lol!! me and my blower dont need no stinkin $100 delete plates.. lol
in reality why would people with these types of blowers really want them, unless they waisted thier money before going f/i and used them for the hell of it. centri types and turbo lack massive tourqe down low when compared to a roots style blower anyway. the stock delete plate work in harmony with the throttle body, the blades on both pecies work and move at the exact same time. so you loose a few pounds of torqe by changing the plates. with a centri personally i would want to keep as much low power as i can. i could go on and on, but my point is save your money
you pretty close to being correct buddy, i have done almost all mods to this car, trust me, the only way these stupid things would even be worth it, would be if someone was going with a turbo or centri type blower and even then i would say save your money. these things are just another way for some company to take your money. do you know what exactlywhat they do, if you did then in theary these moght be worth but in the end for a few ponies hell no. the doolor to hp ratio is so horrible on these cars why waste it on a useless mod
Well, I'll get right on writing to Steeda and Ford to tell them that some forum member with poor spelling and grammar has made the executive decision that the delete plates are useless.
I will admit that they only add maybe 5-7hp, and that most of the increase people do see is from the tune that is required to run them. People who already have an intake a good tune who install these and claim they don't work fail to realize that is nearly impossible to "feel" ~5hp when you already have 300+.
Delete plates have been dyno tested, and proven to add power. Doug at Bamachips posted dyno results but I can't find them at the moment.
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Here is the graph reference above.....i would day that even at 5 HP for 90 i paid that it was worth it. Remember these help get gains from LTs also and the CAI.....its all about airflow
Spelling and grammar aside (Even though they are my pet peeves - challenge has TWO L's IN IT, and it's excited, not exited! You didn't leave the thread!!!), I'm gonna have to go with mustard on this one..
I mean really now. They change the torque curve, if I remember correctly from those dyno sheets.. The car makes more power, but it's not really useful until you're up in the 3k range.. Further, some members have reported the car running rougher at part-throttle and low-rpms..
Like I said - $100 plus a tune for 2-5 hp?? Seems like there are better ways to spend money and modify a car than to add 30 mods that each give you 5 hp.. That's 30 things that aren't OEM, 30 things to track down, 30 things that could break/cause failure.. Just save the $$, get a blower, make more power, and have fewer things that could give you headaches (it's one BIG mod instead of 30 little ones).
NOTE: The only time I'd recommend these things is, as previously noted by both myself and others, is if you are getting a turbo or a centri. For an NA car, I don't see the point, and for roots/ts, they can't even be used.
your a tool bro. your trying to tell me that a 140 bucks for 4 to 6 hp is money well spent, do you believe in tb spacers as well. you should wright steeda, ill even pm you my real name and ask them to look it up, i bet it wont change the huge discount they give me anyway. like i said ive done every mod you can think of, and its a waste of time. ive had the udp with delete plates and this and that intake and this and that exuast and so forth and so fourth. just because youve wated your money doesnt mean everybody else should, and thier are a couple members on this forum that will vouch for me. and as for three hundred rwhp, ive been thier to. so i also will say dont waste your money on the little things like delete plates, thiers a lot better. and if you think the delete plates are that worth it, when you reach 450 rwhp and higher, that last thing on a centri owners mind would be delete plartes, trust me
in reality why would people with these types of blowers really want them, unless they waisted thier money before going f/i and used them for the hell of it. centri types and turbo lack massive tourqe down low when compared to a roots style blower anyway. the stock delete plate work in harmony with the throttle body, the blades on both pecies work and move at the exact same time. so you loose a few pounds of torqe by changing the plates. with a centri personally i would want to keep as much low power as i can. i could go on and on, but my point is save your money
Roots and Twin-screw blowers replace the entire intake manifold including the CMCV plates. People running Centri blowers or turbos run the risk of one of the CMCV blades breaking off and ruining the motor. I would much rather lose the little low end torque then run the risk of destroying my motor.
For someone who doesn't like their knowledge challenges, you sure seem to lack a lot of it.
thats a joke bro, trust im the last person you should try and school about blowers, centri or roots. and the dyno sheet proves nothing , where the to runs done before the install and right after, how humid or hot was the days if they were done on different days, ive made 462 on month, 446 the next month with no changes and 452 the next, dyno prove nothing when it comes to small changes bro
your a tool bro. your trying to tell me that a 140 bucks for 4 to 6 hp is money well spent, do you believe in tb spacers as well. you should wright steeda, ill even pm you my real name and ask them to look it up, i bet it wont change the huge discount they give me anyway. like i said ive done every mod you can think of, and its a waste of time. ive had the udp with delete plates and this and that intake and this and that exuast and so forth and so fourth. just because youve wated your money doesnt mean everybody else should, and thier are a couple members on this forum that will vouch for me. and as for three hundred rwhp, ive been thier to. so i also will say dont waste your money on the little things like delete plates, thiers a lot better. and if you think the delete plates are that worth it, when you reach 450 rwhp and higher, that last thing on a centri owners mind would be delete plartes, trust me
I'm having a hard time concentrating on your nonsense with your 3rd grade spelling.
Go and find me somebody pushing 450+rwhp with a centri or turbo that still has the cmcv plates.
Unless my eyes deceive me, at ~3300 RPM the car made 70 ft/lbs and 60hp LESS AFTER the addition of the delete plates! So yeah, like I said, they'll get you 6 hp, but it's no good until ~3500 rpm, and below that, you lose power..
Where's the little popcorn eating smiley when you need it??
Unless my eyes deceive me, at ~3300 RPM the car made 70 ft/lbs and 60hp LESS AFTER the addition of the delete plates! So yeah, like I said, they'll get you 6 hp, but it's no good until ~3500 rpm, and below that, you lose power..
i know plenty,, i know a few pushing close to 500rwhp, as for 3rd grade comments, try harder buddy, ive a gave that much of a **** about spelling i would proofread,..,, i tell you what, you keep your wish for 300 rwhp, and ill keep running low elevens
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i know plenty,, i know a few pushing close to 500rwhp, as for 3rd grade comments, try harder buddy, ive a gave that much of a **** about speeling i would proofread,..,, i tell you what, you keep your with for 300 rwhp, and ill keep running low elevens
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From doug
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I've tuned plenty of cars on the dyno with them already but never a true before and after deal. I strapped the car to the dyno and did the before and never disconnected it. It only took around 30 minutes for the complete swap.
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RE: delete plates - 
Seems like there are better ways to spend money and modify a car than to add 30 mods that each give you 5 hp.. That's 30 things that aren't OEM, 30 things to track down, 30 things that could break/cause failure.. Just save the $$, get a blower, make more power, and have fewer things that could give you headaches (it's one BIG mod instead of 30 little ones). 