Or someone who actually worked with the owner of an exhaust shop (specializing in muscle cars and performance trucks) to fabricate the pipe where we took off the muffler. "Ay thank you"
Like I said, I've had my muffler gone for two whole years. NO PROBLEMS. NO COMPLAINTS. NOTHING BUT COMPLIMENTS...from people who own GTs, Z06 Corvettes, Chevy V8 Trucks, etc. When I first bought the car, I took it to that shop and had an IMCO muffler put on. A week later, took it off and threw it in the garbage. With a muffler, these cars are hopeless IMO if you want a meaner non-quiet non-ricer sounding car. I went a little more in depth with this setup though. Cut off the muffler right at the axle, welded an extending pipe that was fabricated inside to cut back the drone a bit, installed new exhaust clamps/hangers and welded a 3" chrome tip. I've never heard ONE rattle from the pipe, hit it on a speed bump (consider my car is lowered now too), never had to replace a hanger either.
Yea I wouldnt take the muffler off if you just ordered another muffler... because you will be dissapointed when you have to put the new muffler on. When you first start it up without the muffler you wont want to put it back on.
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Are you guys serious????!! Our cars without a muffler sound like junk. I took mine off last summer while "experimenting" with different set ups. Upon startup, it did sound cool-- very similar to a V8, but once the engine is warmed up, the exhaust noise quiets down, and all I heard was air puffing out of the pipe and a quiet, mellow engine gurgling that did not sound like a V8 at all.
I was literally embarrassed to step on it on the streets. It rumbled like a cheap dishwasher. I even had a friend drive it so I could hear it go by, and it sounded really bad--ear piercingly bad.
Not only did it sound bad, I could feel performance loss! My car didn't take off as quickly.
I tried duals without mufflers-- sounded even worse than before. When I added mufflers, I could feel a power increase. Not enough back pressure before? I don't know.. but I did feel a negative difference without a muffler.
It's probably ok to try out for a couple days since you're curious... that 's why I did it. But really... have a friend drive your car so you can hear it from the outside... it'll change you opinion.
OMG THANK YOU!!! I was hoping I wasn't the only sane one here. IMO, the people on here that think it sounds good wouldn't recognize a fart can ricer muffler from our 4.0 w/o a muffler. I've done it, I'd never do it again. Took it off one time to experiment and took it for a drive....got on it once, heard it, turned back around towards home with my tail in between my leg. I was embarrassed, it sounded HORRIBLE, much like the ricers I make fun of all the time. Let's face it, you can only get away with no muffler if you have a V8, that's all there is to it.
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Maybe it's just your car that sounds like that? Like I said, there's a lot more to it then just slicing off the muffler and leaving it that way. I sure do know the difference between a POS import can and a real domestic muscle car. I'm sure many of the folks here do
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Are you guys serious????!! Our cars without a muffler sound like junk. I took mine off last summer while "experimenting" with different set ups. Upon startup, it did sound cool-- very similar to a V8, but once the engine is warmed up, the exhaust noise quiets down, and all I heard was air puffing out of the pipe and a quiet, mellow engine gurgling that did not sound like a V8 at all.
I was literally embarrassed to step on it on the streets. It rumbled like a cheap dishwasher. I even had a friend drive it so I could hear it go by, and it sounded really bad--ear piercingly bad.
Not only did it sound bad, I could feel performance loss! My car didn't take off as quickly.
I tried duals without mufflers-- sounded even worse than before. When I added mufflers, I could feel a power increase. Not enough back pressure before? I don't know.. but I did feel a negative difference without a muffler.
It's probably ok to try out for a couple days since you're curious... that 's why I did it. But really... have a friend drive your car so you can hear it from the outside... it'll change you opinion.
OMG THANK YOU!!! I was hoping I wasn't the only sane one here. IMO, the people on here that think it sounds good wouldn't recognize a fart can ricer muffler from our 4.0 w/o a muffler. I've done it, I'd never do it again. Took it off one time to experiment and took it for a drive....got on it once, heard it, turned back around towards home with my tail in between my leg. I was embarrassed, it sounded HORRIBLE, much like the ricers I make fun of all the time. Let's face it, you can only get away with no muffler if you have a V8, that's all there is to it.
I got a pypes x pipe and mid pipes with pypes muffler deletes. When I was selling my single magnaflow muffler the guy that baught it from me wanted to see how my car sounded and he thought it was a v8.
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Sounds clips dont me anything IMO. Most people just say "oooohhhh ahhhhh" based on the brand. I bet I could post a clip of a MAC muffler and say it was my Corsas and people would say things like "those sound great!".
Seriously, unless you are using some serious recording equipment, all these clips just sound like "brrrrrrrr bwooom bwoooooom"
Maybe it's just your car that sounds like that? Like I said, there's a lot more to it then just slicing off the muffler and leaving it that way. I sure do know the difference between a POS import can and a real domestic muscle car. I'm sure many of the folks here do
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Are you guys serious????!! Our cars without a muffler sound like junk. I took mine off last summer while "experimenting" with different set ups. Upon startup, it did sound cool-- very similar to a V8, but once the engine is warmed up, the exhaust noise quiets down, and all I heard was air puffing out of the pipe and a quiet, mellow engine gurgling that did not sound like a V8 at all.
I was literally embarrassed to step on it on the streets. It rumbled like a cheap dishwasher. I even had a friend drive it so I could hear it go by, and it sounded really bad--ear piercingly bad.
Not only did it sound bad, I could feel performance loss! My car didn't take off as quickly.
I tried duals without mufflers-- sounded even worse than before. When I added mufflers, I could feel a power increase. Not enough back pressure before? I don't know.. but I did feel a negative difference without a muffler.
It's probably ok to try out for a couple days since you're curious... that 's why I did it. But really... have a friend drive your car so you can hear it from the outside... it'll change you opinion.
OMG THANK YOU!!! I was hoping I wasn't the only sane one here. IMO, the people on here that think it sounds good wouldn't recognize a fart can ricer muffler from our 4.0 w/o a muffler. I've done it, I'd never do it again. Took it off one time to experiment and took it for a drive....got on it once, heard it, turned back around towards home with my tail in between my leg. I was embarrassed, it sounded HORRIBLE, much like the ricers I make fun of all the time. Let's face it, you can only get away with no muffler if you have a V8, that's all there is to it.
Guess I don't quite follow that. Just my car? I would think all 4.0 Colognes would sound pretty much identical. A lot more to it that just slicing the muffler off...that's what the OP was talking about, just taking the muffler off. Straight piped is straight piped, what else is there to it.. besides maybe adding tips? a couple more feet of pipe and a shiny tip isn't gunna keep it from sounding like crap anything above 1.5 RPMs IMO
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I really don't think exhaust sound clips get the true sound of a car. I think most people should hear it in person before buying a setup. Unless they are willing to splurge the money and see if it's the same as what they heard. But as far as a straight pipe goes...there is fabrication involved just like in a muffler. Adding an exhaust tip makes a noticeable difference when it comes to sound.
4.0 Stang- I plan on purchasing the same parts from Pypes to convert my car to duals
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Maybe it's just your car that sounds like that? Like I said, there's a lot more to it then just slicing off the muffler and leaving it that way. I sure do know the difference between a POS import can and a real domestic muscle car. I'm sure many of the folks here do
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Are you guys serious????!! Our cars without a muffler sound like junk. I took mine off last summer while "experimenting" with different set ups. Upon startup, it did sound cool-- very similar to a V8, but once the engine is warmed up, the exhaust noise quiets down, and all I heard was air puffing out of the pipe and a quiet, mellow engine gurgling that did not sound like a V8 at all.
I was literally embarrassed to step on it on the streets. It rumbled like a cheap dishwasher. I even had a friend drive it so I could hear it go by, and it sounded really bad--ear piercingly bad.
Not only did it sound bad, I could feel performance loss! My car didn't take off as quickly.
I tried duals without mufflers-- sounded even worse than before. When I added mufflers, I could feel a power increase. Not enough back pressure before? I don't know.. but I did feel a negative difference without a muffler.
It's probably ok to try out for a couple days since you're curious... that 's why I did it. But really... have a friend drive your car so you can hear it from the outside... it'll change you opinion.
OMG THANK YOU!!! I was hoping I wasn't the only sane one here. IMO, the people on here that think it sounds good wouldn't recognize a fart can ricer muffler from our 4.0 w/o a muffler. I've done it, I'd never do it again. Took it off one time to experiment and took it for a drive....got on it once, heard it, turned back around towards home with my tail in between my leg. I was embarrassed, it sounded HORRIBLE, much like the ricers I make fun of all the time. Let's face it, you can only get away with no muffler if you have a V8, that's all there is to it.
Guess I don't quite follow that. Just my car? I would think all 4.0 Colognes would sound pretty much identical. A lot more to it that just slicing the muffler off...that's what the OP was talking about, just taking the muffler off. Straight piped is straight piped, what else is there to it.. besides maybe adding tips? a couple more feet of pipe and a shiny tip isn't gunna keep it from sounding like crap anything above 1.5 RPMs IMO
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I really don't think exhaust sound clips get the true sound of a car. I think most people should hear it in person before buying a setup. Unless they are willing to splurge the money and see if it's the same as what they heard. But as far as a straight pipe goes...there is fabrication involved just like in a muffler. Adding an exhaust tip makes a noticeable difference when it comes to sound.
I really don't think exhaust sound clips get the true sound of a car. I think most people should hear it in person before buying a setup. Unless they are willing to splurge the money and see if it's the same as what they heard. But as far as a straight pipe goes...there is fabrication involved just like in a muffler. Adding an exhaust tip makes a noticeable difference when it comes to sound.
I hope to god that was a typo.....
lol I just noticed that, I'm hoping the same haha.
I really don't think exhaust sound clips get the true sound of a car. I think most people should hear it in person before buying a setup. Unless they are willing to splurge the money and see if it's the same as what they heard. But as far as a straight pipe goes...there is fabrication involved just like in a muffler. Adding an exhaust tip makes a noticeable difference when it comes to sound.
I hope to god that was a typo.....
lol I just noticed that, I'm hoping the same haha.
ive always thought that staight thru exhaust was hard on the valves
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I really don't think exhaust sound clips get the true sound of a car. I think most people should hear it in person before buying a setup. Unless they are willing to splurge the money and see if it's the same as what they heard. But as far as a straight pipe goes...there is fabrication involved just like in a muffler. Adding an exhaust tip makes a noticeable difference when it comes to sound.
4.0 Stang- I plan on purchasing the same parts from Pypes to convert my car to duals
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Not the tip, the fabrication inside the pipe.
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You are right, sound clips don't give you quite the true sound of the car. And on that note, I think straight pipes sound worse in person than they do in the clips (I tried it). In this clip: http://marklhammond.googlepages.com/05MustangV6nomuffler.mpg they don't even rev it to that high of an RPM where it sounds way worse. Having no muffler sounds decent at the low RPMs, it's the mid and high RPM's where it starts to sound like a sick goose.
Once again, the OP was talking about removing the muffler and running the setup just like that. Not adding "fabrication inside the pipe", whatever that means. What exactly do you mean by that? If you are fabricating something inside the pipe, that's not straight pipes. Straight pipes are exactly that: pipes off the cats; no mufflers, no mid-mufflers, no resonators, no "fabrication inside the pipe." And even if he DID decide to run two more feet of pipe and add a tip, I really don't agree at all that adding a tip makes a difference in sound. Slap a tip on the stock muffler and tell me if it makes our cars sound mean or throaty.
Not trying to bust your stones, but I wouldn't want somebody to think they are going to have a sweet sounding exhaust, so they take off their stock muffler and think adding a tip is going to make a "noticeable difference" so they pay a shop to run two more feet and add a fancy new chrome tip, get on the road and really get on it....and be disappointed.
if anyone thinks about doing this, they should just take the muffler off themselves, take the car for a spin and get on it. Sure the car sounds pretty good in the low RPMs. See if it sounds that good in the higher RPMs. If you like the flatulent sound being emitted from the rear of your car, more power to ya. But don't spend any money on it until you've heard it in person and made up your own mind. [/rant]
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Like I said, there's a lot more to it then just slicing off the muffler and leaving it that way. I sure do know the difference between a POS import can and a real domestic muscle car. I'm sure many of the folks here do 
