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RE: Me vs 97 Cobra - 3/8/2008 7:08:35 PM   
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Yea, hp plays some part in top speed, but gearing and aerodynamics play just as much.

I'm sure you could get a fox with 210 hp to the 140's, and I know new edges do 145-150.

As for the improvement of the 4V's from '96-'98 and '03-'03 in the Machs
the Mach 1 is a bit underrated from a couple of sources i have seen.

They also improved the power band.. they might only make max hp around 305 or so, but they are a lot beefier throughout the midrange.

Thats why you see quarter miles in high high 13's sometimes for a SN-Cobra, and the occasional low 13 in a Mach




yeah they rated the 03/04 machs the same as 96-98 but they had to be underrated to throw out the same HP but have a better head design stock for stock.


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RE: Me vs 97 Cobra - 3/8/2008 7:11:35 PM   
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I've been in the passenger seat of an '05 GT bone stock with the speedo pegged and still climbing was around 155 when he let off. (best guess based on his acceleration at that speed, RPM's were still climbing)

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RE: Me vs 97 Cobra - 3/9/2008 8:25:22 AM   
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A stock 96-98 cobra tops out at 154 mph.  Thats in 4th gear not 5th gear too.  I am 100% sure about this.

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RE: Me vs 97 Cobra - 3/9/2008 10:25:48 AM   
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I've been in the passenger seat of an '05 GT bone stock with the speedo pegged and still climbing was around 155 when he let off. (best guess based on his acceleration at that speed, RPM's were still climbing)


I doubt the new GT's top out 155+ plus, usually the speedos read wrong at speeds past 130.


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RE: Me vs 97 Cobra - 3/9/2008 10:26:36 AM   
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A stock 96-98 cobra tops out at 154 mph.  Thats in 4th gear not 5th gear too.  I am 100% sure about this.


He now says it tops out at 140.


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RE: Me vs 97 Cobra - 3/9/2008 10:26:40 AM   
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Yeah thats kind of what I was thinking too. I know not to understimate him, and I have heard he is a pretty good driver. But at the age of 16 i'm a little bit inexperienced, this race isn't going down until this summer when I get my license. He will probably beat me due to inexperience, unless I can somehow afford to get some headers, a CAI, and maybe an exhaust or something. Should I race from a roll?


Am I the only one that is terrified by the thought of a newly licensed 16 year old street racing?


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RE: Me vs 97 Cobra - 3/9/2008 11:03:10 AM   
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Yeah thats kind of what I was thinking too. I know not to understimate him, and I have heard he is a pretty good driver. But at the age of 16 i'm a little bit inexperienced, this race isn't going down until this summer when I get my license. He will probably beat me due to inexperience, unless I can somehow afford to get some headers, a CAI, and maybe an exhaust or something. Should I race from a roll?


Am I the only one that is terrified by the thought of a newly licensed 16 year old street racing?



Who said anything about street racing?


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RE: Me vs 97 Cobra - 3/9/2008 11:17:53 AM   
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ORIGINAL: BicketyBam

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ORIGINAL: SkillzDatKillz

Yeah thats kind of what I was thinking too. I know not to understimate him, and I have heard he is a pretty good driver. But at the age of 16 i'm a little bit inexperienced, this race isn't going down until this summer when I get my license. He will probably beat me due to inexperience, unless I can somehow afford to get some headers, a CAI, and maybe an exhaust or something. Should I race from a roll?


Am I the only one that is terrified by the thought of a newly licensed 16 year old street racing?



Who said anything about street racing?



quote:

So what do you guys think will happen if I race this guy? Digg, Roll, what?


I'd like the name of the track that has roll racing.

Don't be a smartass.


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RE: Me vs 97 Cobra - 3/9/2008 11:50:21 AM   
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ORIGINAL: SkillzDatKillz

quote:

ORIGINAL: BicketyBam

quote:

ORIGINAL: SkillzDatKillz

Yeah thats kind of what I was thinking too. I know not to understimate him, and I have heard he is a pretty good driver. But at the age of 16 i'm a little bit inexperienced, this race isn't going down until this summer when I get my license. He will probably beat me due to inexperience, unless I can somehow afford to get some headers, a CAI, and maybe an exhaust or something. Should I race from a roll?


Am I the only one that is terrified by the thought of a newly licensed 16 year old street racing?



Who said anything about street racing?



quote:

So what do you guys think will happen if I race this guy? Digg, Roll, what?


I'd like the name of the track that has roll racing.

Don't be a smartass.



Ed, he's probably one of the kids that just has to learn things the hard way. No matter how much he says he's not gonna race, everybody knows it's probably going to happen. What's a teenager's normal reaction when somebody tells 'em not to do something? lol Most, and I say again, most, would right away want to go do it just because somebody told them they couldn't.. I was that way at that age, and I learned my lesson the hard way when my Dad left me in jail for two days and sold my bike after I got busted racing. And that was sixteen years ago. But I DID learn a valuable lesson though.. Nobody got hurt and I learned to keep it on the track.. Mostly.. LOL All we can do brudda is offer advice, they're the one's who have to decide for themselves to take it..

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RE: Me vs 97 Cobra - 3/9/2008 11:53:45 AM   
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ORIGINAL: BicketyBam

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ORIGINAL: SkillzDatKillz

Yeah thats kind of what I was thinking too. I know not to understimate him, and I have heard he is a pretty good driver. But at the age of 16 i'm a little bit inexperienced, this race isn't going down until this summer when I get my license. He will probably beat me due to inexperience, unless I can somehow afford to get some headers, a CAI, and maybe an exhaust or something. Should I race from a roll?


Am I the only one that is terrified by the thought of a newly licensed 16 year old street racing?



Yea, Shouldnt people learn how to drive before they learn how to race?


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RE: Me vs 97 Cobra - 3/9/2008 12:25:21 PM   
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ORIGINAL: BicketyBam

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ORIGINAL: SkillzDatKillz

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ORIGINAL: BicketyBam

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ORIGINAL: SkillzDatKillz

Yeah thats kind of what I was thinking too. I know not to understimate him, and I have heard he is a pretty good driver. But at the age of 16 i'm a little bit inexperienced, this race isn't going down until this summer when I get my license. He will probably beat me due to inexperience, unless I can somehow afford to get some headers, a CAI, and maybe an exhaust or something. Should I race from a roll?


Am I the only one that is terrified by the thought of a newly licensed 16 year old street racing?



Who said anything about street racing?



quote:

So what do you guys think will happen if I race this guy? Digg, Roll, what?


I'd like the name of the track that has roll racing.

Don't be a smartass.



Buddy who ever said I was going to ever race, I was just wondering how my car would fair against this guy from different aspects of a race. Quit acting like a ****ing badass on the internet, dumbass. I'm 16 and probably have a higher ACT score than you.


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RE: Me vs 97 Cobra - 3/9/2008 12:25:50 PM   
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ORIGINAL: The Stig

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ORIGINAL: BicketyBam

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ORIGINAL: SkillzDatKillz

Yeah thats kind of what I was thinking too. I know not to understimate him, and I have heard he is a pretty good driver. But at the age of 16 i'm a little bit inexperienced, this race isn't going down until this summer when I get my license. He will probably beat me due to inexperience, unless I can somehow afford to get some headers, a CAI, and maybe an exhaust or something. Should I race from a roll?


Am I the only one that is terrified by the thought of a newly licensed 16 year old street racing?



Yea, Shouldnt people learn how to drive before they learn how to race?



Buddy, racing in a straight line isn't that hard. I can drive.


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RE: Me vs 97 Cobra - 3/9/2008 12:27:13 PM   
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ORIGINAL: BicketyBam

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ORIGINAL: SkillzDatKillz

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ORIGINAL: BicketyBam

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ORIGINAL: SkillzDatKillz

Yeah thats kind of what I was thinking too. I know not to understimate him, and I have heard he is a pretty good driver. But at the age of 16 i'm a little bit inexperienced, this race isn't going down until this summer when I get my license. He will probably beat me due to inexperience, unless I can somehow afford to get some headers, a CAI, and maybe an exhaust or something. Should I race from a roll?


Am I the only one that is terrified by the thought of a newly licensed 16 year old street racing?



Who said anything about street racing?



quote:

So what do you guys think will happen if I race this guy? Digg, Roll, what?


I'd like the name of the track that has roll racing.

Don't be a smartass.



i saw it, thought the same as you, but decided not to say anything.  unfortunately you won't get far in your arguement, there are too many kids out there whose parents buy them a brand new sports car.
but bottom line is the 96-98 cobras will go faster than 150, this is from experience, so i ask the OP not to argue.
in the end also, the cobra will be the R/T


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RE: Me vs 97 Cobra - 3/9/2008 12:27:51 PM   
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ORIGINAL: BicketyBam

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ORIGINAL: SkillzDatKillz

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ORIGINAL: BicketyBam

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ORIGINAL: SkillzDatKillz

Yeah thats kind of what I was thinking too. I know not to understimate him, and I have heard he is a pretty good driver. But at the age of 16 i'm a little bit inexperienced, this race isn't going down until this summer when I get my license. He will probably beat me due to inexperience, unless I can somehow afford to get some headers, a CAI, and maybe an exhaust or something. Should I race from a roll?


Am I the only one that is terrified by the thought of a newly licensed 16 year old street racing?



Who said anything about street racing?



quote:

So what do you guys think will happen if I race this guy? Digg, Roll, what?


I'd like the name of the track that has roll racing.

Don't be a smartass.



i saw it, thought the same as you, but decided not to say anything.  unfortunately you won't get far in your arguement, there are too many kids out there whose parents buy them a brand new sports car.
but bottom line is the 96-98 cobras will go faster than 150, this is from experience, so i ask the OP not to argue.



Well coming from a guy that owns one right now that lives about 5 minutes away from me is claiming 140 stock.

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RE: Me vs 97 Cobra - 3/9/2008 12:30:42 PM   
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Really? What's your ACT score?  And GPA? SAT?  Weight and height?  Penis size?  How much can you bench?  Body fat? Eh?  How many double cheeseburgers can you eat in one sitting?

Racing in a straight line isn't hard, but if you do it on the street make sure there is no traffic and no pedestrians present at all.  Your curious question has been pretty much answered already so there isn't that much to add.  When you get old enough, go race at the drag strip, it's awesome.


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RE: Me vs 97 Cobra - 3/9/2008 12:32:37 PM   
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Really? What's your ACT score?  And GPA? SAT?  Weight and height?  Penis size?  How much can you bench?  Body fat? Eh?  How many double cheeseburgers can you eat in one sitting?

Racing in a straight line isn't hard, but if you do it on the street make sure there is no traffic and no pedestrians present at all.  Your curious question has been pretty much answered already so there isn't that much to add.  When you get old enough, go race at the drag strip, it's awesome.




My ACT score is a 31.

I'm honestly not racing on the street, I don't know how old you have to be to race at a track but if 16 is the age, then It will definitely happen this summer. I could really care less if anyone here believes me, because, it is the internet.


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RE: Me vs 97 Cobra - 3/9/2008 12:34:32 PM   
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It depends on which track you go to.  I'm almost certain you need to be 18 to be able to race without parental consent, but if you aren't quite 18 I think you may just need your parents to fill out a form or something.  Go look at your local drag strip's website, they should have it listed on there so you know for sure.

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RE: Me vs 97 Cobra - 3/9/2008 12:38:42 PM   
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ORIGINAL: SkillzDatKillz

Yeah thats kind of what I was thinking too. I know not to understimate him, and I have heard he is a pretty good driver. But at the age of 16 i'm a little bit inexperienced, this race isn't going down until this summer when I get my license. He will probably beat me due to inexperience, unless I can somehow afford to get some headers, a CAI, and maybe an exhaust or something. Should I race from a roll?


Am I the only one that is terrified by the thought of a newly licensed 16 year old street racing?



Who said anything about street racing?



quote:

So what do you guys think will happen if I race this guy? Digg, Roll, what?


I'd like the name of the track that has roll racing.

Don't be a smartass.



Buddy who ever said I was going to ever race, I was just wondering how my car would fair against this guy from different aspects of a race. Quit acting like a ****ing badass on the internet, dumbass. I'm 16 and probably have a higher ACT score than you.



Enjoy your stay, son.

I couldn't even begin to tell you what my ACT score was.  I took it in 1984.

You don't even have a drivers license.  Please.


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RE: Me vs 97 Cobra - 3/9/2008 1:29:40 PM   
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Really? What's your ACT score?  And GPA? SAT?  Weight and height?  Penis size?  How much can you bench?  Body fat? Eh?  How many double cheeseburgers can you eat in one sitting?

Racing in a straight line isn't hard, but if you do it on the street make sure there is no traffic and no pedestrians present at all.  Your curious question has been pretty much answered already so there isn't that much to add.  When you get old enough, go race at the drag strip, it's awesome.




My ACT score is a 31.

I'm honestly not racing on the street, I don't know how old you have to be to race at a track but if 16 is the age, then It will definitely happen this summer. I could really care less if anyone here believes me, because, it is the internet.



If you don't care why did you get pissed off and start mouthing off to people? Most of us have seen too many stupid kids get hurt/killed, or hurt/kill someone else because they had more car than they could handle. You haven't even BEGUN to have any experience in the seat yet, so how do you know that once you're behind the wheel of that monster that mommy and daddy just bought you that you're not going to want to show off what you think you can make it do? It's a hell of a lot harder than it sounds..

Plus, if you go to an NHRA sanctioned track, the age limit IS 18 without parental consent, I believe the other leagues are pretty much the same, unless you go to a non-sanctioned track. Point is, we see a lot of dumb-a$$ kids in here that talk sh1t with NO experience in handling a car with that much power when the sh1t hits the fan, which more often than not, it DOES, racing on the street. Especially when there are other people around that don't deserve to be dead because you had your head up your a$$.. No one in here is perfect.. but by and large, most would probably tell you to take it to a track or sell the car until you've had your license a couple years..

That being said, track racing is actually a MUCH bigger rush than racing some idiot on the street..

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RE: Me vs 97 Cobra - 3/9/2008 1:43:05 PM   
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It depends on which track you go to.  I'm almost certain you need to be 18 to be able to race without parental consent, but if you aren't quite 18 I think you may just need your parents to fill out a form or something.  Go look at your local drag strip's website, they should have it listed on there so you know for sure.


Thanks for the info, i'll check it out soon.

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If you don't care why did you get pissed off and start mouthing off to people? Most of us have seen too many stupid kids get hurt/killed, or hurt/kill someone else because they had more car than they could handle. You haven't even BEGUN to have any experience in the seat yet, so how do you know that once you're behind the wheel of that monster that mommy and daddy just bought you that you're not going to want to show off what you think you can make it do? It's a hell of a lot harder than it sounds..

Plus, if you go to an NHRA sanctioned track, the age limit IS 18 without parental consent, I believe the other leagues are pretty much the same, unless you go to a non-sanctioned track. Point is, we see a lot of dumb-a$$ kids in here that talk sh1t with NO experience in handling a car with that much power when the sh1t hits the fan, which more often than not, it DOES, racing on the street. Especially when there are other people around that don't deserve to be dead because you had your head up your a$$.. No one in here is perfect.. but by and large, most would probably tell you to take it to a track or sell the car until you've had your license a couple years..

That being said, track racing is actually a MUCH bigger rush than racing some idiot on the street..


I'm pretty sure i'm not the one who started with the verbal strikes, please check the rest of the thread.

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Enjoy your stay, son.

I couldn't even begin to tell you what my ACT score was.  I took it in 1984.

You don't even have a drivers license.  Please.



Uh oh, we have a internet badass, WITH HIS LICENSE. OMG!!! YOU ARE SUCH A BADASS! TEACH ME PLEASE!!!


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