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Extra Supercharger Equipment? WTF? - 3/25/2008 2:59:15 PM   
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I have a 2005 V6 Mustang. So, after about two weeks of hard research and all that good stuff on which supercharger I wanted, I chose the Vortech V2-SQ Polished H/O Aftercooler System. And I decided to have blowbyracing.com do it for me. Their kit is the following and the cost:

V-2 SQ Counter Clockwise S-Trim Supercharger
39lb fuel injecters
3.25' pulley
Bypass Valve
98mm MAF Meter Housing
Custom Tuned/Dynotuned SCT X-Calibrator 2
All belts, pulleys, etc.
Everything necessary for the kit.

= $6000 (tax included)

Now, I told them I wanted a t-lok. Which he said would run about $280. Whats a SC without a t-lok on a V6, right? He said no problem because they are taking out my engine anyways so it will just be part of the supercharger installation. But here's when he got me wondering...

He said that with this kit and the dynotune, they take off the limiter. He said I will be able to hit around 300mph. He said that the V6 Driveshaft is not sufficient past 120mph, and after 120mph, the driveshaft has a high risk of breaking. He said to get a new alumium driveshaft which is $579.

Price with new driveshaft and t-lok....

= $7500 (tax included)
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Is he right or is he just trying to get more money out of me? Let me know your opinions of this matter please, thank you.

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RE: Extra Supercharger Equipment? WTF? - 3/25/2008 3:04:36 PM   
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300 mph? HAAA That's hilarious! No effing way. It's impossible.

05s had issues with driveshafts blowing apart at high speed.

If you feel the need to go above 115 for some reason, an aftermarket driveshaft is probably a good idea.


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RE: Extra Supercharger Equipment? WTF? - 3/25/2008 3:34:17 PM   
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If that guy really believes that you car will go 300mph, I'd find someone else to do the work. You don't want some crackpot doing detailed work on your car.

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RE: Extra Supercharger Equipment? WTF? - 3/25/2008 3:40:52 PM   
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RE: Extra Supercharger Equipment? WTF? - 3/25/2008 3:48:43 PM   
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Did he say 300 MPH or around 300HP? I could see you going to or a little over 300 HP. If you push your car over 100 MPH (On a drag strip Please not the city streets) after SCing it I would put in a new driveshaft that is now the weakest link in your drivetrain save up for a 8.8 rear end too.


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RE: Extra Supercharger Equipment? WTF? - 3/25/2008 3:49:10 PM   
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RE: Extra Supercharger Equipment? WTF? - 3/25/2008 4:36:05 PM   
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lol. The guy said I'd have around 330HP and he said he was going to take off the speed limiter. He said I would definately be able to go over 120mph. I thought it sounded fishy at first but I figured without the limiter, I wouldn't have a limit until my car started falling apart.

It's weird, every other place I talked to about the same kit never mentioned any change of the driveshaft. Except this guy, who said because I won't have a limiter, if I go over 120mph, my driveshaft will shatter or some ****.

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RE: Extra Supercharger Equipment? WTF? - 3/25/2008 4:38:07 PM   
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I don't believe the aerodynamics of our Mustangs could support going 300mph unless there was jets strapped to it.

I would replace your driveshaft and you may want to look into a 8.8 rear in the near future.

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RE: Extra Supercharger Equipment? WTF? - 3/25/2008 4:39:09 PM   
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I don't believe the aerodynamics of our Mustangs could support going 300mph unless there was jets strapped to it.

I would replace your driveshaft and you may want to look into a 8.8 rear in the near future.


Why 8.8 rear? What is it exactly and its function? Sorry, I'm sort of learning as I go.

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RE: Extra Supercharger Equipment? WTF? - 3/25/2008 4:40:23 PM   
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Hell, I thought taking off the limiter was illegal, but I guess I was wrong.

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RE: Extra Supercharger Equipment? WTF? - 3/25/2008 4:46:00 PM   
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He's right.

An 8.8 rear is stronger than our 7.5 rear. If you drag race, it is recommended as it is stronger. It's not entierly necessary unless you are going to drag race with sticky tires frequently though.


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lol. The guy said I'd have around 330HP and he said he was going to take off the speed limiter. He said I would definately be able to go over 120mph. I thought it sounded fishy at first but I figured without the limiter, I wouldn't have a limit until my car started falling apart.

It's weird, every other place I talked to about the same kit never mentioned any change of the driveshaft. Except this guy, who said because I won't have a limiter, if I go over 120mph, my driveshaft will shatter or some ****.


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RE: Extra Supercharger Equipment? WTF? - 3/25/2008 4:58:45 PM   
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HOT DAMN SON!!! 300 mph... **** the bugatti veyron, ccx, and ssc aero better watch their asses lol... anyways i think OP was right about those crazy people saying the 300 mph thing because he then goes on to talk about the driveshaft and 120 mph... the guy probably meant 300hp... but u dont go from talkin about mph to bhp especially when trying to justify the driveshaft thing... i dunno why they said that... its hella weird

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RE: Extra Supercharger Equipment? WTF? - 3/25/2008 4:59:09 PM   
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I don't really plan on drag racing. I'm just a daily driver with highway/city. Once in a while I like to street race (i know its bad, but I'm stupid and do it anyways) and I like to go to car shows. I've never been to a drag strip, though, when i get my SC I think I will go just to see how it is since I would be able to compete with the cars there.

So what does this 8.8 rear do exactly? Whats the difference between that and the 7.5?

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RE: Extra Supercharger Equipment? WTF? - 3/25/2008 5:00:28 PM   
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6K install? if I'm not mistaken, the Vortech HO is 4k. That would make for a 2k install and tune???? Your getting ripped off, you might as well go with a turbo at that price.

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RE: Extra Supercharger Equipment? WTF? - 3/25/2008 5:01:16 PM   
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HOT DAMN SON!!! 300 mph... **** the bugatti veyron, ccx, and ssc aero better watch their asses lol... anyways i think OP was right about those crazy people saying the 300 mph thing because he then goes on to talk about the driveshaft and 120 mph... the guy probably meant 300hp... but u dont go from talkin about mph to bhp especially when trying to justify the driveshaft thing... i dunno why they said that... its hella weird


So, basically, EVERYONE agrees that if my car plans to go past 120mph...I do NEED a new, better $575 dollar driveshaft?

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RE: Extra Supercharger Equipment? WTF? - 3/25/2008 5:02:19 PM   
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6K install? if I'm not mistaken, the Vortech HO is 4k. That would make for a 2k install and tune???? Your getting ripped off, you might as well go with a turbo at that price.


I'm getting the polished kit. Which is around 4.2k-4.3k. I'm also getting a smaller pulley.

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RE: Extra Supercharger Equipment? WTF? - 3/25/2008 5:03:12 PM   
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RE: Extra Supercharger Equipment? WTF? - 3/25/2008 5:07:24 PM   
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RE: Extra Supercharger Equipment? WTF? - 3/25/2008 5:12:24 PM   
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HOT DAMN SON!!! 300 mph... **** the bugatti veyron, ccx, and ssc aero better watch their asses lol... anyways i think OP was right about those crazy people saying the 300 mph thing because he then goes on to talk about the driveshaft and 120 mph... the guy probably meant 300hp... but u dont go from talkin about mph to bhp especially when trying to justify the driveshaft thing... i dunno why they said that... its hella weird


So, basically, EVERYONE agrees that if my car plans to go past 120mph...I do NEED a new, better $575 dollar driveshaft?


yezzir... with ur supercharger i suggest u get the driveshaft

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RE: Extra Supercharger Equipment? WTF? - 3/25/2008 5:32:40 PM   
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I think he was making a joke.  Reflashing the tune for the supercharger will remove the limiter (it's programmed, not a physical thing).  The stock driveshaft is a heavy total POS and can come apart at high speed.  The stock vehicle with the limiter removed is easily capable of exceeding the safe speed of the driveshaft.  The much lighter aluminum aftermarket driveshaft will put more horsepower to the rear where you need it rather than turning a heavy piece of steel.  I would also consider the stronger 8.8 (GT takeoff) over the 7.5 t-lok but that is not as high a priority as the driveshaft.  The 7.5 in most cases (unless you slam it alot) will hold up.
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