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If your cobra is stock and your brother can drive your brother will win I have an 02 6m coupe completley stock it ran a best of 12.87 @ 111.98. I did drive it like I stole it.
[QUOTE=david pontzious]If your cobra is stock and your brother can drive your brother will win I have an 02 6m coupe completley stock it ran a best of 12.87 @ 111.98. I did drive it like I stole it.[/QUOTE]
an 02 Vette has more base power than a 99 though, doesn't it?
I still think the 03 Cobra will win...I've seen them take out 03 Z06s.
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I think it is really going to come down to who can drive. I have seen fixed roof coupe vettes (this was the predecessor to the z06) run 12.60's completely stock, but man the guy could drive. I have seen cobra convertibes stock run back to back 12.90's, but once again the guy could drive. Yes the 02 is rated to have 5 more ponies than the 99. I have seen cobras take out z06's also but the z driver was horrible. I ran my buddies z at the track w/ me driving in turned 12.02-12..22 that was with dragradials and nothing more. When he drove it the best it would run was 12.85. But once again I drove it like I stole it. My buddy's 03 cobra has gone 12.98 completely stock on a slippery track. His best 60 was 2.08
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If a Stock SVT Cobra beat a Z06, then the Z driver sucked. I'm sorry fellas, the Cobra is a great car with lots of power, but it weighs too much. It will have a tough time beating a stock C5. If your brother has an intake and exhaust, and he drives good, your history, especially once he hits over 100mph. Look at power to weight ratios!!! Also, to make it fair, he should be able to put on a supercharger too
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[QUOTE=Jugador]that doesnt make anything fair. race what you brung.[/QUOTE]
What's not fair. It would be two cars with blowers, not just one. That's my point exactly. I love Ford, but I think they should try and compete with naturally aspirated motors. Superchargers are fun, but I think should be reserved for the aftermarket. If I put a SC on my C5, I will be running 500+ hp. I plan to do this soon with a Ligenfelter package.
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if GM chooses not to run boost that's their gig, but ford does. why pull some ricer "if i had this i would have won" s**t? race it or don't, but quit making excuses
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[QUOTE=Jugador]if GM chooses not to run boost that's their gig, but ford does. why pull some ricer "if i had this i would have won" s**t? race it or don't, but quit making excuses[/QUOTE]
No excuse made, I stated a Stock Vette would win vs. a Stock Cobra. I'm sorry dude, but unless his brother sucks behind the wheel and he's good, that's the only way. Face it man. I made the blower analogy because that's what Ford has to do to keep up with the big boys these days. I grew up a Ford person, but always hated they had their highest performance car available with a V6. I love the new GT40 that's coming out, and it's going to smoke almost anything, but again, why not go with a naturally aspirated motor like all of the other big players.
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they're going for smaller displacement and new technology unlike the other big players. the only way to stay alive is to keep improving, be it in price or features...thats what killed F-Bodies.
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[QUOTE=Jugador]they're going for smaller displacement and new technology unlike the other big players. the only way to stay alive is to keep improving, be it in price or features...thats what killed F-Bodies.[/QUOTE]
What killed the F Bodies was sales. Mustangs always outsould the F-bodies, even when they were slower. This is the first year Mustangs have put out competitive numbers, a year in which no F-bodies are around. I won't argue for f-bodies though, as I am not a big fan of them. GM really disgraced the Corvette by putting Vette Motors in those cars. Lucky for Vette owners, they gave us a better cam, heads, and lifters. I guess they would do that for $20k more.
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why do you think they had poor sales? they didnt improve their styling, s**tty interior, old technology, nor price.
if im not mistaken they didnt have any difference in engines post 2000 cause they accidentally mixed them up sometimes so they just made them all the same...ask dan, i think he said that.
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[QUOTE=Jugador]
why do you think they had poor sales? they didnt improve their styling, s**tty interior, old technology, nor price.
if im not mistaken they didnt have any difference in engines post 2000 cause they accidentally mixed them up sometimes so they just made them all the same...ask dan, i think he said that.
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Like I said, I'm not going to defend those cars b/c I don't like them, so don't get so pissy. They did have poor sales compared to Mustangs, check it out for yourself. Poor sales is a component of everything you stated. It's not rocket science.
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[QUOTE=Jugador]i know...i own joo[/QUOTE]
Nope, you showed you're ignorance and pointed out the components of what I ultimately stated. Looks like you were owned. By the way, what do you drive?