Raced a S197 Today.....SMOKED HIM!!!
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RE: Raced a S197 Today.....SMOKED HIM!!! - 3/28/2008 3:11:21 PM
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OnyxCobra
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Nice kill. I've driven a few and was not very impressed by the one i really got to get on. First gear felt okay but 2nd and 3rd on the highway were not impressive. Probably needed some gears. Remember they are heeaavy.
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RE: Raced a S197 Today.....SMOKED HIM!!! - 3/28/2008 3:16:26 PM
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r.barn
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You both had similar rwhp I bet from your mod list.
Your weight and those 3.73 gears made the difference.
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RE: Raced a S197 Today.....SMOKED HIM!!! - 3/28/2008 3:21:38 PM
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w1ck3dr1
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heavy? how much does your's weigh? mine is 3450. i don't think they are much heavier if any heavier than other mustangs except the fox. good job fox on the kill. although racing from a stop also takes driver skill, if you walked him from a roll then that more car vs car, but from a stop there are too many things a driver can mess up. many s197's run 9.0-9.2 with bolt on's in the 1/8 in my local area because they can't launch, i have run 8.7 bone stock and now i run 8.4 with a few bolt on's. i'm sure with my mods i'm in the high 12's.
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RE: Raced a S197 Today.....SMOKED HIM!!! - 3/28/2008 3:43:14 PM
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First let me say.....I never knew there was a Street/Strip section....I really need to float around a little more on the Forum 
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heavy? how much does your's weigh? mine is 3450. i don't think they are much heavier if any heavier than other mustangs except the fox. good job fox on the kill. although racing from a stop also takes driver skill, if you walked him from a roll then that more car vs car, but from a stop there are too many things a driver can mess up. many s197's run 9.0-9.2 with bolt on's in the 1/8 in my local area because they can't launch, i have run 8.7 bone stock and now i run 8.4 with a few bolt on's. i'm sure with my mods i'm in the high 12's.
I weighed my fox once.....I cannot remember the exact number, but it was pretty much 3000-even (and that was with my 100lb of custom *wood* Speaker boxes in the trunk)
But you are right, there is definitely skill involved in a launch................and that is what scared me a bit. IMO, A lighter fox with higher gears is harder to launch on the street than a heavier, low geared stock motor......
They will not spin out as easy, so they can punch it a LOT harder....where you really need to feather the Fox so you don't just sit there and spin.............
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RE: Raced a S197 Today.....SMOKED HIM!!! - 3/28/2008 4:56:53 PM
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That notch you have looks sweet! I've never raced a foxbody, but I hear there's a local guy with a shot of nitrous that wants to run me. He tried to race me on the main strip through town one morning, but I'm old enough to know where to race and where not to.
You probably raced a stock auto. The car really needs and intake and tune. It runs on 87 octane from the factory for christ's sake!
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RE: Raced a S197 Today.....SMOKED HIM!!! - 3/28/2008 5:17:20 PM
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nacanitihs
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ya i raced one at the track. i ran a 14.1 and he was runnin 14.8s all day
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RE: Raced a S197 Today.....SMOKED HIM!!! - 3/28/2008 5:44:45 PM
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CantStopTheFox...
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It is crazy.....when I first heard of the new S197s....with 300+ Horsepower.....I was like DAMN!?! Worked Foxes are lucky to get to 280-290rwhp......"How can I hang with the new Mustang?!?!"
No need to worry anymore :)
SMOKED HIM!!!!!!! I tell you, there is nothing better that that feeling of sitting at a light next to another Mustang 
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RE: Raced a S197 Today.....SMOKED HIM!!! - 3/28/2008 5:47:41 PM
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the S197s are a bit heavy IMO - I'm @ 4000lbs with me in it in street trim
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RE: Raced a S197 Today.....SMOKED HIM!!! - 3/28/2008 6:19:03 PM
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an S197 coupe weighs about 200 more lbs than a new edge coupe... I'd estimate a S197 coupe at around 3700lbs with a driver
a 5.0L LX fox will way around 3,000lbs with a driver...
good kill on a strong running possibly modded S197, don't let the S197 faithful get to ya dude, theres alot of em
you will just learn to tune the select few out after awhile
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RE: Raced a S197 Today.....SMOKED HIM!!! - 3/28/2008 6:35:11 PM
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an S197 coupe weighs about 200 more lbs than a new edge coupe... I'd estimate a S197 coupe at around 3700lbs with a driver
a 5.0L LX fox will way around 3,000lbs with a driver...
good kill on a strong running possibly modded S197, don't let the S197 faithful get to ya dude, theres alot of em
you will just learn to tune the select few out after awhile
Did you even read his post? Where do you get "strong running and possibly modded" when he states the S197 was a year old and bone stock?
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RE: Raced a S197 Today.....SMOKED HIM!!! - 3/28/2008 6:54:14 PM
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an S197 coupe weighs about 200 more lbs than a new edge coupe... I'd estimate a S197 coupe at around 3700lbs with a driver
a 5.0L LX fox will way around 3,000lbs with a driver...
good kill on a strong running possibly modded S197, don't let the S197 faithful get to ya dude, theres alot of em
you will just learn to tune the select few out after awhile
Did you even read his post? Where do you get "strong running and possibly modded" when he states the S197 was a year old and bone stock?
::sigh:: here we go again
I see you don't get out much for the racing scene
owner: "yeah, it's stock"
under the hood: (CAI, tune, gears and tires)
beleiving the owner of a sports car saying his car is stock on the street is like beleiving ted bundy when he says "trust me"
happens more often than you think
< Message edited by Morbid Intentions -- 3/28/2008 7:10:08 PM >
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RE: Raced a S197 Today.....SMOKED HIM!!! - 3/28/2008 7:01:47 PM
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i tell people mine is stock all the time
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RE: Raced a S197 Today.....SMOKED HIM!!! - 3/28/2008 7:02:43 PM
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BicketyBam
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Fair enough. Next time a GTO runs a 13.6 at the track, I will assume he had full bolt ons too.
The OP claims to have ripped the S197 a new one. I highly doubt the car was modded. I think you argue for the sake of arguing.
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