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The Electric mustang - 3/13/2008 12:13:56 PM   
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I recently read of an electric mustang... its from Ronaele. they say it will produce 300 HP and 1000 Ft ibs of Torque. then they claim they are working on a 600 hp version that make 2000 torques... hmmm. what would you do with all that? and i would definatly miss the V8 growl. what are your takes on this. anybody know anything about this?

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RE: The Electric mustang - 3/13/2008 12:19:06 PM   
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While I 150% of electric cars and saving the planet and environment, electric muscle cars, no matter if they made 1,000,000 HP, would be just plain WEIRD if they made no noise.

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    RE: The Electric mustang - 3/13/2008 12:26:16 PM   
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    If you missed the growl you could always get a good stereo and put it on a cd. 

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    I recently read of an electric mustang... its from Ronaele. they say it will produce 300 HP and 1000 Ft ibs of Torque. then they claim they are working on a 600 hp version that make 2000 torques... hmmm. what would you do with all that? and i would definatly miss the V8 growl. what are your takes on this. anybody know anything about this?

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    RE: The Electric mustang - 3/13/2008 12:26:37 PM   
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    Pretty freaky.http://www.motortrend.com/features/auto_news/2007/112_news050712_electric_muscle/photo_04.html

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    RE: The Electric mustang - 3/13/2008 1:00:31 PM   
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    wow thats krazy! But u cant mod your motor, or does adding RAM = adding HP?

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    RE: The Electric mustang - 3/13/2008 1:04:27 PM   
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    yeah, i read that in the new 5.0...it looks pretty bad ass.  if i had that kind of power and styling, i MIGHT be able to sacrifice the growl...

    either way, my biggest question is how much will this thing cost???  They give no clue as to price or performance but state that updates will come as soon as they get behind the wheel

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    RE: The Electric mustang - 3/13/2008 1:10:29 PM   
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    Maximum torque on an electric motor is at 0 RPM so the thing would take off like a rocket.  Talk about burning up tires...

    Unfortunately it will probably weigh 3 tons and have a range of 50 miles.

    Battery technology needs to make great strides before electric cars can be taken seriously.

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    RE: The Electric mustang - 3/13/2008 1:12:31 PM   
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    My biggest complaint about electric cars is this: It's not helping emmisions. Something has to make the electricity to recharge that car. Whatever that may be, it's creating just as much if not more pollution than what the car will. OK it might cost less per mile to drive it right now, but will it in a couple years when they jack up the electric rates cause they have to build new power plants and run more lines and add bigger transformers? There are a lot of areas in this country where the electricity crisis is bigger than the fuel crisis. 

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    RE: The Electric mustang - 3/13/2008 1:14:09 PM   
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    quote:

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    Maximum torque on an electric motor is at 0 RPM so the thing would take off like a rocket.  Talk about burning up tires...

    Unfortunately it will probably weigh 3 tons and have a range of 50 miles.

    Battery technology needs to make great strides before electric cars can be taken seriously.

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    RE: The Electric mustang - 3/13/2008 1:26:18 PM   
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    The chevy volt looks promising as well.

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    RE: The Electric mustang - 3/13/2008 1:30:27 PM   
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    Maximum torque on an electric motor is at 0 RPM so the thing would take off like a rocket.  Talk about burning up tires...

    Unfortunately it will probably weigh 3 tons and have a range of 50 miles.

    Battery technology needs to make great strides before electric cars can be taken seriously.

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    No, it's not.

    I am fully aware of the Tesla Motors car.  It has 248 hp, just over 200 ft-lbs of torque and weighs 2800 lbs, a hell of a lot for a Lotus Elise size roadster.  Real world testing has shown it has a usable range of about 150 miles, less if you really get on it.  Roneale is talking 300 hp and 1000 ft-lbs - that will require considerably more current to produce. 

    I agree 100% with your statement on pollution.  And you also need to account for the pollution produced in making and disposing of the batteries.  You never hear about these concerns.  It's as if the electricity magically appears at the outlet.

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    RE: The Electric mustang - 3/13/2008 1:37:01 PM   
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    You guys make it seem like it costs more to produce/dispose of batteries than it does to pump petro, refine it, ship it to the gas station etc.  I guarentee it isn't even on the same level.

    Nothing will magically get rid of pollution, but electric cars vs gas/diesel?  it's not even comparable.

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    RE: The Electric mustang - 3/13/2008 1:38:19 PM   
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    Maximum torque on an electric motor is at 0 RPM so the thing would take off like a rocket.  Talk about burning up tires...

    Unfortunately it will probably weigh 3 tons and have a range of 50 miles.

    Battery technology needs to make great strides before electric cars can be taken seriously.

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    No, it's not.

    I am fully aware of the Tesla Motors car.  It has 248 hp, just over 200 ft-lbs of torque and weighs 2800 lbs, a hell of a lot for a Lotus Elise size roadster.  Real world testing has shown it has a usable range of about 150 miles, less if you really get on it.  Roneale is talking 300 hp and 1000 ft-lbs - that will require considerably more current to produce. 

    I agree 100% with your statement on pollution.  And you also need to account for the pollution produced in making and disposing of the batteries.  You never hear about these concerns.  It's as if the electricity magically appears at the outlet.

    Martin 


    I'm just saying they're able to get some pretty reasonable performance into a fairly small package... and 150 miles is a much better range than the Volt or anything else out there... I'm by no means for the electric cars though as I think I made clear in the post before... I am all for bio-butanol or DME however...


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    RE: The Electric mustang - 3/13/2008 1:55:47 PM   
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    You guys make it seem like it costs more to produce/dispose of batteries than it does to pump petro, refine it, ship it to the gas station etc.  I guarentee it isn't even on the same level.

    Nothing will magically get rid of pollution, but electric cars vs gas/diesel?  it's not even comparable.


    Let's examine this reasoning.

    To produce electricity from:
    Oil - need to pump, refine and ship it to the power plant...

    Gas - need to pump, refine and ship it to the power plant...

    Coal - need to mine, refine, ship it to the power plant and bury the ash in a landfill...

    Nuclear - need to mine, refine, ship it to the power plant, and dispose of the spent fuel rods...

    Hmmm...  Looks like there is a pattern emerging here.

    Want to to use windmills to generate electricity?  You'll have the enviornmentalist's all over you for killing birds of prey - they're trying to shut down the Altamont Pass windfarms for that very reason.

    Solar?  There's a decent alternative except the collectors aren't very efficient, take natural resources to produce and need to be disposed of in time.  Also, you'd need to cover the entire southwest with collectors to provide enough energy.

    All I am saying is there needs to be a technological breakthrough to turn these dreams into reality.

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    RE: The Electric mustang - 3/13/2008 2:03:08 PM   
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    You guys make it seem like it costs more to produce/dispose of batteries than it does to pump petro, refine it, ship it to the gas station etc.  I guarentee it isn't even on the same level.

    Nothing will magically get rid of pollution, but electric cars vs gas/diesel?  it's not even comparable.


    Let's examine this reasoning.

    To produce electricity from:
    Oil - need to pump, refine and ship it to the power plant...

    Gas - need to pump, refine and ship it to the power plant...

    Coal - need to mine, refine, ship it to the power plant and bury the ash in a landfill...

    Nuclear - need to mine, refine, ship it to the power plant, and dispose of the spent fuel rods...

    Hmmm...  Looks like there is a pattern emerging here.

    Want to to use windmills to generate electricity?  You'll have the enviornmentalist's all over you for killing birds of prey - they're trying to shut down the Altamont Pass windfarms for that very reason.

    Solar?  There's a decent alternative except the collectors aren't very efficient, take natural resources to produce and need to be disposed of in time.  Also, you'd need to cover the entire southwest with collectors to provide enough energy.

    All I am saying is there needs to be a technological breakthrough to turn these dreams into reality.

    Martin.


    Enter biofuels... I'm not talking about the ones that most of the general public know about.. I'm talking about DME from biomass and bio-butanol.... If anyone reading this hasn't been reading up on them, go search on them...


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    RE: The Electric mustang - 3/13/2008 2:04:31 PM   
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    True.  But it is still better than gas or ethanol.  The whole ethanol thing is what really pisses me off.

    You ever see Future Cars on discovery HD?  They should work on the technology of the air powered car the guy developed :)

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    RE: The Electric mustang - 3/13/2008 2:11:10 PM   
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    More energy to make than it produces ethanol...  don't even get me started.   Damn lobbyists and our elected weenie's...

    Several folks around here running their diesel F250/F350's on used french fry oil.  Gotta read up on those other biofuels.


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    RE: The Electric mustang - 3/13/2008 2:15:41 PM   
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    There was a pimp-my-ride episode where they turned a chevelle? into a bio-diesel monster, something crazy like 600hp and 23mpg?

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    RE: The Electric mustang - 3/13/2008 2:20:43 PM   
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    I watched that episode.  It ran off biodiesel.  It was with govenor shwarzenblablah on it

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    RE: The Electric mustang - 3/13/2008 2:31:55 PM   
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    Bio-diesel is going to go the same route as ethanol. The problem is the farmers can only put out so much. DME or bio-butanol can be produced from gassified waste streams. Imagine taking municipal wastes and converting them into fuels. Used tires, plastics, animal waste.... All sorts of waste to energy methods are in the works... Give us some time, we're getting there... 

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