View Full Version : Factory wheels to 18" wheels


silstang23
03-24-2008, 09:18 PM
Does anyone know if you can switch out our factory wheels to 18" wheels without any problems? I thought it would be a simple swap out but when I look at the wheels I want to get, 18" chrome bullitts from Ford racing, on their website it says this:

Note: For vehicles with 16" wheels from the factory: -installing 17" x 8" wheels, use steering stop 4R3Z-3932-BA -Installing 18" x 8.5" or 18" x 9.5" wheels, use steering stop 6R3Z-3932-CA
For vehicles with 17" wheels from the factory: -installing 18" x 8.5" or 18" x 9.5" wheels, use steering stop 6R3Z-3932-CA

I currently have factory 16" wheels and I'm about to upgrade to 18". Here's the link to the website: http://www.fordracingparts.com/parts/part_details.asp?PartKeyField=8970

07lane40
03-24-2008, 09:20 PM
theres no issues. the just want you to buy more parts. i went to 20's without issues and the only thing i needed were wheelspacers.

Pony_car
03-24-2008, 10:46 PM
Hey, I swear I was about to post this same question. I want to switch from the stock 17s that come with the Pony Package and upgrade to these black Bullitt 18s. Will there be any problems or issues from my end? Thanks...

http://www.calmuscleparts.com/store/2005-2008-MUSTANG-GT-18X85-WHEELS-C4299.aspx

silstang23
03-24-2008, 10:52 PM
I don't know what the steering stops are for. Also do I have to change out anything like brakes? Someone said I have to change the front to GT brakes or can I just swap my factory 16's for the 18's without doing anything else?

4LITER6
03-24-2008, 11:02 PM
It really depends on the offset of the wheel, I would avoid wheel spacers...IMO, anyway I went from 16" to 18" Ford Racing, first we did not use steering stops, then we turned the wheel all the way to one direction an it rubbed.....I have GT fender liners and front facia......for the "Ford Racing" 18" wheels with their offset......steering stops are made for the Ford Racing Wheel to go on the Ford Mustang, small spacers, inexpensive.....but you do need your front aligned again.....

Another item that may be needed is GT rotors and GT caliper brackets.....upgrade to GT front brakes.....I did when I installed the wheels.......

ODDYSEY
03-25-2008, 08:51 AM
I went from 16"s to 18"s and had no issues at all.

boochy
03-25-2008, 09:37 AM
I just replaced my stock 16" with my 18"s, and have had no problem for about a month. I didn't replace anything with it.

wolfpup
03-25-2008, 09:56 AM
ORIGINAL: ODDYSEY

I went from 16"s to 18"s and had no issues at all.


^^^ same here... i dont know what the hell all that extra nonsense is for...

BigFloppy
03-25-2008, 09:58 AM
I went from Factory 16's to 18" GT Takeofs without any problems

http://www.bigfloppydonkeyballs.com/mustang/imgp0353.jpg

157db
03-25-2008, 10:02 AM
http://www.mustangforums.com/m_4718939/tm.htm

And you all are running the V6 rotors and V6 caliper brackets up front?

ODDYSEY
03-25-2008, 10:40 AM
ORIGINAL: 157db

http://www.mustangforums.com/m_4718939/tm.htm

And you all are running the V6 rotors and V6 caliper brackets up front?


Yep, and I have no issues. Haven't had issues with rubbing, turning, or anything.

rock61992
03-25-2008, 11:20 AM
no problems for two weeks stock everything except the wheels and tires

see sig below

05MustangSally
03-25-2008, 11:59 AM
You really don't need to change anything! Especially brakes and rotors lol. I will be upgrading to bigger rotors for personal preference, not out of necessity of upgrading to 18" wheels. I did, however, get bigger tires for the wheels. The stockers were 215/65R16 with 16" wheels and I changed to 245/45-18 with 18" wheels. Taller and wider.

Xargon321
03-25-2008, 12:56 PM
the oem ford 18" like the ones on the shelbys CAN rub on the caliper of the v6 because the caliper is closer to the hub then the gt brakes. all you need to upgrade to gt brake are the caliper brackets and gt rotors the calipers are the same

4LITER6
03-25-2008, 03:15 PM
ORIGINAL: Xargon321

the oem ford 18" like the ones on the shelbys CAN rub on the caliper of the v6 because the caliper is closer to the hub then the gt brakes. all you need to upgrade to gt brake are the caliper brackets and gt rotors the calipers are the same


This is correct, all the other posters that say they have no problems are not mounting "OEM" Ford 18" Bullitts, which are all put out by Ford Racing......

If you have a Pony Package.........I can't answer there, they may have the different Rotor and Caliper Brackets which come on the GT, then it would work fine.....

You would still need steering stops..........I did with 255 45 18's...

Cheers!

Eddie

For Sale, Like New 18" Chrome Bullitts and Toyo Tire "T1R's"
PM with interest......if you have 16" wheels, I will throw in the GT Brakes...

157db
03-25-2008, 04:12 PM
ORIGINAL: 4LITER6

ORIGINAL: Xargon321

the oem ford 18" like the ones on the shelbys CAN rub on the caliper of the v6 because the caliper is closer to the hub then the gt brakes. all you need to upgrade to gt brake are the caliper brackets and gt rotors the calipers are the same


This is correct, all the other posters that say they have no problems are not mounting "OEM" Ford 18" Bullitts, which are all put out by Ford Racing......

If you have a Pony Package.........I can't answer there, they may have the different Rotor and Caliper Brackets which come on the GT, then it would work fine.....

You would still need steering stops..........I did with 255 45 18's...

Cheers!

Eddie

For Sale, Like New 18" Chrome Bullitts and Toyo Tire "T1R's"
PM with interest......if you have 16" wheels, I will throw in the GT Brakes...





That was the question. Ford factory OEM Flangeless Polished Bullitts
18x8.5 50mm offset rims with V6 caliper brackets and V6 rotors.
Does the fore mentioned rim interfer with the V6 caliper mounted
on a V6 caliper bracket with V6 rotors?
Or do I need to put one on and see for myself?

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VictoriaRR
03-25-2008, 04:58 PM
Someone once told me you'd need some kind of a computer flash for the new sized whees/tires so that the car can correctly measure your mileage with the larger wheels. Is this true?

chavalo_nm1
03-25-2008, 06:02 PM
i have the 18" fanblades and have had 0 problems.

NocturnalV6
03-25-2008, 06:09 PM
....When will we come up with a definate answer because as cool as my stock 16's are they are too small...and I will probably hold off on 18's or 19's if there is a lot more work then just a swap involved ( I'm mechanically handicapped )

YellowFlame
03-25-2008, 06:25 PM
ORIGINAL: VictoriaRR

Someone once told me you'd need some kind of a computer flash for the new sized whees/tires so that the car can correctly measure your mileage with the larger wheels. Is this true?


Not unless you put on some wierd size tire.
Stick with a rear tire diameter near stock and there are no issues. Doesn't have to be perfect size match, but the farther off you get the more off your speedo gets(and computer decisions regarding engine management and shifting can begin to suffer.)
Wheel size makes no difference, only tire diameter for the rear tires. (i.e. if the old tires were 27" and the new tiresare 27" diam the computer doesnt' care or knowif they are 15s or 22s...)

Here's a handy way to compare tires and wheels - http://www.bigcustomwheels.com/rt_specs.jsp

YellowFlame
03-25-2008, 06:28 PM
ORIGINAL: 05MustangSally

You really don't need to change anything! Especially brakes and rotors lol. I will be upgrading to bigger rotors for personal preference, not out of necessity of upgrading to 18" wheels. I did, however, get bigger tires for the wheels. The stockers were 215/65R16 with 16" wheels and I changed to 245/45-18 with 18" wheels. Taller and wider.


Agreed.
We went to 18x9 dds and 255/45R18s, no need for any changes of any kind.
AS LONG as you get wheels that fit correctly nothing needs changed.

Sally, 245/45R18s are not quiteas tall as 215/65R16...

Xargon321
03-25-2008, 09:42 PM
ok there is a lot of misinfomation floating in this thread the wheels in question are the OEM 18" Bullit wheels. the fan blades fit fine more aftermarket are fine just the Oem 18" bullit wheels Can have fitment issues on the v6 stang its caused my the v6 caliper being to close to the hub so the wheels may rub on the caliper the remedy for this is to use the gt caliper brackets and rotors. not everyone will have this issue, but it is somthing to look into if your going to get the oem 18" wheels

parched_son
03-26-2008, 09:27 AM
So the problem is with OEM 18" wheels? I had Les Schwab do my AMP 18s and there hasn't been an issue.
Original poster, I'd maybe call another dealership to see what you hear from them. Also, call a national chain tire store and see what they say about changing from 16 to 18.

157db
03-26-2008, 09:34 AM
ORIGINAL: VictoriaRR

Someone once told me you'd need some kind of a computer flash for the new sized whees/tires so that the car can correctly measure your mileage with the larger wheels. Is this true?

Larger rims does not mean larger rolling diameter.
Its the revs per mile.
The 16" stock tire has the same
revs/mile as the stock 17"
and the stock 18" tire. ;)

215/65R16 747 revs/mile
235/55ZR17 742 revs/mile
235/50R18 740 revs/mile
Some people use this size on 18x8.5" rims with no speedo change
255/45-18 746 revs/mile

Now go changing tire sizes and yes, you need a tuner to change the revs/mile
to match the new tires.


on another note....
Its these rims specifically on a V6 with V6 caliper brackets and V6 rotors.
18x8.5" 50mm offset OEM flangeless chrome/polished Bullitts.

local://upfiles/69445/58A5B91F0A7D48A3AC41F7D48EF62FF3.jpg

05MustangSally
03-26-2008, 12:24 PM
I may have had the wrong previous tire size. But my current tires are taller and wider.

ORIGINAL: YellowFlame

ORIGINAL: 05MustangSally

You really don't need to change anything! Especially brakes and rotors lol. I will be upgrading to bigger rotors for personal preference, not out of necessity of upgrading to 18" wheels. I did, however, get bigger tires for the wheels. The stockers were 215/65R16 with 16" wheels and I changed to 245/45-18 with 18" wheels. Taller and wider.


Agreed.
We went to 18x9 dds and 255/45R18s, no need for any changes of any kind.
AS LONG as you get wheels that fit correctly nothing needs changed.

Sally, 245/45R18s are not quiteas tall as 215/65R16...

silstang23
03-26-2008, 12:31 PM
ORIGINAL: 157db

ORIGINAL: VictoriaRR

Someone once told me you'd need some kind of a computer flash for the new sized whees/tires so that the car can correctly measure your mileage with the larger wheels. Is this true?

Larger rims does not mean larger rolling diameter.
Its the revs per mile.
The 16" stock tire has the same
revs/mile as the stock 17"
and the stock 18" tire. ;)

215/65R16 747 revs/mile
235/55ZR17 742 revs/mile
235/50R18 740 revs/mile
Some people use this size on 18x8.5" rims with no speedo change
255/45-18 746 revs/mile

Now go changing tire sizes and yes, you need a tuner to change the revs/mile
to match the new tires.


on another note....
Its these rims specifically on a V6 with V6 caliper brackets and V6 rotors.
18x8.5" 50mm offset OEM flangeless chrome/polished Bullitts.

local://upfiles/69445/58A5B91F0A7D48A3AC41F7D48EF62FF3.jpg


What do you mean? You do need to change to GT rotors and calipers? I've seen posts by people that have done the swap without changing out anything.

silstang23
03-26-2008, 06:50 PM
ORIGINAL: Xargon321

ok there is a lot of misinfomation floating in this thread the wheels in question are the OEM 18" Bullit wheels. the fan blades fit fine more aftermarket are fine just the Oem 18" bullit wheels Can have fitment issues on the v6 stang its caused my the v6 caliper being to close to the hub so the wheels may rub on the caliper the remedy for this is to use the gt caliper brackets and rotors. not everyone will have this issue, but it is somthing to look into if your going to get the oem 18" wheels


So I wonder why you won't have a problem with OEM 18" fanblades but do have a problem with OEM 18" bullitts?

Xargon321
03-26-2008, 08:53 PM
because the fan blade spokes are not as close to the caliper as the Bullit wheels are you might not have rubbing issues but it is a possbility

157db
05-08-2008, 02:33 PM
ORIGINAL: silstang23

ORIGINAL: 157db

on another note....
Its these rims specifically on a V6 with V6 caliper brackets and V6 rotors.
18x8.5" 50mm offset OEM flangeless chrome/polished Bullitts.

local://upfiles/69445/58A5B91F0A7D48A3AC41F7D48EF62FF3.jpg


What do you mean? You do need to change to GT rotors and calipers? I've seen posts by people that have done the swap without changing out anything.




Yes, thats what I mean. A V6 with V6 brakes and OEM16x7 rims [/color]
and changing them to 18x8.5 50mm offsetPolished OEM Bullitts.
Will the spokes clear the V6 caliper brackets? Yes or no?

This question applies to the above pictured 18" OEM rims.
I am not interested in who "got18" aftermarket rims and
they fit just fine". Aftermarket rimsdo not apply here. ;)

Yellow Tang
05-08-2008, 08:41 PM
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/AFS-05-06-Mustang-Bullitt-Wheels-18-Polished-Rims-2005_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ43958QQihZ016QQite mZ260229050861QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWDVW

I Just got a set of 18" Polished Bullitts with Tires (Used) from a member on here. The above link to the site he got them from are made for our V6 with the correct offset so you do not need to change the brakes. My 05 came with 16s $595 for 4 rims not a bad price I got 4 with good rubber Toyo 255/45R 18 for $400 Thanks droptop cant wait to clean them up and put them on I just drove 60 miles tonight and picked them up from him some times good things do happen to me.LOL I so happy tonight

yomofoitzjay
05-08-2008, 08:47 PM
i have not one problem..i changed from 16s to 18s

boochy
05-08-2008, 08:51 PM
Just thought I'd reiterate that I went from stock v6 16" rims to my 18" American Racing Rogue's. No problems in 2 months.

Full Throttle
05-08-2008, 09:18 PM
Anyone had any trouble going from stock 16's to Shelby Torque Thrusts 18x9 wheels? I'm seriously considering on purchasing them but now I'm not sure if I will have rubbing issues

Wishbone
05-08-2008, 09:41 PM
What about the tire pressure sensors? Are those in the wheels and if so can you swap them to the new rims?

pkeough
05-09-2008, 03:18 AM
When we put them on with just the v6 calipers and rotors they rubbed on the front so i had spacers for awhile then i bought gt take offs both worked fine

157db
05-09-2008, 08:49 AM
ORIGINAL: Wishbone

What about the tire pressure sensors? Are those in the wheels and if so can you swap them to the new rims?


They probably didnt come with the TPMS sensors if they are aftermarket
rims unless you specifically ordered them that way. The tire shops can get
replacement mounting bands for the newrims and take the sensors
out of your old OEMrims and install them on your new aftermarket rims. ;)

ORIGINAL: pkeough

When we put them on with just the v6 calipers and rotors they rubbed on the front so i had spacers for awhile then i bought gt take offs both worked fine



Thank you. :)Thats just what I needed to know. :D

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157db
05-10-2008, 05:55 PM
OK, I just rotated my 17" OEM Bullitts and took the opportunity
to installan OEM 16" rim, and a 18" OEM Bullitt to get pics
of V6 brake caliper bracket clearances. Here are some pics.
The 18" Bullitts are darn close to the bracket. There is no
interference with the 18x8.5 OEM Bullitt rim installed and rotated,
but its a little too close for me. I will be upgrading to the GT brackets
and rotors for the fronts. ;)

16x7
local://upfiles/69445/D5B3DCD97F9C45CCB89F35115B152698.jpg


17x8
local://upfiles/69445/5B15F78231E84B30A001ABADF4AABD65.jpg


18x8.5
local://upfiles/69445/2E416920DFE244D6B7F21BF6FC064F07.jpg

jwilhelm
05-10-2008, 09:55 PM
I'm putting on some 18X8.5 wheels & mounting 255/45/ZR18 rubber and have no probs with this setup. The wheels I'm installing have a 35 mm offset or 6 1/8 inch backspacing, and this setup has no problems with rubbing anything. I think if you do have issues it's probably related to the offset of a specific wheel/tire combo. Below's the wheel I'm installing. As far as brake clearance on the V6 with a wheel like mine, you can run a train throught the space. These specific wheels are designed for BIG brakes setups if the owner wants to go that way. Jack

local://upfiles/63501/F8EE90733B08426EB59694317D090C8E.jpg

local://upfiles/63501/77285B4366794074A3ED6CB69F39AD62.jpg

svastano
05-11-2008, 03:28 PM
From my point of view the only PITA is the TPMS sensors! Cost a fortune to get them switched over. It is a real crock that the vendors are offering free mounting and balacing but they don't have your sensors so what good it is it? Other than that the 18X9 rims will fit nicely. See below.

157db
05-12-2008, 03:20 PM
ORIGINAL: jwilhelm


As far as brake clearance on the V6 with a wheel like mine, you can run a train throught the space.
local://upfiles/63501/F8EE90733B08426EB59694317D090C8E.jpg
local://upfiles/63501/77285B4366794074A3ED6CB69F39AD62.jpg

Its not the outer diameter that hits with OEM 18x8
Bullitts on a V6 with V6 front brake caliper BRACKETS,
its the spoke to brake caliper BRACKETclearance,
not the caliper to inner rim diameter clearance.
Aftermarket rims dont apply to my question. :eek:

local://upfiles/69445/26574DEC27E845BEA2ED2692E707F16F.jpg

ptkthekid
06-26-2008, 10:16 AM
Hello folks, this is the original poster. I thank you all for your kind info. It seems that there are a lot of different opinions on this issue. This is what I'm gonna do; The rims are at a GREAT price. I'm gonna go ahead and buy them. If I have problems I can always sell them. It's going to be a while before I can afford tires BUT, When I do I will post and let everyone Know what happened!!!!!!! Thanks again for all of your help and support. THE 4.0 FORUM IS THE BEST!!!!!!!!!!!!

ptkthekid
06-26-2008, 12:40 PM
UUuummmm, actualy, I'm not the original poster. I'm the original poeter of the OTHER thread about wheel swaps....DUHHH!!!! What a freakin maroon!!!! But the above post still applies!!

ptkthekid
06-26-2008, 12:50 PM
Hello, remember me, the freakin maroon. Honest, I'm not just trying to raise my post count!!!! I forgot to tell everyone, I just bought a set of 4 satin aluminium 5 spoke bullit wheels. They are the 18 x 9 version (even though they measure 18.5 x 9.5??) They are stock rims (no tires) off an 08 GT. They have no miles on them as the owner drove stright to the tire shop from the dealership (he has a hookup). I just wanted everyone to know......I GOT THEM FOR $250........ with the center caps and the lug nuts!!!!! IF YOU DON'T KNOW "CRAIGSLIST" THEN GET TO KNOW IT!!!!!!!! People sell stuff on there for great prices!!!!

Puckhog407
06-26-2008, 01:11 PM
16 to 18 andno problems here.

cam2904
06-26-2008, 03:21 PM
No problems here either.

157db
06-27-2008, 09:42 AM
http://www.mustangforums.com/m_5201949/mpage_1/key_/tm.htm#5207735

Some seem to have problems and some seem to not.

157db
07-16-2008, 04:25 PM
UPDATE
I got my OEM 18x8.5" 50mm offset polished flangless bullitts wrapped
with some 255/45ZR18 BFGoodrich G-force KDW-2s and they
DO fit with V6 brake caliper brackets. Mighty close fit but no rubbing
or scrubbing of any kind as of yet. ;)

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FyouGitive
07-16-2008, 08:38 PM
ORIGINAL: chavalo_nm1

i have the 18" fanblades and have had 0 problems.


Two weeks ago I'd have said that, too: 18x8.5 "Fanblades" with 245-45 RE-01Rs. Never a rub, run with V6 rotors for months. Last week the lot kid at the stealership brought my car up after service, and left it sitting. When I tried to ease away it seemed as if the brakes were on. He had cramped the steering all the way over, and I could hear rubber squeak as I unwound it and left. So, it can interfere, but it's not likely, if you are aware and don't hit full lock. I haven't looked underneath to see if there are any scars.

When I first got the GT 17" takeoff Bullitts, I also ordered the steering stops. Never installed them, never a problem, even after going to the Fanblades, then to 19x9/10 with 275-35 tires. But I was aware, and have been careful near full lock.