My car has been down at ST Motorsports for a while now. The story is below....
http://www.mustangforums.com/m_4372455/tm.htm
Adam called me a little while ago made the first pass and pulled 505 and 480tq. I asked the psi and he said he thought it was 14.5. He called me back and said he looked into it and it was 12psi:D
More to come throughout the day. Adam says it looks really nice on the KB manifold, photos soon.

Holy crap! I'm curious to see what numbers you'll be pulling once you hit the top end of that supercharger's abilities.

Has it been tuned yet or is that the first time on the dyno?

ORIGINAL: moosestang

Has it been tuned yet or is that the first time on the dyno?


1st pass

that's great sawyer, can't wait to see
pics

ORIGINAL: sawyer

My car has been down at ST Motorsports for a while now. The story is below....
http://www.mustangforums.com/m_4372455/tm.htm
Adam called me a little while ago made the first pass and pulled 505 and 480tq. I asked the psi and he said he thought it was 14.5. He called me back and said he looked into it and it was 12psi:D
More to come throughout the day. Adam says it looks really nice on the KB manifold, photos soon.


Congrats!

I just looked at your thread link but just read you 1st post didn't read all the pages so don't know if the belwo was posted but a couple questions.

What c.i and whatc.r are you running?
Look foward to seeing some final numbers on this setupand good luck!

Nice sawyer !!! Please keep us informed because i'm willing to buy Adams 3.4 kit in a near future....

Are you planing on getting the max out of pump gas? or what are your plans? :)

Gratz gratz

ORIGINAL: TJ

ORIGINAL: sawyer

My car has been down at ST Motorsports for a while now. The story is below....
http://www.mustangforums.com/m_4372455/tm.htm
Adam called me a little while ago made the first pass and pulled 505 and 480tq. I asked the psi and he said he thought it was 14.5. He called me back and said he looked into it and it was 12psi:D
More to come throughout the day. Adam says it looks really nice on the KB manifold, photos soon.


Congrats!

I just looked at your thread link but just read you 1st post didn't read all the pages so don't know if the belwo was posted but a couple questions.

What c.i and whatc.r are you running?
Look foward to seeing some final numbers on this setupand good luck!

stock bore and stroke...c.r?

compression ratio I guess TJ was refering to.

ORIGINAL: sawyer

ORIGINAL: TJ

ORIGINAL: sawyer

My car has been down at ST Motorsports for a while now. The story is below....
http://www.mustangforums.com/m_4372455/tm.htm
Adam called me a little while ago made the first pass and pulled 505 and 480tq. I asked the psi and he said he thought it was 14.5. He called me back and said he looked into it and it was 12psi:D
More to come throughout the day. Adam says it looks really nice on the KB manifold, photos soon.


Congrats!

I just looked at your thread link but just read you 1st post didn't read all the pages so don't know if the belwo was posted but a couple questions.

What c.i and whatc.r are you running?
Look foward to seeing some final numbers on this setupand good luck!

stock bore and stroke...c.r?


What compression ratio are you running?

So this is a stock bore this is going to be veryinteresting a true 4.6/281c.i. with a 3.4L. I haven't research the rod angle on a stroked 4.6/298/302 but for long engine life sometimes a stock stoke is better imo.

One last question what maf sensor are you running?

ORIGINAL: TJ


One last question what maf sensor are you running?


Ditto on the MAF and also how much psi are you going to run? I'd like to see some numbers with 20-25psi please!:D

I'm 99% sure he is using a Diablosport MAFia.

ORIGINAL: TJ

ORIGINAL: sawyer

ORIGINAL: TJ

ORIGINAL: sawyer

My car has been down at ST Motorsports for a while now. The story is below....
http://www.mustangforums.com/m_4372455/tm.htm
Adam called me a little while ago made the first pass and pulled 505 and 480tq. I asked the psi and he said he thought it was 14.5. He called me back and said he looked into it and it was 12psi:D
More to come throughout the day. Adam says it looks really nice on the KB manifold, photos soon.


Congrats!

I just looked at your thread link but just read you 1st post didn't read all the pages so don't know if the belwo was posted but a couple questions.

What c.i and whatc.r are you running?
Look foward to seeing some final numbers on this setupand good luck!

stock bore and stroke...c.r?


What compression ratio are you running?

So this is a stock bore this is going to be veryinteresting a true 4.6/281c.i. with a 3.4L. I haven't research the rod angle on a stroked 4.6/298/302 but for long engine life sometimes a stock stoke is better imo.

One last question what maf sensor are you running?

I believe it is 8.8 to 1, it is lower than stock.
I am running the Mafia, it is right near the inlet tube. My car is 1000 miles away right now, so I almost forgot what it looks like. I am waiting on numbers also:(

pics pics pics!

ORIGINAL: MexGT

Nice sawyer !!! Please keep us informed because i'm willing to buy Adams 3.4 kit in a near future....

Are you planing on getting the max out of pump gas? or what are your plans? :)

Gratz gratz

I am going to max out on pump....hopefully 550+

I hear ya ... thats what i'm planing also! cool :)

The time is upon us! cannot wait for the final result....bet you are pleased;).....3.4L FTW!

Just an update for you guys...

I was at the shop yesterday and John's car was on the dyno. The bypass valve was bad and is being replaced today but the car put down 527rwhp / 484ftq at just over 10 psi with the bypass valve not working correctly.

With the by pass fixed, it will put out more. Great numbers for 10 psi on a 281ci...:)

This blower is not even working yet...lol

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nice

527 rwhp? HOLY CRAP!

I hope Adam @ ST has time for me this summer to drive from Canada and get some forged internals. It would be awesome to make a holiday out of it, and get a pro to work on my car.

We are right at??? rwhp and??? rwtq at 20psi and 100 octane (STILL A WORK IN PROGRESS).
I am pretty stoked to get my car back. I will be running the 16 lb pully on pump for the steet to the tune of 545 rwhp and 502 rwtq;)
My car has cats and everything on the heads, cams,and exhaustare stock. If I wanted to drop some more coin we could get 740+ on 100 octane.
Pictures are coming soon.

Wow, nice build!! Those are big numbers!! good stuff Sawyer!

Nice numbers!

I was almost a converted Kenne Bell believer....then he up and changed his mind on me. [:o]

ORIGINAL: sawyer

We are right at 650 rwhp and 600 rwtq at 20psi and 100 octane. This seems to be the limit on a totaly stock 4.6. I am pretty stoked to get my car back. I will be running the 16 lb pully on pump for the steet to the tune of 545 rwhp and 502 rwtq;)
My car has cats and everything on the heads, cams,and exhaustare stock. If I wanted to drop some more coin we could get 740+ on 100 octane.
Pictures are coming soon.


Very impressive numbers!! good luck with your project

How the hell is that stock motor holding up that much power??

Adam must be a magic tuner aka the best!

.... he is not with stock motor, he had a KB before with forged assembly.

ORIGINAL: MexGT

.... he is not with stock motor, he had a KB before with forged assembly.

zackly...if it was stock I would have a rod sticking out the side of the block by now;)

Nice John!!!:) Glad to see you finally getting that thing finished.

Great numbers and it is going to be a monster on the street.

Now just sit back and wait for a couple days and I'll show you what you can do with the 3.4 with a few more mods and some extra cubes...[8D]

ORIGINAL: sawyer

We are right at 650 rwhp and 600 rwtq at 20psi and 100 octane. This seems to be the limit on a totaly stock 4.6. I am pretty stoked to get my car back. I will be running the 16 lb pully on pump for the steet to the tune of 545 rwhp and 502 rwtq;)
My car has cats and everything on the heads, cams,and exhaustare stock. If I wanted to drop some more coin we could get 740+ on 100 octane.
Pictures are coming soon.


What are you referring to here? Is it the heads and valve train? The block? I have heard the block will take up to about 1000hp. If you are saying you have reached the max efficiency of the heads I get it.

Thanks,

And congrats on the numbers that is sick.

Can anyone comment on what a 2.3L whipple would put out at 15psi and pump gas? Stock displacement with stock heads, forged internals, on pump gas.

ORIGINAL: MustangGT0405

ORIGINAL: sawyer

We are right at 650 rwhp and 600 rwtq at 20psi and 100 octane. This seems to be the limit on a totaly stock 4.6. I am pretty stoked to get my car back. I will be running the 16 lb pully on pump for the steet to the tune of 545 rwhp and 502 rwtq;)
My car has cats and everything on the heads, cams,Â*and exhaustÂ*are stock. If I wanted to drop some more coin we could get 740+ on 100 octane.
Pictures are coming soon.


What are you referring to here?Â* Is it the heads and valve train?Â* The block?Â* I have heard the block will take up to about 1000hp.Â* If you are saying you have reached the max efficiency of the heads I get it.

Thanks,

And congrats on the numbers that is sick.

Can anyone comment on what a 2.3L whipple would put out at 15psi and pump gas?Â* Stock displacement with stock heads, forged internals, on pump gas.



He was talking about stock 4.6 minus a forged bottom end. The valve train and exhaust are all stock. He's saying this was about the limit without increasing the flow from the stock set-up. L/T's, good valve train, p/p heads, cams, and full exhaust would see over 700 rwhp on his car at 20 psi.

To answer your question - my guess is about 520'ish with a good tune.

Here is what Paul (Psfracer) makes with 16 psi and bolt-on's...

2005 GT Auto / Whipple @ 16psi GI Joe 8-rib / forged bottom end built and tuned by ST Motorsports / 577rwhp-519rwtq / M&H 325's

ORIGINAL: modaddict

Nice John!!!:) Glad to see you finally getting that thing finished.

Great numbers and it is going to be a monster on the street.

Now just sit back and wait for a couple days and I'll show you what you can do with the 3.4 with a few more mods and some extra cubes...[8D]

Yes, it feels good to be getting closer. 545 is going to be great on the street. Adam added the KB gt 500 mass air meter and he said the ideling and drivability are greatly improved.

I am calling my shot...your car will put down right at 900 on race fuel;)

ORIGINAL: MustangGT0405

ORIGINAL: sawyer

We are right at 650 rwhp and 600 rwtq at 20psi and 100 octane. This seems to be the limit on a totaly stock 4.6. I am pretty stoked to get my car back. I will be running the 16 lb pully on pump for the steet to the tune of 545 rwhp and 502 rwtq;)
My car has cats and everything on the heads, cams,and exhaustare stock. If I wanted to drop some more coin we could get 740+ on 100 octane.
Pictures are coming soon.


What are you referring to here? Is it the heads and valve train? The block? I have heard the block will take up to about 1000hp. If you are saying you have reached the max efficiency of the heads I get it.

Thanks,

And congrats on the numbers that is sick.

Can anyone comment on what a 2.3L whipple would put out at 15psi and pump gas? Stock displacement with stock heads, forged internals, on pump gas.



Modaddict nailed it below. There is a law of diminishing returns on the stock bore and stroke 4.6. At this point I will need to invest probably 3k for every additional 40-50 hp I want to get, so it is tapped out. I am happy with the 545 rwhpdaily driver, I may be able to suprise a random Vett or Bimmernow.

'Shock' is a better word...:D

I don't think I'm going to put down 900 strictly because of my trans. It is a power robbing SOB. (I love it though...lol) I would definitely make 900 with a manual and I'll for sure be over 1000 to the crank...[:o]

I lose a whopping 22% with no lock-up and no kickdown on the dyno but my torque curve is going to be up there. My guess is I'm going to see about 810 rwhp and about 940 ftq on the race tune and about 700rwhp / 820 ftq on pump gas for the street...;)

Good thing is we'll know next week...YEAH!!!![8D]

ORIGINAL: modaddict

ORIGINAL: MustangGT0405

What are you referring to here? Is it the heads and valve train? The block? I have heard the block will take up to about 1000hp. If you are saying you have reached the max efficiency of the heads I get it.

Thanks,

And congrats on the numbers that is sick.

Can anyone comment on what a 2.3L whipple would put out at 15psi and pump gas? Stock displacement with stock heads, forged internals, on pump gas.



He was talking about stock 4.6 minus a forged bottom end. The valve train and exhaust are all stock. He's saying this was about the limit without increasing the flow from the stock set-up. L/T's, good valve train, p/p heads, cams, and full exhaust would see over 700 rwhp on his car at 20 psi.

To answer your question - my guess is about 520'ish with a good tune.

Here is what Paul (Psfracer) makes with 16 psi and bolt-on's...

2005 GT Auto / Whipple @ 16psi GI Joe 8-rib / forged bottom end built and tuned by ST Motorsports / 577rwhp-519rwtq / M&H 325's



Understood that was my thought, just kind of confused me with the stock motor reference.

Yeah 500+ to the wheels is fine with me. I dont think I want to change out all the valvetrain or anything for a street car.

Lucky my wallet and wife keep a tight reign on me or I would be trying to get up there with you guys. I have one of those personalities.

For years I just wished I could get a blower, now I wish I had a built bottom end :D. It never ends.

HP junkies :D

Makes me feel so insignificant. lol
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Pictures are on the same thread over here. Put s197 in the **** area.


s197
http://www.s197forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=4563

very nice!!:)

More ,more , more I want more hp give it to me how much is it come on I gotta have it!!!

Lucky my wallet and wife keep a tight reign on me

Ahh yes the killer of all dreams lol damn the woman

Pictures!!!


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The pics are great but so small! Need bigger pics ASAP! Thanks.....love it and damn that blower is huge! J

Here is the deal, I can not figure out how to make them bigger? They are bigger in the email attachment, but when I post them they turn into Smurf's?

get them into www.photobucket.com (http://www.photobucket.com) or imageshack.com something like that and post them here :D

I got one of them to work. I tried the photobucket route and the pictures are still small[:@]

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u know ... for the guys that are excited for this project (like me!) 1 picture is not enough ... :D

pics pics pics !! ;)

John - you may be attaching the thumbnails and not the actual pics??

ORIGINAL: modaddict

John - you may be attaching the thumbnails and not the actual pics??


Ha ha, you nailed it brother!

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I want want want want want want !!

Sick. Absolutely sick. I'm jealous.

Amazing![sm=massbounce.gif][sm=groupwave.gif][sm=happybounce.gif]

Looks good and nice numbers!

any final dyno #'s?

ORIGINAL: MexGT

any final dyno #'s?


They are coming......We have some belt slip issues. We need to get an eight rib pulley that fits. Dustin Whipple is working on the custom pully:D

uuhmmmm interesting news, because I asked adam about that 2 weeks ago and he told me that the 3.4 belt is wide enough for not slipping at 16 psi aprox (the psi I'm looking for).

I'll keep that in mind ;)

ORIGINAL: MexGT

uuhmmmm interesting news, because I asked adam about that 2 weeks ago and he told me that the 3.4 belt is wide enough for not slipping at 16 psi aprox (the psi I'm looking for).

I'll keep that in mind ;)

Adam is correct, we were at 22psi. At 16 we he did not have slip. The only pulleys He has are 6 rib, so my 8 rib setup is not being used untilized we can get the wider pulley.

22 psi? [:-]Thought u were maxing out only pump gas ! lol

Then I have nothing to worry about thanks sawyer :)

Nope, I want the top line number to be on race gas:D
I will have 2 tunes, probably 15lbs for the street. More info coming next week.

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ORIGINAL: sawyer

I got one of them to work. I tried the photobucket route and the pictures are still small[:@]

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Mine looks so small now[:@]. I think imma call it Whipple jr.

Cant wait for the final numbers! this is awesome! J

ORIGINAL: mygt500

Cant wait for the final numbers! this is awesome! J

We have 646 rwhp righ now with belt slip. I have an 8 rib set up, but we need an 8 rib pulley. I am very satisfied with 646, but I want to see the peak as well.
My car may be saying cheese real soon as well;)

what PSI? whats your TQ like?

ORIGINAL: Dex

what PSI? whats your TQ like?

I am not posative, I am 1000 miles away. I believe it was 21 psi and the tq was real close like 625. I will have the dyno sheets late next week.

so was your engine broken in at all before this?

ORIGINAL: Dex

so was your engine broken in at all before this?

Yeah, I made 3 trips out to 21 plalms or what ever the name of that casino is. Then big John drove it for a week. We had roughly 900-1000 miles on it. My car has been in SoCal for over 4 months, I am afraid that when I get it back it might be gay lol.
Adam is a tuner that knows his stuff, he wouldn't beat on a motor that hadn't been broken in. In fact while I was down there he received 2 jobs from other tuners that had f'd up. One was a forged motor thathad a couplemelted pistons and one was a blower install gone bad. I drove a long way to insure I got the best and I am glad I did;)

Yea, im having to drive from salt lake to vegas this weekend to get it done right.It sucks to have down time especially when its someone elses F-up. Iwould drive days to get it done right. Utah doesnt have anything out here and the only tuner we did have is throwing in the towel.

I'll have 500 city miles on the new motor and 400 or so miles of highway driving to vegas. I have asked around and this seemsto be ok. I'll change the oil at 500 miles though

ORIGINAL: Dex

Yea, im having to drive from salt lake to vegas this weekend to get it done right.It sucks to have down time especially when its someone elses F-up. Iwould drive days to get it done right. Utah doesnt have anything out here and the only tuner we did have is throwing in the towel.

I'll have 500 city miles on the new motor and 400 or so miles of highway driving to vegas. I have asked around and this seemsto be ok. I'll change the oil at 500 miles though

Oh thats right, didn't you have the sts turbosystem and the tuner messed it up?

i wont get into it ;)

Cost me alot of money to get this all fixed and I got the HP Kit instead. Going on since sept.

Adam (ST Motorsports)just ran the car on stock suspension sitting on sportlines (lowered 2") with a drag radial (Irwindale).
7.30 99mph 1.80 60' "pussy shifting it"
He said he is about to do run number 2 and he will probably get kicked out this time
Update coming...[/align][/align]second run 7.10 102.19 mph

Evicted from the track

Suspension/cage coming soon.....[/align]

Damn that's hott!!! OMG

New picture from the photo shoot;)



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So what was the total cost for everything ( no need to brek down the numbers and that S/C and intake look amazing! Love the pics and great numbers so far.... doesn't the 8-rib setup come with the pulleys for the 8 rib belt? still learning....where you get the 8 rib setup...is it the GIJoe setup I plan on getting this summer with a new tensioner and crank pulley (all billet aluminum) from another forum (PM for details if you need them...would like to help! ) J

ORIGINAL: mygt500

So what was the total cost for everything ( no need to brek down the numbers and that S/C and intake look amazing! Love the pics and great numbers so far.... doesn't the 8-rib setup come with the pulleys for the 8 rib belt? still learning....where you get the 8 rib setup...is it the GIJoe setup I plan on getting this summer with a new tensioner and crank pulley (all billet aluminum) from another forum (PM for details if you need them...would like to help! ) J

PM sent on the pricing.
Kenne Bell 8 rib kit, but we are running a 6 rib pulley and belt (Whipple is cutting the 8 rib for me).
You must be getting the thumpper tensioner. It is a nice piece, but I went whit Adam's.

Truly amazing.

You are right it is the thumper tensioner and PM sent thanks for the info! J
ORIGINAL: sawyer

ORIGINAL: mygt500

So what was the total cost for everything ( no need to brek down the numbers and that S/C and intake look amazing! Love the pics and great numbers so far.... doesn't the 8-rib setup come with the pulleys for the 8 rib belt? still learning....where you get the 8 rib setup...is it the GIJoe setup I plan on getting this summer with a new tensioner and crank pulley (all billet aluminum) from another forum (PM for details if you need them...would like to help! ) J

PM sent on the pricing.
Kenne Bell 8 rib kit, but we are running a 6 rib pulley and belt (Whipple is cutting the 8 rib for me).
You must be getting the thumpper tensioner. It is a nice piece, but I went whit Adam's.

A little video of the 7.1 102.19 run (Adam did leave early)

http://videos.streetfire.net/video/KB-26-vrs-Whipple-34-3-20-08_154754.htm

EDIT: the video is awesome but leaving me wanting more!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


New sig pic looks awesome..........;) Jon! J

ORIGINAL: mygt500

EDIT: the video is awesome but leaving me wanting more!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


New sig pic looks awesome..........;) Jon! J

A video of my car is coming soon, smokey burnout etc.

I also am getting a cage on Monday and a BMR suspension, panhard, girdle,etc. Time to get into the 10's[8D]

Thanks, I can hardly remember who helped me with the sig pic hmmmm.....oh yeah, it was you:DThanks man!

nice looking whipbell ya got there :)

another thing i note, is the lack of a
strut tower brace....if you and MA don't
need 'em, i guess i don't either....

if you guys really needed one, i suppose you
would get custom hoods for the needed
clearance

Hammeron -I see no hood must have been a clearance problem!;).....LOL J/K


EDIT : Jon thanks for the props J

:D:D good point....maybe they are hoodless
for now on

ORIGINAL: mygt500

Hammeron -I see no hood must have been a clearance problem!;).....LOL J/K


EDIT : Jon thanks for the props J


Had to sell the hood for scrap metal to help with the soaring costs:)

But having a 3.4 whipple and doing 10's with only pump gas .... PRICELESS !! ;)

Mex and the one liners and the emoticons!!!!!!!!!!! FTW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! J
ORIGINAL: MexGT

But having a 3.4 whipple and doing 10's with only pump gas .... PRICELESS !! ;)

that was good :D


ORIGINAL: sawyer

Had to sell the hood for scrap metal to help with the soaring costs:)

And the dyno sheet says......

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that was pump gas run ?

I believe it was on 93 octane!

I just found some brown stuff in my pants.

ORIGINAL: MexGT

that was pump gas run ?

No that was on 100 octane. Pump gas (91 octane is all we have[:@]) was only 540 rwhp:D

ORIGINAL: black S197

I just found some brown stuff in my pants.

Here is the dyno pull, get a new pair on lol

http://www.modernmustangmuscle.com/videos/whipple34dyno2.html

Bery nice numbers. Adam did a clean job with the intake.


ORIGINAL: sawyer

And the dyno sheet says......

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Awesome !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Is that what you plan on running on the street![8D] LOL J
ORIGINAL: sawyer

ORIGINAL: black S197

I just found some brown stuff in my pants.

Here is the dyno pull, get a new pair on lol

http://www.modernmustangmuscle.com/videos/whipple34dyno2.html

7-9 bucks a gallon[&:]nope lol

Rock on, glad to see its done.

I finished my Whipple install at 3 am this morning!