Posted the kill story a while ago but never got around to getting the video up, well here it is..I had Magnapacks at the time, he had Injen CAI. Both pretty much stock..

http://nanaki.realns.com/stang_vs_srt.wmv

wow i thought that SRT 4 was suppose to be "all that?"...ha

Wow, damn nice kill. You punished that SRT-4 pretty good. I thought they were suppose to be fairly close in performance too, or was the driver of the SRT-4 still learning?

Again...damn nice run. Although...Need a bit of work on the shifting! Good job! ;)

I too have heard that the SRT4 runs very slose to the GT. Have wanted to race one but have never gotten an opportunity.
Is that all they have?!?!

I've been wanting to run them for quite some time too, though I've never had the right opportunity. All the performance specs and things I have read say they are suppose to be pretty close to the same numbers in stock form. It's hard to judge how fast a car is when you don't know if the people driving them are good drivers or not. :(

I have only a few light mods to my '00 GT, and blew the doors off a 350 Z a few weeks ago. Still don't know if he missed a gear or just couldn't shift. Still waiting for the SRT4.

well my dad has a 350z with the nismo package and that thing is putting out about 315-320 hp and alot of torque. lol and i know that it would woop up on ol' me because ive drove it;) lol.

Doesn't the stock 350Z only put out 287 horses? Has anyone else run against one in a '99-04 GT?

yeah i think it does but he was a package where they do performance upgrades and they changed the whole exhaust system and a few other things so it put it up there.

He had a bad launch I think, I had a decent one, never looked back. I'm sure if he launched better it would have been much closer.

Yeah it would have been closer but you were pulling on him hard anyway though;)

Yeah, it looks like he bogged. but hell that's his fault. Nice kill man.

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Yeah, it looks like he bogged. but hell that's his fault. Nice kill man.


I agree, you nailed him off the line, thats his fault.

With these mods, can anyone tell me what I might be puitting out in HP?
'00 GT W/ Mac Cold Air (in fender), 3:55's, off-road h-pipe & 2chamber Flow-Masters.

Lol man, go ask that in the 4.6 tech section, not the video section.

And not much more than stock. Exhaust/Intake dont add really much HP unless its heads/cam/intake/full exhaust, then your loooking at serious horsepower gains.

The SRT driver was horrible. CAI + injectors (stage 1) should put them into the mid 13's. They're about 14 flat stock.

you should have gone froma rolling start. thats a much better compar-o of pure machine acceleration.

edit: just watched it, wtf... was that even an 1/8mile? LOL seriously it would have been different if you went for at least a full 1/4.

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you should have gone froma rolling start. thats a much better compar-o of pure machine acceleration.

edit: just watched it, wtf... was that even an 1/8mile? LOL seriously it would have been different if you went for at least a full 1/4.


i doubt it. the srt wasn't even pulling. he started pulling at the end when mrmustang turned on his hazzards and started laying off. i think a 1/4 mile he would have 0wnd him. like he said, the srt got a bad launch and it's his fault. if he got a good launch and went for the 1/4, he probably would have got him. :)

someone got their ass handed to them[8D]

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Nice- RWD V8 torque and you still got em' good off the line. I would have imagined that he would have puled on you at first and than you would have took him later.

u should post this video in the srtforums...hahaha....ud never see the end of it

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wow i thought that SRT 4 was suppose to be "all that?"...ha


LMAO your funny!

Nice run man. From what I've seen, the SRT-4's have BAD traction problems. I hear they run decent from a roll though [sm=smiley36.gif]

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The SRT driver was horrible. CAI + injectors (stage 1) should put them into the mid 13's. They're about 14 flat stock.


LMAO There is plenty of stage 2 srt4's that run 14's flat... :D

Ill try to race one myself. I know a 3 years ago I raced a guy with modified neon[:'(]. Lets just say he couldnt read my plates.
I heard that the 350Z only does 14.1 quarter mile stock?

I call BS[sm=noooo.gif]!!! SRT4 never lose, at least where im from. They have to go from a 40 - 60 roll like they do at all the popular nopi tracks!!![sm=joke.gif]



Down here everybody thinks they own all. I have yet to race one though since noone believes that i ONLY have exhaust done.

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The SRT driver was horrible. CAI + injectors (stage 1) should put them into the mid 13's. They're about 14 flat stock.


LMAO There is plenty of stage 2 srt4's that run 14's flat... :D


because the drivers suck ass. ive seen pleanty of stock SRT4s running high 13s.

anyway, like I said the guy who posted this really needs to trythis race from a roll and/or for a full 1/4 mile before all of this **** talking takes place and especially before you go posting this over on any SRT4 foprums.

what's this thing about you...."race from a roll man!..it will be a better race"...got to a track..any track.... do you ever see
them race from a roll???i have raced them,and i have driven them.....they are mild contenders,but by far are they contention with
a 2004 gt let alone an 05gt!..

Nice video!! SRT 4 have very bad traction I have bin in one. You have to started from a roll to get that time out of them.

I have test driven a 350z and there are fast of the line but the z slow down when I shifted in to 3 gear. But the z is know comition to my mustang!!

My spec V is the same as the z but 4 gear 95mph it slow down but it is fwd.

My two cars.

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lol, if we did go a full 1/4th mile I still would have had him, I was too far away for him to beat me, but I we will probably race again and hopefully he can get a better launch, I'll post it when it happens. I don't to post this at SRT forums, guys over there are too hard headed, nor am I bragging, just posting a kill vid.

Yeah stock z's are ok but when you modify them then get up and go but not as much as like a cobra of course lol.

Damn.. that SRT4 Driver must have been asleep at the begining.

I think that if the driver was more proficient it would have been such as ass whooping

LOL BS on the stock SRT they suck .. There is 50 ba zillion at the track every weekend and they loose to mustang GTs all night long.CAN YOU SAY SLOW. Maybe if you do this and that ahhh whatever those things suck period. I have some new video of some ill post soon. My next door nieghbor has one him and his gang of friends go to the track all the time and the stock ones sux. Seen one with slicks and some mods do a high 8 once but im very disappointed. And for the SRT fans you can mod any car with enough money and be made fast so dont go and start all this bull about it being some contender cause really it isnt. Good kill dude!! That needed to be posted and ill post some more real soon.:D

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LMAO There is plenty of stage 2 srt4's that run 14's flat... :D


Yeah, and I've seen plenty of Cobras (03+) run 13.8+. What's your point? we should all shoot them?

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what's this thing about you...."race from a roll man!..it will be a better race"...got to a track..any track.... do you ever see
them race from a roll???

Do you ever see Nascar drivers stop in the middle of Daytona 500 and then race towards the finish line from a full stop?

No everyone is a dragracer.

LMAO!!!

That was the worst comback i have ever heard.... sorry man

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Do you ever see Nascar drivers stop in the middle of Daytona 500 and then race towards the finish line from a full stop?

No everyone is a dragracer.


LOL, get the heck out of here!!! no one made that NEON race the stang from a dig. you and JoeB18R are goobers!!! ----but you need to race him from a roll before you start all this sh** talking----LMAO, the stang waxed his ass, get over it. you neon guys are worse then us cobra guys, think its unbeatable. 2000Si summed it up best, may have gotten a bad launch, but thats his fault, he still lost.
(but not everyone is a drag racer<<<still LMAO!!) some people like their cucumbers pickled......

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LOL BS on the stock SRT they suck .. There is 50 ba zillion at the track every weekend and they loose to mustang GTs all night long.CAN YOU SAY SLOW. Maybe if you do this and that ahhh whatever those things suck period. I have some new video of some ill post soon. My next door nieghbor has one him and his gang of friends go to the track all the time and the stock ones sux. Seen one with slicks and some mods do a high 8 once but im very disappointed. And for the SRT fans you can mod any car with enough money and be made fast so dont go and start all this bull about it being some contender cause really it isnt. Good kill dude!! That needed to be posted and ill post some more real soon.:D


Damn Stinger, you're all over the map with this post.

Maybe if you do this and that ahhh whatever those things suck period.
Seen one with slicks and some mods do a high 8 once but im very disappointed.

First it sucks, but then you see it doing high 8s which is very low 13s if not somewhere in the high 12s. I'm confused, would that always lose to a Mustang?

And for the SRT fans you can mod any car with enough money and be made fast
it being some contender cause really it isnt.

First it can be modded to be fast, and then it's not a contender at all? [&:][&:][&:][&:]

You're not making any sense here.

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what's this thing about you...."race from a roll man!..it will be a better race"...got to a track..any track.... do you ever see
them race from a roll???i have raced them,and i have driven them.....they are mild contenders,but by far are they contention with
a 2004 gt let alone an 05gt!..

[sm=exactly.gif][sm=goodidea.gif][sm=icon_cheers.gif][sm=wootwoot.gif][sm=americanasmiley.gif]
THANK YOU

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what's this thing about you...."race from a roll man!..it will be a better race"...got to a track..any track.... do you ever see
them race from a roll???

Do you ever see Nascar drivers stop in the middle of Daytona 500 and then race towards the finish line from a full stop?

No everyone is a dragracer.


LMAO Your not a nascar driver either, whats your race run into you get out of gas??

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LMAO There is plenty of stage 2 srt4's that run 14's flat... :D


Yeah, and I've seen plenty of Cobras (03+) run 13.8+. What's your point? we should all shoot them?


No just shoot you guys, i dont think i ever seen more stupidy comments from an srt4 driver. Just look at thier forums. 40 pages of no video about a s1 100shot srt beats a KB cobra. MY grandma would have to be driving that car for even to have a chance in hell. I said they run high 13s and low 14s becuas thats what they DO run! a cobra should run a mid 12. YOu guys should run off a bridge of you ask me.

hey sp3nis let's race.......from a 140mph roll!...i'll bet i'd get the jump on ya.;)...j/k

some people never learn what does nascar have to do with 1/4 mile racing??f'n dooffer!
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LMAO There is plenty of stage 2 srt4's that run 14's flat... :D


Yeah, and I've seen plenty of Cobras (03+) run 13.8+. What's your point? we should all shoot them?


No just shoot you guys, i dont think i ever seen more stupidy comments from an srt4 driver. Just look at thier forums. 40 pages of no video about a s1 100shot srt beats a KB cobra. MY grandma would have to be driving that car for even to have a chance in hell. I said they run high 13s and low 14s becuas thats what they DO run! a cobra should run a mid 12. YOu guys should run off a bridge of you ask me.

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No just shoot you guys, i dont think i ever seen more stupidy comments from an srt4 driver. Just look at thier forums. 40 pages of no video about a s1 100shot srt beats a KB cobra. MY grandma would have to be driving that car for even to have a chance in hell. I said they run high 13s and low 14s becuas thats what they DO run! a cobra should run a mid 12. YOu guys should run off a bridge of you ask me.


What's "us guys"? I don't own a Neon, and I've never said they're unbeatable. I think you close minded rednecks should be shot instead.

What's your problem with the Neon? It dynos 230 hp and weights 2900 lbs. It is ultimately faster than a stock GT. Have a problem with that?

The SRT-4 is not my type of car, I'd take an 05 GT any day. But I'm not an asshole either, bashing another car (especially when it's an American car) just because it's not a Mustang.

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LMAO Your not a nascar driver either, whats your race run into you get out of gas??


What are you trying to say?

I'm not a Nascar driver, or even a Nascar fan. I like racing of all types, not just the ones that last seconds and only 1.4 mile.

I like road racing and autocrossing. What does a 1.30s 60' time do for you when you're blasting down the straightway at Road American or trying to survive the Corkscrew at Laguna Seca?

Nice to see a mustang win yet again...........:D

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LOL, get the heck out of here!!! no one made that NEON race the stang from a dig. you and JoeB18R are goobers!!! ----but you need to race him from a roll before you start all this sh** talking----LMAO, the stang waxed his ass, get over it. you neon guys are worse then us cobra guys, think its unbeatable. 2000Si summed it up best, may have gotten a bad launch, but thats his fault, he still lost.
(but not everyone is a drag racer<<<still LMAO!!) some people like their cucumbers pickled......


Did I ever say that was a bad race? Did I ever say the Stang didn't beat the Neon for good? So wtf is your problem?

You don't like racing from a roll? well, too bad, because roll-on acceleration (and handling) is all that matters in any other form of auto racing.

i'll tell ya what i'll race ya from a roll say 20mph...then i'll race ya from a dig..

experience will show from a dig....it's not the car it's the driver...no matter what you are racing!...........get your john deer out let's see who wins from a dig!??LOL!;)
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LOL, get the heck out of here!!! no one made that NEON race the stang from a dig. you and JoeB18R are goobers!!! ----but you need to race him from a roll before you start all this sh** talking----LMAO, the stang waxed his ass, get over it. you neon guys are worse then us cobra guys, think its unbeatable. 2000Si summed it up best, may have gotten a bad launch, but thats his fault, he still lost.
(but not everyone is a drag racer<<<still LMAO!!) some people like their cucumbers pickled......


Did I ever say that was a bad race? Did I ever say the Stang didn't beat the Neon for good? So wtf is your problem?

You don't like racing from a roll? well, too bad, because roll-on acceleration (and handling) is all that matters in any other form of auto racing.

wait wasnt this vid posted to show the SRT get beat :D, not to get into which is faster(the mustang of course lol)

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No just shoot you guys, i dont think i ever seen more stupidy comments from an srt4 driver. Just look at thier forums. 40 pages of no video about a s1 100shot srt beats a KB cobra. MY grandma would have to be driving that car for even to have a chance in hell. I said they run high 13s and low 14s becuas thats what they DO run! a cobra should run a mid 12. YOu guys should run off a bridge of you ask me.


What's "us guys"? I don't own a Neon, and I've never said they're unbeatable. I think you close minded rednecks should be shot instead.

What's your problem with the Neon? It dynos 230 hp and weights 2900 lbs. It is ultimately faster than a stock GT. Have a problem with that?

The SRT-4 is not my type of car, I'd take an 05 GT any day. But I'm not an asshole either, bashing another car (especially when it's an American car) just because it's not a Mustang.


stock gts are slow, stock wow cant believe a turbo car can beat one! omg LOL

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LMAO Your not a nascar driver either, whats your race run into you get out of gas??


What are you trying to say?

I'm not a Nascar driver, or even a Nascar fan. I like racing of all types, not just the ones that last seconds and only 1.4 mile.

I like road racing and autocrossing. What does a 1.30s 60' time do for you when you're blasting down the straightway at Road American or trying to survive the Corkscrew at Laguna Seca?


IM saying roll races are ghey thats what im saying lol

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i'll tell ya what i'll race ya from a roll say 20mph...then i'll race ya from a dig..

experience will show from a dig....it's not the car it's the driver...no matter what you are racing!...........get your john deer out let's see who wins from a dig!??LOL!;)


What makes you all think I own an SRT? Just because I'm not bashing the hell out of it for no reason doesn't mean I own one. Hell, it doesn't even mean I like one, or want one. i simply respect them.

As far as drag racing goes, racing from a dig is all that matters.

For any other type of racing, what usually matters is how fast you can approach a corner, how fast you can corner, and how fast you can accelerate out of a corner - what a roll on race demonstrates.

ORIGINAL: sp3nis
IM saying roll races are ghey thats what im saying lol


Did I say they're not? Did I ever say "race the SRT from a roll and see what happens?" No.

I simply said there's more to autosports than dragracing.

i still want to race my john deer against ya lol
:D

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IM saying roll races are ghey thats what im saying lol


Did I say they're not? Did I ever say "race the SRT from a roll and see what happens?" No.

I simply said there's more to autosports than dragracing.


well are we not on topic with drag racing? :D

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i'll tell ya what i'll race ya from a roll say 20mph...then i'll race ya from a dig..

experience will show from a dig....it's not the car it's the driver...no matter what you are racing!...........get your john deer out let's see who wins from a dig!??LOL!;)


What makes you all think I own an SRT? Just because I'm not bashing the hell out of it for no reason doesn't mean I own one. Hell, it doesn't even mean I like one, or want one. i simply respect them.

As far as drag racing goes, racing from a dig is all that matters.

For any other type of racing, what usually matters is how fast you can approach a corner, how fast you can corner, and how fast you can accelerate out of a corner - what a roll on race demonstrates.


I must have missed the part of the vid where they were on a AutoX course. Racing from a roll shows nothing about how a car is going to do on a handling course. You can have the slowest car on the track from a roll or a dig, but if it can handle on wheels your going to smoke everyone. A huge misconception (usually a ricer one) is that you need to acclerate fast from a roll to win at autox. All you really need to do is be able to enter the corners faster than the other guy. (thus coming out faster)

I agree that racing from a roll can take the driver out of the picture a LITTLE more and focus on the car, but isn't the launch part of the car's performance as well? Whats the point of a car that is fast as hell but cannot get off the line? Chances are if you cannot get off the line, you cannot handle either. And the SRT-4 is not exactly known for its handling skills (not that the 04- GT is either).

I do beileve that the SRT-4 is a pretty fast car stock for the price, and im not bashing them in any way, (simply not my style) but i have yet to see a vid of a all stock one going around and bashing on stock or near stock GTs. Every vid I have seen (and i used to check the vids section at the SRT forums all the time) either shows a heavly modded one beating up on stock GTs, or it being a pretty dammed close race, with one or the other pulling slowly.

What is with the SRT-4 VS Mustang stuff around here?

BTW, the 05 5spd coupe will hand one its ass stock for stock, no questions asked. We are talking about the 99-04s.

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I must have missed the part of the vid where they were on a AutoX course. Racing from a roll shows nothing about how a car is going to do on a handling course. You can have the slowest car on the track from a roll or a dig, but if it can handle on wheels your going to smoke everyone. A huge misconception (usually a ricer one) is that you need to accelerate fast from a roll to win at autox. All you really need to do is be able to enter the corners faster than the other guy. (thus coming out faster)

I agree that racing from a roll can take the driver out of the picture a LITTLE more and focus on the car, but isn't the launch part of the car's performance as well? Whats the point of a car that is fast as hell but cannot get off the line? Chances are if you cannot get off the line, you cannot handle either. And the SRT-4 is not exactly known for its handling skills (not that the 04- GT is either).

I do believe that the SRT-4 is a pretty fast car stock for the price, and im not bashing them in any way, (simply not my style) but i have yet to see a vid of a all stock one going around and bashing on stock or near stock GTs. Every vid I have seen (and i used to check the vids section at the SRT forums all the time) either shows a heavily modded one beating up on stock GTs, or it being a pretty dammed close race, with one or the other pulling slowly.

What is with the SRT-4 VS Mustang stuff around here?

BTW, the 05 5spd coupe will hand one its ass stock for stock, no questions asked. We are talking about the 99-04s.


lol every thing you said is pretty damn true, and that's what I was wondering when did the Mustang vs. Neon rivalry get to be one of the biggest it like its bigger the the Mustang vs. Camero:D

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I must have missed the part of the vid where they were on a AutoX course. Racing from a roll shows nothing about how a car is going to do on a handling course. You can have the slowest car on the track from a roll or a dig, but if it can handle on wheels your going to smoke everyone. A huge misconception (usually a ricer one) is that you need to accelerate fast from a roll to win at autox. All you really need to do is be able to enter the corners faster than the other guy. (thus coming out faster)

I agree that racing from a roll can take the driver out of the picture a LITTLE more and focus on the car, but isn't the launch part of the car's performance as well? Whats the point of a car that is fast as hell but cannot get off the line? Chances are if you cannot get off the line, you cannot handle either. And the SRT-4 is not exactly known for its handling skills (not that the 04- GT is either).

I do believe that the SRT-4 is a pretty fast car stock for the price, and im not bashing them in any way, (simply not my style) but i have yet to see a vid of a all stock one going around and bashing on stock or near stock GTs. Every vid I have seen (and i used to check the vids section at the SRT forums all the time) either shows a heavily modded one beating up on stock GTs, or it being a pretty dammed close race, with one or the other pulling slowly.

What is with the SRT-4 VS Mustang stuff around here?

BTW, the 05 5spd coupe will hand one its ass stock for stock, no questions asked. We are talking about the 99-04s.


lol every thing you said is pretty damn true, and that's what I was wondering when did the Mustang vs. Neon rivalry get to be one of the biggest it like its bigger the the Mustang vs. Camero:D



Hehe i like what he said. to the 2nd quote about the mustang vs neon and the stang vs maro. I dont get the stang maro fight. Both domestics both sick ass cars. We should join forces!

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i still want to race my john deer against ya lol
:D


Fine, not from a dig though right? but only on an oval :D

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I must have missed the part of the vid where they were on a AutoX course. Racing from a roll shows nothing about how a car is going to do on a handling course.

Chances are if you cannot get off the line, you cannot handle either.


1: 60' time doesn't help much either. I only used autoX as an example.

2: Just about any open wheeled pro race car (CART, IRL, F1) will trap around 180 mph in the 1/4 mile, yet, the fastest of them all, F1, can only manage a low 9's run. On the other hand, drag cars that are awsome at launching can't handle at all.

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well are we not on topic with drag racing? :D


Well, technically we're on topic with illegal street racing ;)

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well are we not on topic with drag racing? :D


Well, technically we're on topic with illegal street racing ;)


from a stop since they ran from one...

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I must have missed the part of the vid where they were on a AutoX course. Racing from a roll shows nothing about how a car is going to do on a handling course.

Chances are if you cannot get off the line, you cannot handle either.


1: 60' time doesn't help much either. I only used autoX as an example.

2: Just about any open wheeled pro race car (CART, IRL, F1) will trap around 180 mph in the 1/4 mile, yet, the fastest of them all, F1, can only manage a low 9's run. On the other hand, drag cars that are awsome at launching can't handle at all.

I want to see proof of this.

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I must have missed the part of the vid where they were on a AutoX course. Racing from a roll shows nothing about how a car is going to do on a handling course.

Chances are if you cannot get off the line, you cannot handle either.


1: 60' time doesn't help much either. I only used autoX as an example.

2: Just about any open wheeled pro race car (CART, IRL, F1) will trap around 180 mph in the 1/4 mile, yet, the fastest of them all, F1, can only manage a low 9's run. On the other hand, drag cars that are awsome at launching can't handle at all.

I want to see proof of this.


Me too. BTW, if it is true, the only reason for it is that the gearing in the cars is set up so much for all top end pull. Hell, at the big circle tracks they sometimes give the nascars a push to get em started.

It has nothing to do with not having the right setup to launch (other than the gears, a few minute swap job for these guys).

And we are not talking about million dollar single purpose cars. We are talking about cars that people modify to drive/race on the street/strip/track.

BTW, another point I forgot to mention was the entire FWD= bad ass handling car. When did this get started? Ever tried to use throttle to steer yourself around a curve in a FWD car? You had better get out that John Deere, because your gonna be plowing.

I would race a equal wieght/horsepower FWD car vs a RWD car on a track any day of the week, if they both had similar coin spent on the suspension. Its not like the SRT-4's main area is circle track racing.

This isn't even mentioning the V8 vs 4cyl thing. If you really think that racing from a roll is a good indicator of how your gonna do on a circle track, consider that you don't get to choose the RPMs that you come out of the curve on. Its not like roll racing where you can set it up to be in your upper band. You may come out of a curve just into a gear, or at the very top of one. I would much rather have a V8 with a fatter curve for this than a 4cyl with the same WHP making all of it between 6 and 7500 RPM.

Proof of what? the F1 and Indy cars doing 9 second 1/4 miles?

Other than asking around the F1 forums, there're two articles I know of that document these data. The July 1999 issue of R&T and the March 2001 issue. They tested a bunch of cars, from a Diablo (slowest) to a top fuel (fastest). In the middle they had everything from a Nascar to a ZX-12R. All the pro racecars were in the 9's, with the F1 (800hp, 1320lbs) trapping the highest.

In the March 2001 issue, they tested a Jaguar racing F1. The car went from 0-60 in 2.8 seconds, but hit 160 mph in 6.6s (3.8s later). This shows that their initial launch sucks, but top end acceleration is nothing but breathtaking. The 1/4 mile was 9.3s @ 184 mph i think, but you have to check it out yourself. The reason? Without the added downforce at higher speeds, the rear wheels spin hopelessly.

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Its not like the SRT-4's main area is circle track racing.

This isn't even mentioning the V8 vs 4cyl thing. If you really think that racing from a roll is a good indicator of how your gonna do on a circle track, consider that you don't get to choose the RPMs that you come out of the curve on. Its not like roll racing where you can set it up to be in your upper band. You may come out of a curve just into a gear, or at the very top of one. I would much rather have a V8 with a fatter curve for this than a 4cyl with the same WHP making all of it between 6 and 7500 RPM.


1: I never said the SRT-4 is an awsome handling car did I? But again, it's pretty respectable. It outbraked the $200,000 Lambo Gallardo, it out slaloomed the Ferrari F575 Marannelo. Sure it's not world class, but give credit where it's due.

2: Did I say roll-on acceleration means better lap times? Or did I say that it's a lot more important than off the line acceleration? Don't change my words. And F1 would loose to the 8.99s LPH Vette off the line, but would eat it alive ina roll-on. Trust me, in road racing, the last thing they care about is 60' times.

Since you brought up the SRT-4 again, I'll say something about its "weak little wimpy 4 cyl". In contrast to what people often believe, the SRT-4 is got one of the fattest torque curves out there. The engine itself would be perfectly suited for track racing. It's not a peaky motor at all. But then again, Nascar, F1, IRL, you name it, all have extremely peaky engines. Nacar makes almost no power till 5000 rpms. For an F1, you better stay in the 5 digit figure.

Lastly, you don't throttle steer in FWD cars. Most FWD cars understeer, therefore you left foot brake to shift the brake bias rearwards and neutral out the balance.

BTW guys, found the link for the F1 (took me the whole morning, damn you guys:D):

March 2001 R&T Jaguar R1 F1 (http://www.roadandtrack.com/article.asp?section_id=3&article_id=136&page_number=2)

Zero to 60 mph in 2.7 seconds is amazing enough, but even more impressive is how this continues right on past the quarter mile, reported by Ford/Jaguar's Neil Ressler at 181.0 mph in 9.4 sec. (see "Kings of the Quarter Mile," June 2000).

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IM saying roll races are ghey thats what im saying lol


Did I say they're not? Did I ever say "race the SRT from a roll and see what happens?" No.

I simply said there's more to autosports than dragracing.


well are we not on topic with drag racing? :D

its just too bad you guys that are on topic about drag racing didn't own MUSTANGS...

sheesh this place has gone to the dawgs.. LS! guys in here and AUDI guys inhere..wtf??

this is a MUSTANG FORUM BOARD get a clue...

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IM saying roll races are ghey thats what im saying lol


Did I say they're not? Did I ever say "race the SRT from a roll and see what happens?" No.

I simply said there's more to autosports than dragracing.


well are we not on topic with drag racing? :D

its just too bad you guys that are on topic about drag racing didn't own MUSTANGS...

sheesh this place has gone to the dawgs.. LS! guys in here and AUDI guys inhere..wtf??

this is a MUSTANG FORUM BOARD get a clue...


who gives a shiz? sp3nis has or at least had, a Mach I... if he sold it does that make him not entitled to post here anymore?

That line is the most played out, moronic one ever.

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IM saying roll races are ghey thats what im saying lol


Did I say they're not? Did I ever say "race the SRT from a roll and see what happens?" No.

I simply said there's more to autosports than dragracing.


well are we not on topic with drag racing? :D

its just too bad you guys that are on topic about drag racing didn't own MUSTANGS...

sheesh this place has gone to the dawgs.. LS! guys in here and AUDI guys inhere..wtf??

this is a MUSTANG FORUM BOARD get a clue...


who gives a shiz? sp3nis has or at least had, a Mach I... if he sold it does that make him not entitled to post here anymore?

That line is the most played out, moronic one ever.


I agree, and for all those who dont know. My audi is my daily driver and im representing LOL. My mach1 is in my driveway and will always be. For all my life and my sons i hope. Unless i do trade it in for that 07Shelby...:)

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its just too bad you guys that are on topic about drag racing didn't own MUSTANGS...

sheesh this place has gone to the dawgs.. LS! guys in here and AUDI guys inhere..wtf??

this is a MUSTANG FORUM BOARD get a clue...


And I guess you know more about fast cars than me because I own an LS1?

Teh 17 second car > than teh 11 second car!!!!1

Maybe your boyfriend with the "ram air" hood is fast? It's a ram air, it must be fast.

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BTW, the 05 5spd coupe will hand one its ass stock for stock, no questions asked. We are talking about the 99-04s.


That, is exactly what I hope to find out when my friend brings his 04 SRT-4 up to visit next month. I went from an 04 SRT-4 to my 05 GT last month (we got our SRT-4's about a month apart). I like the V8 sound better and the body styling, but it just doesn't "feel" as fast to me, and cornering seemed much better before too. That being said, I liked my SRT-4, but I love my stang.

I raced a black Camaro on Friday and spun the tires way to much in 1st and 2nd, I bet it looked and sounded cool though. I did beat him anyway, but I would have beat him by more if I hadn't spun so much. He kept trying, from 2nd gear, off the line, 3rd gear, then we bounced back and forth for the next 15 miles, until I had to exit.

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its just too bad you guys that are on topic about drag racing didn't own MUSTANGS...

sheesh this place has gone to the dawgs.. LS! guys in here and AUDI guys inhere..wtf??

this is a MUSTANG FORUM BOARD get a clue...


And I guess you know more about fast cars than me because I own an LS1?

Teh 17 second car > than teh 11 second car!!!!1

Maybe your boyfriend with the "ram air" hood is fast? It's a ram air, it must be fast.




mustangs have fake hood scopes LOL.... and useless spoilers.... too [&:]

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IM saying roll races are ghey thats what im saying lol


Did I say they're not? Did I ever say "race the SRT from a roll and see what happens?" No.

I simply said there's more to autosports than dragracing.


well are we not on topic with drag racing? :D

its just too bad you guys that are on topic about drag racing didn't own MUSTANGS...

sheesh this place has gone to the dawgs.. LS! guys in here and AUDI guys inhere..wtf??

this is a MUSTANG FORUM BOARD get a clue...

You really don't know how long I have been waiting for some dumbass to say somthing like this. Maybe the FACT that I have built, owned and continue build fast street cars qualifys me to actually KNOW what I am talking about ( yes I have built several 10 sec. street cars). If that is not enough for you how about this car http://www.mustangforums.com/upfiles/7038/asppg_Us527386457.jpg it went 10.0's at 138 mph, and by golly it's a Mustang (although sadly it never did well in its class, NMRA Real Street). So instead of judging a persons knowlage by what car he/she has in their sig, maybe you should shut up and read, but be carefull you might just learn somthing.

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BTW guys, found the link for the F1 (took me the whole morning, damn you guys:D):

March 2001 R&T Jaguar R1 F1 (http://www.roadandtrack.com/article.asp?section_id=3&article_id=136&page_number=2)

Zero to 60 mph in 2.7 seconds is amazing enough, but even more impressive is how this continues right on past the quarter mile, reported by Ford/Jaguar's Neil Ressler at 181.0 mph in 9.4 sec. (see "Kings of the Quarter Mile," June 2000).


I would never have thought an F1 car would do so well, thanks for the link.

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its just too bad you guys that are on topic about drag racing didn't own MUSTANGS...

sheesh this place has gone to the dawgs.. LS! guys in here and AUDI guys inhere..wtf??

this is a MUSTANG FORUM BOARD get a clue...


And I guess you know more about fast cars than me because I own an LS1?
Teh 17 second car > than teh 11 second car!!!!1

Maybe your boyfriend with the "ram air" hood is fast? It's a ram air, it must be fast.



she never said that, but isnt that common sense??? :D j/k

OICW, i dont mind racing from a roll, come on man, wouldnt you agree that racing from a dig not only shows a car's ability, but also the drivers ability better then from a roll?? course any stang would rather race its arch rival from a dig instead of a roll i guess, maybe im just making another stang excuse huh

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its just too bad you guys that are on topic about drag racing didn't own MUSTANGS...

sheesh this place has gone to the dawgs.. LS! guys in here and AUDI guys inhere..wtf??

this is a MUSTANG FORUM BOARD get a clue...


And I guess you know more about fast cars than me because I own an LS1?

Teh 17 second car > than teh 11 second car!!!!1

Maybe your boyfriend with the "ram air" hood is fast? It's a ram air, it must be fast.

no his ram air hood doesnt make it go any faster..lmao but you have to admit it looks kool.
dont be a hater pal. im just pointing out that you guys come here with your imprt sigs and GM sigs and its a mustang forum board thats all im saying.
show some LOVE for your stang sheesh....:eek:

I'd call that hood rice...But thats just me.

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OICW, i dont mind racing from a roll, come on man, wouldnt you agree that racing from a dig not only shows a car's ability, but also the drivers ability better then from a roll?? course any stang would rather race its arch rival from a dig instead of a roll i guess, maybe im just making another stang excuse huh


As far as drag racing goes, I would ONLY race from a dig. A roll-on drag race is not a race at all (it tests a car's ability to re-accelerate after a corner at track speeds).

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I'd call that hood rice...

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its just too bad you guys that are on topic about drag racing didn't own MUSTANGS...

sheesh this place has gone to the dawgs.. LS! guys in here and AUDI guys inhere..wtf??

this is a MUSTANG FORUM BOARD get a clue...


And I guess you know more about fast cars than me because I own an LS1?

Teh 17 second car > than teh 11 second car!!!!1

Maybe your boyfriend with the "ram air" hood is fast? It's a ram air, it must be fast.

no his ram air hood doesnt make it go any faster..lmao but you have to admit it looks kool.
dont be a hater pal. im just pointing out that you guys come here with your imprt sigs and GM sigs and its a mustang forum board thats all im saying.
show some LOVE for your stang sheesh....:eek:

Making a car fast is universal, yes there are some minor differences from one type to another, but the principals are the same. Like I said forget about wheather it's a Stang or Camaro or whatever and just read some of our posts, you might learn how to make a car faster.

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I'd call that hood rice...But thats just me.




hah, well said. and when did this post get so far off the topic of a GT beating the SRT-4? good vid

yall emport drivrz adn maro drivrz r jes jelus mah stang kix yer assz all dey looong stook!!11!!!1

damn.. that was hard as hell to type out.

all i can say is WOW everytime they show a mustang beating a 4 banger they bit** about how it wasnt fair and o if he did this diffrently then he would have won WOW people get a grip



HEY NICE VID MAN

So, whats the bottom line?? With identical drivers, would a STOCK 04 GT with a manual transmission beat a Stock 04 SRT4 with a manual??? Anything outside of that as far as mods go would be all speculation and driver ability. The only thing I can give to the SRT guys is their cars are cheap from the get go.....sticker at 22K for a loaded one I believe, and the big mods for that car are cheap too!!! Other than that, I have beat stock ones with my stock GT before the exhaust and gears from a dig and from a roll, and I have been beaten after the gears and exhaust by a modded up one from dig and roll. So, lets leave it at that.

stock for stock
Mustang>srt4

Nice kill. :)

Haha ya that was pretty tight .....just because one car is faster than the other doesnt mean anything...there is driving involved to

Ok heres the scoop coming from someone who owns both an 04 Srt-4 and an 05 Gt 5 speed. The SRT stock is faster than the Mustang stock with a competent driver. My stone stock SRT went 13:70@103 at Byron Dragstrip with less than a 1000 miles on it. My Mustang with around 200 miles on it went 14:20@99 at the same track. I know the Mustang has more in it and it should go high 13's itself, but the arguement is about an 04 GT stock which I believe is a TAD bit slower than a stock 05? The thing about the SRT is if you dont leave the line just right, you wont make a good run. Im talking about the difference between running a 13:70 to running a 14:20 in the SRT could be a matter of leaving the line 100 rpm different, slightly bogging, or spinning! I have not watched the video yet, but if you guys say he bogged the SRT at the line than no matter what he did after that, the race was over. Those two cars are way too close in performance for the SRT to play catch up. If he had left the line even with the Mustang, he should have slightly pulled on it, no more than say 3 cars AT MOST. Like someone else said, if they were to race from a roll it probably would have been a different story, but who knows. I personally dont believe in running from a roll, but thats just me. Just wanted to throw my .02 in as I hate seeing people rip cars, any car for that matter. I refuse to rip anything (Honda's, Mustangs, Camaro's, ETC) because somewhere out there is something faster.

Ok, just watched the vid - SRT guy couldnt drive it ;)

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Ok heres the scoop coming from someone who owns both an 04 Srt-4 and an 05 Gt 5 speed. The SRT stock is faster than the Mustang stock with a competent driver.
Ok, just watched the vid - SRT guy couldnt drive it ;)


Hey I owned and 04 SRT4 and an 05 Gt, but never at the same time. I traded the SRT in for the stang in march. My impression is that the SRT was waaaay easier to shift than the stang is. You have to be more careful with the clutch and even the stick movement is smoother in the SRT. I don't know which would be faster, too close to me, it all comes down to the driver. But because the SRT is easier to get good shifts in (for me at least) it takes a much better driver in in the stang in order to beat the SRT.

I know a guy with an 04 SRT4 that I plan on racing, I hope to beat him, but my shifting ability has never gotten as good as it was with the SRT.

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Ok heres the scoop coming from someone who owns both an 04 Srt-4 and an 05 Gt 5 speed. The SRT stock is faster than the Mustang stock with a competent driver.
Ok, just watched the vid - SRT guy couldnt drive it ;)


Hey I owned and 04 SRT4 and an 05 Gt, but never at the same time. I traded the SRT in for the stang in march. My impression is that the SRT was waaaay easier to shift than the stang is. You have to be more careful with the clutch and even the stick movement is smoother in the SRT. I don't know which would be faster, too close to me, it all comes down to the driver. But because the SRT is easier to get good shifts in (for me at least) it takes a much better driver in in the stang in order to beat the SRT.

I know a guy with an 04 SRT4 that I plan on racing, I hope to beat him, but my shifting ability has never gotten as good as it was with the SRT.
I agree on the shifting - not a big difference, but the shifter in the SRT is taller and the action is a little smoother. My girlfriend races the Stang and has run a 14:30 to my 14:21 in the car so she can drive stick. We raced a few times, me in the SRT and her in the Stang, and by second gear i am about 3 car lengths ahead of her. We have also run on the highway, side by side, and the SRT really pulls on Stang. She got frustrated and now were looking into a supercharger and the Magnaflow exhaust for the Stang. Here is a pic from a local cruise night at a Dodge dealership with the Stang next to my SRT and my dads Biscayne ...

http://home.comcast.net/~robworld/wsb/media/400051/site1289.jpg

local://upfiles/18026/5BBCAE99FD874E06B21CFBC01C31BA76.jpg

the 05 GT should have the srt4. i guess it depends on the driver. there's been people who have gotten a 13.6 out of a stock 05 GT. SRT-4s are about the same as a 99-04 GT, right? low 14s, high 13s.

Who pulled this from the dead?

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Who pulled this from the dead?
Probably me, sorry. Just found this site and was roaming ;)

SO TO SEE WHO HAS A FASTER CAR LETS MAKE LEFT HAND TRUNS FOR 3-4 HOURS
ACTUALLY ID RATHER FIND OUT IN 12-14 SECONDS...STFU, YOUR A CLOWN

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SO TO SEE WHO HAS A FASTER CAR LETS MAKE LEFT HAND TRUNS FOR 3-4 HOURS
ACTUALLY ID RATHER FIND OUT IN 12-14 SECONDS...STFU, YOUR A CLOWN
Who was this remark to?

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SO TO SEE WHO HAS A FASTER CAR LETS MAKE LEFT HAND TRUNS FOR 3-4 HOURS
ACTUALLY ID RATHER FIND OUT IN 12-14 SECONDS...STFU, YOUR A CLOWN
Who was this remark to?


[&:] I was wondering the same lol

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SO TO SEE WHO HAS A FASTER CAR LETS MAKE LEFT HAND TRUNS FOR 3-4 HOURS
ACTUALLY ID RATHER FIND OUT IN 12-14 SECONDS...STFU, YOUR A CLOWN
Who was this remark to?


[&:] I was wondering the same lol
I hope not me because I didnt really say anything out of line, just giving some insight. Hmm, have to wait and see I guess ...