 ones)...great higher RPM gains but noticeable loss of lower end torque...if you like to run around in 4th gear at 3000RPM's all the time and punch it often for that seat of the pants power, then these are perfect. If you are a mild driver who keeps the tach in the 2000-2500RPM range, then don't bother with the plates...just my .02
Did you get the Stang re-tuned? It has to be calibrated because it changes the air flow considerably.
OP - It also could NET you up to 10 HP more due to an increase in airflow. However it requires a tune along with it!
http://www.steeda.com/products/steeda_economy_charge_motion_plates.php
I have them on my car!
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RE: delete plates - 4/4/2008 11:26:14 AM
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acascianelli
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ORIGINAL: MC Stang
As an owner of an '06 with your basic mods - C&L, DiabloSport, UDP's, axleback - I was considering the CMDP's, but if they lose power and/or effect sub 3000 RPM driveability, why bother? The RWHP gain is, as evereyone has mentioned, unnoticeable. I would rather have a well mannered and functioning vehicle. No thanks! Appreciate all the input.
They don't drastically affect the driveability of the car other than mileage maybe.
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Steeda Billet CMDP
C&L Street Intake
Hurst Short Throw
Pypes O/R X-pipe
5 Speed Manual
Diablo Predator
3.55 Rear Axle
Steeda UDP
Fusion Key
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RE: delete plates - 4/4/2008 2:22:26 PM
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mustard05
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ORIGINAL: acascianelli
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ORIGINAL: MC Stang
As an owner of an '06 with your basic mods - C&L, DiabloSport, UDP's, axleback - I was considering the CMDP's, but if they lose power and/or effect sub 3000 RPM driveability, why bother? The RWHP gain is, as evereyone has mentioned, unnoticeable. I would rather have a well mannered and functioning vehicle. No thanks! Appreciate all the input.
They don't drastically affect the driveability of the car other than mileage maybe.
you forgot for some people they could drastically affect the wallet, all for nothing. (i think im spelling better today)
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RE: delete plates - 4/4/2008 2:30:33 PM
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mustard05
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ORIGINAL: sactown
Look to whomever started this post if you want to install the delete plates go ahead its you 140 to throw in the trash, who am I to say you may be wasting your money, look I don't care, its your money, what I am saying is don't be disappointed when you do, and don't post how disappointed you are in them after the install, I don't care. I was just offering a little advise. And to all you N/A guys go ahead and run out and buy your delete plates, and let me know when you want to meet at the track, Sacramento Raceway I will be there at least twice a month starting next week, we will see how your delete plates hold up then! If you don't show then you gotta go OUT!
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ORIGINAL: sactown
Look motoxdirtrider84
do what makes you happy, don't listen to everyone else's opinoin, you get what you get for your money, just remember there are other things you can spend your money on that may get you more, but that is the case with everything.
The only people who are disappointed be delete plates are people who install them thinking that they're going to notice a significant difference in performance. It is very difficult to feel the extra power delete plates give.
actually most people who get them end up being dissapointed. Why waste 140 on a mod you wont even notice, unless you have c.a.i and udp, i mean come on, everybody thats said they were glad bought them also seems to say they got them with other mods so they cant really tell the difference between mods. why pay for a massage if you cant feel anything, i mean come on, we all want the happy ending feeling dont we
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RE: delete plates - 4/4/2008 2:36:26 PM
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howarmat
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this mod alone will not give you a whole lo of gains. and no you will not notice just this mod unless you do say headers, TB, cai/tune or cams/heads.....then after that, you do the CMDP and i bet you you will feel the gains. It works together with all of the mods mentioned above and allows each of them to get slightly better gains.
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RE: delete plates - 4/4/2008 2:41:44 PM
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mustard05
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wrong again buddy. i had a steeda c.a.i, steeda udp, mac headers with o/r x and a borla catback. my gains were 4 or 5 hp and i loss torqe. heres the real prob buddy. your but dyno is useles when it comes to physics. less torqe down low means less power in a sense. you might gain 5 hp up top but you do understand that are car is so heavy that the extra 5 hp means nothing, if you ran a 13.2 consistant, and thats all that car could do, deletes arent going to make you go 13.1.
< Message edited by mustard05 -- 4/4/2008 3:31:46 PM >
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RE: delete plates - 4/4/2008 3:17:18 PM
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acascianelli
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Howarmat, you obviously have no idea what you're talking about... (lots of sarcasm)
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RE: delete plates - 4/4/2008 3:25:16 PM
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mustard05
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ha ha ha ha ha lol lol lol lol lol im so funny. if you havent figured it out by now, i will fight delete plates till the day i die
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RE: delete plates - 4/4/2008 3:25:50 PM
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acascianelli
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You can't give a single valid reason why delete plates don't work other than you not being able to make a faster pass with them.
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Steeda Billet CMDP
C&L Street Intake
Hurst Short Throw
Pypes O/R X-pipe
5 Speed Manual
Diablo Predator
3.55 Rear Axle
Steeda UDP
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RE: delete plates - 4/4/2008 3:27:26 PM
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howarmat
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wrong again buddy. i had a steeda c.a.i, steeda udp, mac headers with o/r x and a borla catback. my gains were 4 or 5 hp and i loss torqe. heres the real prob buddy. your but dyno is useles when it comes to physics. less torqe down low means less power in a sense. you might gain 5 hp up top but you do understand that are car is so heavy that the extra 5 hp means nothing, if you ran a 13.2 consistant, and thats all that car could do, deletes are going to make you go 13.1.
See you prove the point exactly right here...noone here is saying they are going to make a huge difference at all......5-7 HP probably is all i would expect, and my butt dyno is fine, i didnt feel anything different when i installed them and i wasnt expecting to feel any gains either....i have never once said i did. But i didnt lose any torque that i could feel either.
and if im running 12.5.....add them and now run 12.4.then 140 is well spent IMO.....you are looking at from from the opinion that we all have or are going to get s/c and that 5-10 HP mods are worthless, but for people who are not going to go FI.....then a 5-10 HP mod for 90 (what i spent) is like a gold mine
Personally i think you just have you head up your ass and think that if you are not going FI then you might as well leave the car stock cause modding it is worthless
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RE: delete plates - 4/4/2008 3:31:18 PM
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mustard05
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opps, i meant to say arent. i will edit that. and your right, i do have my head up my ass, it smells good, at least whiole my head is up my ass i wont be wasting it on delete plates,
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RE: delete plates - 4/4/2008 3:31:59 PM
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acascianelli
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opps, i meant to say arent. i will edit that. and your right, i do have my head up my ass, it smells good, at least whiole my head is up my ass i wont be wasting it on delete plates,
How old are you?
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2007 Mustang GT
Bamachips Race Tune
Sequential Tail Lights
Steeda Billet CMDP
C&L Street Intake
Hurst Short Throw
Pypes O/R X-pipe
5 Speed Manual
Diablo Predator
3.55 Rear Axle
Steeda UDP
Fusion Key
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RE: delete plates - 4/4/2008 3:37:13 PM
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mustard05
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i fixed the original post. thank you for pointing that out. and i will say that its fun modding these cars, just use your money in a way that benefits you. do you think i have all my mods because im truly an idiot. youll prob say yes but oh well. i have wasted so much money on stupid things. the 25k invested in this car would prob be like 19k if i only knew what i know now
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