RE: 3.4L Whipple installed!
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RE: 3.4L Whipple installed! - 3/11/2008 8:53:36 PM
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sawyer
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We are right at ??? rwhp and ??? rwtq at 20psi and 100 octane (STILL A WORK IN PROGRESS).
I am pretty stoked to get my car back. I will be running the 16 lb pully on pump for the steet to the tune of 545 rwhp and 502 rwtq
My car has cats and everything on the heads, cams, and exhaust are stock. If I wanted to drop some more coin we could get 740+ on 100 octane.
Pictures are coming soon.
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RE: 3.4L Whipple installed! - 3/11/2008 9:03:32 PM
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Wow, nice build!! Those are big numbers!! good stuff Sawyer!
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RE: 3.4L Whipple installed! - 3/12/2008 12:22:08 AM
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I was almost a converted Kenne Bell believer....then he up and changed his mind on me. 
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RE: 3.4L Whipple installed! - 3/12/2008 1:47:34 AM
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ORIGINAL: sawyer
We are right at 650 rwhp and 600 rwtq at 20psi and 100 octane. This seems to be the limit on a totaly stock 4.6. I am pretty stoked to get my car back. I will be running the 16 lb pully on pump for the steet to the tune of 545 rwhp and 502 rwtq
My car has cats and everything on the heads, cams, and exhaust are stock. If I wanted to drop some more coin we could get 740+ on 100 octane.
Pictures are coming soon.
Very impressive numbers!! good luck with your project
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RE: 3.4L Whipple installed! - 3/12/2008 3:48:45 AM
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How the hell is that stock motor holding up that much power??
Adam must be a magic tuner aka the best!
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RE: 3.4L Whipple installed! - 3/12/2008 8:12:48 AM
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sawyer
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.... he is not with stock motor, he had a KB before with forged assembly.
zackly...if it was stock I would have a rod sticking out the side of the block by now
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RE: 3.4L Whipple installed! - 3/12/2008 9:41:20 AM
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Nice John!!! Glad to see you finally getting that thing finished.
Great numbers and it is going to be a monster on the street.
Now just sit back and wait for a couple days and I'll show you what you can do with the 3.4 with a few more mods and some extra cubes...
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RE: 3.4L Whipple installed! - 3/12/2008 9:48:39 AM
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MustangGT0405
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ORIGINAL: sawyer
We are right at 650 rwhp and 600 rwtq at 20psi and 100 octane. This seems to be the limit on a totaly stock 4.6. I am pretty stoked to get my car back. I will be running the 16 lb pully on pump for the steet to the tune of 545 rwhp and 502 rwtq
My car has cats and everything on the heads, cams, and exhaust are stock. If I wanted to drop some more coin we could get 740+ on 100 octane.
Pictures are coming soon.
What are you referring to here? Is it the heads and valve train? The block? I have heard the block will take up to about 1000hp. If you are saying you have reached the max efficiency of the heads I get it.
Thanks,
And congrats on the numbers that is sick.
Can anyone comment on what a 2.3L whipple would put out at 15psi and pump gas? Stock displacement with stock heads, forged internals, on pump gas.
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RE: 3.4L Whipple installed! - 3/12/2008 9:53:11 AM
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modaddict
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ORIGINAL: sawyer
We are right at 650 rwhp and 600 rwtq at 20psi and 100 octane. This seems to be the limit on a totaly stock 4.6. I am pretty stoked to get my car back. I will be running the 16 lb pully on pump for the steet to the tune of 545 rwhp and 502 rwtq
My car has cats and everything on the heads, cams, and exhaust are stock. If I wanted to drop some more coin we could get 740+ on 100 octane.
Pictures are coming soon.
What are you referring to here? Is it the heads and valve train? The block? I have heard the block will take up to about 1000hp. If you are saying you have reached the max efficiency of the heads I get it.
Thanks,
And congrats on the numbers that is sick.
Can anyone comment on what a 2.3L whipple would put out at 15psi and pump gas? Stock displacement with stock heads, forged internals, on pump gas.
He was talking about stock 4.6 minus a forged bottom end. The valve train and exhaust are all stock. He's saying this was about the limit without increasing the flow from the stock set-up. L/T's, good valve train, p/p heads, cams, and full exhaust would see over 700 rwhp on his car at 20 psi.
To answer your question - my guess is about 520'ish with a good tune.
Here is what Paul (Psfracer) makes with 16 psi and bolt-on's...
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2005 GT Auto / Whipple @ 16psi GI Joe 8-rib / forged bottom end built and tuned by ST Motorsports / 577rwhp-519rwtq / M&H 325's
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RE: 3.4L Whipple installed! - 3/12/2008 10:30:07 AM
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sawyer
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Nice John!!! Glad to see you finally getting that thing finished.
Great numbers and it is going to be a monster on the street.
Now just sit back and wait for a couple days and I'll show you what you can do with the 3.4 with a few more mods and some extra cubes...
Yes, it feels good to be getting closer. 545 is going to be great on the street. Adam added the KB gt 500 mass air meter and he said the ideling and drivability are greatly improved.
I am calling my shot...your car will put down right at 900 on race fuel
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RE: 3.4L Whipple installed! - 3/12/2008 10:33:28 AM
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sawyer
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ORIGINAL: sawyer
We are right at 650 rwhp and 600 rwtq at 20psi and 100 octane. This seems to be the limit on a totaly stock 4.6. I am pretty stoked to get my car back. I will be running the 16 lb pully on pump for the steet to the tune of 545 rwhp and 502 rwtq
My car has cats and everything on the heads, cams, and exhaust are stock. If I wanted to drop some more coin we could get 740+ on 100 octane.
Pictures are coming soon.
What are you referring to here? Is it the heads and valve train? The block? I have heard the block will take up to about 1000hp. If you are saying you have reached the max efficiency of the heads I get it.
Thanks,
And congrats on the numbers that is sick.
Can anyone comment on what a 2.3L whipple would put out at 15psi and pump gas? Stock displacement with stock heads, forged internals, on pump gas.
Modaddict nailed it below. There is a law of diminishing returns on the stock bore and stroke 4.6. At this point I will need to invest probably 3k for every additional 40-50 hp I want to get, so it is tapped out. I am happy with the 545 rwhp daily driver, I may be able to suprise a random Vett or Bimmer now.
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RE: 3.4L Whipple installed! - 3/12/2008 10:47:16 AM
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modaddict
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'Shock' is a better word...
I don't think I'm going to put down 900 strictly because of my trans. It is a power robbing SOB. (I love it though...lol) I would definitely make 900 with a manual and I'll for sure be over 1000 to the crank...
I lose a whopping 22% with no lock-up and no kickdown on the dyno but my torque curve is going to be up there. My guess is I'm going to see about 810 rwhp and about 940 ftq on the race tune and about 700rwhp / 820 ftq on pump gas for the street...
Good thing is we'll know next week...YEAH!!!!
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RE: 3.4L Whipple installed! - 3/12/2008 12:12:23 PM
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MustangGT0405
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ORIGINAL: MustangGT0405
What are you referring to here? Is it the heads and valve train? The block? I have heard the block will take up to about 1000hp. If you are saying you have reached the max efficiency of the heads I get it.
Thanks,
And congrats on the numbers that is sick.
Can anyone comment on what a 2.3L whipple would put out at 15psi and pump gas? Stock displacement with stock heads, forged internals, on pump gas.
He was talking about stock 4.6 minus a forged bottom end. The valve train and exhaust are all stock. He's saying this was about the limit without increasing the flow from the stock set-up. L/T's, good valve train, p/p heads, cams, and full exhaust would see over 700 rwhp on his car at 20 psi.
To answer your question - my guess is about 520'ish with a good tune.
Here is what Paul (Psfracer) makes with 16 psi and bolt-on's...
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2005 GT Auto / Whipple @ 16psi GI Joe 8-rib / forged bottom end built and tuned by ST Motorsports / 577rwhp-519rwtq / M&H 325's
Understood that was my thought, just kind of confused me with the stock motor reference.
Yeah 500+ to the wheels is fine with me. I dont think I want to change out all the valvetrain or anything for a street car.
Lucky my wallet and wife keep a tight reign on me or I would be trying to get up there with you guys. I have one of those personalities.
For years I just wished I could get a blower, now I wish I had a built bottom end . It never ends.
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