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LMAO There is plenty of stage 2 srt4's that run 14's flat...
Yeah, and I've seen plenty of Cobras (03+) run 13.8+. What's your point? we should all shoot them?
No just shoot you guys, i dont think i ever seen more stupidy comments from an srt4 driver. Just look at thier forums. 40 pages of no video about a s1 100shot srt beats a KB cobra. MY grandma would have to be driving that car for even to have a chance in hell. I said they run high 13s and low 14s becuas thats what they DO run! a cobra should run a mid 12. YOu guys should run off a bridge of you ask me.
hey sp3nis let's race.......from a 140mph roll!...i'll bet i'd get the jump on ya....j/k
some people never learn what does nascar have to do with 1/4 mile racing??f'n dooffer!
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LMAO There is plenty of stage 2 srt4's that run 14's flat...
Yeah, and I've seen plenty of Cobras (03+) run 13.8+. What's your point? we should all shoot them?
No just shoot you guys, i dont think i ever seen more stupidy comments from an srt4 driver. Just look at thier forums. 40 pages of no video about a s1 100shot srt beats a KB cobra. MY grandma would have to be driving that car for even to have a chance in hell. I said they run high 13s and low 14s becuas thats what they DO run! a cobra should run a mid 12. YOu guys should run off a bridge of you ask me.
ORIGINAL: sp3nis No just shoot you guys, i dont think i ever seen more stupidy comments from an srt4 driver. Just look at thier forums. 40 pages of no video about a s1 100shot srt beats a KB cobra. MY grandma would have to be driving that car for even to have a chance in hell. I said they run high 13s and low 14s becuas thats what they DO run! a cobra should run a mid 12. YOu guys should run off a bridge of you ask me.
What's "us guys"? I don't own a Neon, and I've never said they're unbeatable. I think you close minded rednecks should be shot instead.
What's your problem with the Neon? It dynos 230 hp and weights 2900 lbs. It is ultimately faster than a stock GT. Have a problem with that?
The SRT-4 is not my type of car, I'd take an 05 GT any day. But I'm not an asshole either, bashing another car (especially when it's an American car) just because it's not a Mustang.
ORIGINAL: sp3nis LMAO Your not a nascar driver either, whats your race run into you get out of gas??
What are you trying to say?
I'm not a Nascar driver, or even a Nascar fan. I like racing of all types, not just the ones that last seconds and only 1.4 mile.
I like road racing and autocrossing. What does a 1.30s 60' time do for you when you're blasting down the straightway at Road American or trying to survive the Corkscrew at Laguna Seca?
ORIGINAL: 01GTvertible LOL, get the heck out of here!!! no one made that NEON race the stang from a dig. you and JoeB18R are goobers!!! ----but you need to race him from a roll before you start all this sh** talking----LMAO, the stang waxed his ass, get over it. you neon guys are worse then us cobra guys, think its unbeatable. 2000Si summed it up best, may have gotten a bad launch, but thats his fault, he still lost. (but not everyone is a drag racer<<<still LMAO!!) some people like their cucumbers pickled......
Did I ever say that was a bad race? Did I ever say the Stang didn't beat the Neon for good? So wtf is your problem?
You don't like racing from a roll? well, too bad, because roll-on acceleration (and handling) is all that matters in any other form of auto racing.
i'll tell ya what i'll race ya from a roll say 20mph...then i'll race ya from a dig..
experience will show from a dig....it's not the car it's the driver...no matter what you are racing!...........get your john deer out let's see who wins from a dig!??LOL!
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ORIGINAL: 01GTvertible LOL, get the heck out of here!!! no one made that NEON race the stang from a dig. you and JoeB18R are goobers!!! ----but you need to race him from a roll before you start all this sh** talking----LMAO, the stang waxed his ass, get over it. you neon guys are worse then us cobra guys, think its unbeatable. 2000Si summed it up best, may have gotten a bad launch, but thats his fault, he still lost. (but not everyone is a drag racer<<<still LMAO!!) some people like their cucumbers pickled......
Did I ever say that was a bad race? Did I ever say the Stang didn't beat the Neon for good? So wtf is your problem?
You don't like racing from a roll? well, too bad, because roll-on acceleration (and handling) is all that matters in any other form of auto racing.
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ORIGINAL: sp3nis No just shoot you guys, i dont think i ever seen more stupidy comments from an srt4 driver. Just look at thier forums. 40 pages of no video about a s1 100shot srt beats a KB cobra. MY grandma would have to be driving that car for even to have a chance in hell. I said they run high 13s and low 14s becuas thats what they DO run! a cobra should run a mid 12. YOu guys should run off a bridge of you ask me.
What's "us guys"? I don't own a Neon, and I've never said they're unbeatable. I think you close minded rednecks should be shot instead.
What's your problem with the Neon? It dynos 230 hp and weights 2900 lbs. It is ultimately faster than a stock GT. Have a problem with that?
The SRT-4 is not my type of car, I'd take an 05 GT any day. But I'm not an asshole either, bashing another car (especially when it's an American car) just because it's not a Mustang.
stock gts are slow, stock wow cant believe a turbo car can beat one! omg LOL
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ORIGINAL: sp3nis LMAO Your not a nascar driver either, whats your race run into you get out of gas??
What are you trying to say?
I'm not a Nascar driver, or even a Nascar fan. I like racing of all types, not just the ones that last seconds and only 1.4 mile.
I like road racing and autocrossing. What does a 1.30s 60' time do for you when you're blasting down the straightway at Road American or trying to survive the Corkscrew at Laguna Seca?
IM saying roll races are ghey thats what im saying lol
i'll tell ya what i'll race ya from a roll say 20mph...then i'll race ya from a dig..
experience will show from a dig....it's not the car it's the driver...no matter what you are racing!...........get your john deer out let's see who wins from a dig!??LOL!
What makes you all think I own an SRT? Just because I'm not bashing the hell out of it for no reason doesn't mean I own one. Hell, it doesn't even mean I like one, or want one. i simply respect them.
As far as drag racing goes, racing from a dig is all that matters.
For any other type of racing, what usually matters is how fast you can approach a corner, how fast you can corner, and how fast you can accelerate out of a corner - what a roll on race demonstrates.
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i'll tell ya what i'll race ya from a roll say 20mph...then i'll race ya from a dig..
experience will show from a dig....it's not the car it's the driver...no matter what you are racing!...........get your john deer out let's see who wins from a dig!??LOL!
What makes you all think I own an SRT? Just because I'm not bashing the hell out of it for no reason doesn't mean I own one. Hell, it doesn't even mean I like one, or want one. i simply respect them.
As far as drag racing goes, racing from a dig is all that matters.
For any other type of racing, what usually matters is how fast you can approach a corner, how fast you can corner, and how fast you can accelerate out of a corner - what a roll on race demonstrates.
I must have missed the part of the vid where they were on a AutoX course. Racing from a roll shows nothing about how a car is going to do on a handling course. You can have the slowest car on the track from a roll or a dig, but if it can handle on wheels your going to smoke everyone. A huge misconception (usually a ricer one) is that you need to acclerate fast from a roll to win at autox. All you really need to do is be able to enter the corners faster than the other guy. (thus coming out faster)
I agree that racing from a roll can take the driver out of the picture a LITTLE more and focus on the car, but isn't the launch part of the car's performance as well? Whats the point of a car that is fast as hell but cannot get off the line? Chances are if you cannot get off the line, you cannot handle either. And the SRT-4 is not exactly known for its handling skills (not that the 04- GT is either).
I do beileve that the SRT-4 is a pretty fast car stock for the price, and im not bashing them in any way, (simply not my style) but i have yet to see a vid of a all stock one going around and bashing on stock or near stock GTs. Every vid I have seen (and i used to check the vids section at the SRT forums all the time) either shows a heavly modded one beating up on stock GTs, or it being a pretty dammed close race, with one or the other pulling slowly.
What is with the SRT-4 VS Mustang stuff around here?
BTW, the 05 5spd coupe will hand one its ass stock for stock, no questions asked. We are talking about the 99-04s.
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I must have missed the part of the vid where they were on a AutoX course. Racing from a roll shows nothing about how a car is going to do on a handling course. You can have the slowest car on the track from a roll or a dig, but if it can handle on wheels your going to smoke everyone. A huge misconception (usually a ricer one) is that you need to accelerate fast from a roll to win at autox. All you really need to do is be able to enter the corners faster than the other guy. (thus coming out faster)
I agree that racing from a roll can take the driver out of the picture a LITTLE more and focus on the car, but isn't the launch part of the car's performance as well? Whats the point of a car that is fast as hell but cannot get off the line? Chances are if you cannot get off the line, you cannot handle either. And the SRT-4 is not exactly known for its handling skills (not that the 04- GT is either).
I do believe that the SRT-4 is a pretty fast car stock for the price, and im not bashing them in any way, (simply not my style) but i have yet to see a vid of a all stock one going around and bashing on stock or near stock GTs. Every vid I have seen (and i used to check the vids section at the SRT forums all the time) either shows a heavily modded one beating up on stock GTs, or it being a pretty dammed close race, with one or the other pulling slowly.
What is with the SRT-4 VS Mustang stuff around here?
BTW, the 05 5spd coupe will hand one its ass stock for stock, no questions asked. We are talking about the 99-04s.
lol every thing you said is pretty damn true, and that's what I was wondering when did the Mustang vs. Neon rivalry get to be one of the biggest it like its bigger the the Mustang vs. Camero
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Joe99es Cobra's are played out dude.. I went to teh dragway last friday and there was like 9 cobra's there, there a dime a dozen
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I must have missed the part of the vid where they were on a AutoX course. Racing from a roll shows nothing about how a car is going to do on a handling course. You can have the slowest car on the track from a roll or a dig, but if it can handle on wheels your going to smoke everyone. A huge misconception (usually a ricer one) is that you need to accelerate fast from a roll to win at autox. All you really need to do is be able to enter the corners faster than the other guy. (thus coming out faster)
I agree that racing from a roll can take the driver out of the picture a LITTLE more and focus on the car, but isn't the launch part of the car's performance as well? Whats the point of a car that is fast as hell but cannot get off the line? Chances are if you cannot get off the line, you cannot handle either. And the SRT-4 is not exactly known for its handling skills (not that the 04- GT is either).
I do believe that the SRT-4 is a pretty fast car stock for the price, and im not bashing them in any way, (simply not my style) but i have yet to see a vid of a all stock one going around and bashing on stock or near stock GTs. Every vid I have seen (and i used to check the vids section at the SRT forums all the time) either shows a heavily modded one beating up on stock GTs, or it being a pretty dammed close race, with one or the other pulling slowly.
What is with the SRT-4 VS Mustang stuff around here?
BTW, the 05 5spd coupe will hand one its ass stock for stock, no questions asked. We are talking about the 99-04s.
lol every thing you said is pretty damn true, and that's what I was wondering when did the Mustang vs. Neon rivalry get to be one of the biggest it like its bigger the the Mustang vs. Camero
Hehe i like what he said. to the 2nd quote about the mustang vs neon and the stang vs maro. I dont get the stang maro fight. Both domestics both sick ass cars. We should join forces!
ORIGINAL: 2000GT4.6 I must have missed the part of the vid where they were on a AutoX course. Racing from a roll shows nothing about how a car is going to do on a handling course.
Chances are if you cannot get off the line, you cannot handle either.
1: 60' time doesn't help much either. I only used autoX as an example.
2: Just about any open wheeled pro race car (CART, IRL, F1) will trap around 180 mph in the 1/4 mile, yet, the fastest of them all, F1, can only manage a low 9's run. On the other hand, drag cars that are awsome at launching can't handle at all.