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Twin Turbo 351W Fox Convertible - 3/8/2008 7:46:52 AM   
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Been running a thread over in the 5.0 section on my build
but figured lot of you guys probably dont look over there.

351W/357ci swap with DIS ignition running on AEM computer and LS-1 coil packs

Shooting for 600+rwhp with mild boost of 10-12psi
Twin Garrett 60mm turbos and custom turbo cam
Fuel system is spec'd out to support 700+rwhp, so I can turn up
the boost if want. Probably end up running boost control thru the AEM as well

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RE: Twin Turbo 351W Fox Convertible - 3/8/2008 10:06:17 AM   
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SWEET RIDE!!!!! with 10 psi youll get way more then you bargained for in hp #s. if the block can handle it, crank that boost to about 16 and youll easily get 750+. awsome

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RE: Twin Turbo 351W Fox Convertible - 3/8/2008 10:10:21 PM   
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Are the turbo's held on by a V clamp ??? and did you take shorties and make the headers or did you have a complete custom set made and if so how much did you have to shell out for them ??? I have to say that this makes me want to complete my project car. Any paticular reason you went with a LS-1 coil packs or just to make it easier to time and tune?

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RE: Twin Turbo 351W Fox Convertible - 3/9/2008 8:49:57 AM   
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Turbos are held on by V-bands, might make small bracket to help hold cold side of turbo to body
with little rubber isolators though.

Those are ceramic coated 1 5/8 BBK shorty headers with collectors trimmed back,
and then swapped around to face forward.




LS1 coils were used because they have built in igniters and dont require
a secondary ingniter box, just wire them right into the AEM.


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RE: Twin Turbo 351W Fox Convertible - 3/9/2008 3:47:12 PM   
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I am looking at the headers and the "midpipe" between the Headers and the Turbo....Are you going to tap into that for the Wastegate ??? I was also wondering what your thoughts on the MegaSquirt EMS and if you would use it on your setup ??? I am planning on using this EMS and I am a little hesitant about it. I am building a similar project its a 88 coupe with 351W that is punched out to 408 ci and I wanna run either 205 or 225 heads (What is your thoughts on this?) with a compression ratio of about 9.0-9.5:1 then throwing on a twin turbo setup ( I will probably build the hot side myself but what size turbo do you feel that would do the best for spool time and efficiency? ) running about 4-8 psi on low boost and 10-12 psi on high boost. If all my questions get annoying let me know. 

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RE: Twin Turbo 351W Fox Convertible - 3/9/2008 5:16:16 PM   
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id watch your compression on most cars at anything over 10psi anything higher then 9:1 compression would be too high, its a general rule some times u can get away with it but then agian some people will have head gasket probelms at 9:1

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RE: Twin Turbo 351W Fox Convertible - 3/9/2008 7:47:54 PM   
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quote:

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id watch your compression on most cars at anything over 10psi anything higher then 9:1 compression would be too high, its a general rule some times u can get away with it but then agian some people will have head gasket probelms at 9:1


It's not the headgasket, its the tune ............ its all in the tune and the computer running it.

People like to blame compression levels and headgaskets, but its really crappy stock computers and over aggressive tunes
that blow motors and h/gs



Fox351: How much power are you looking to make ?
A 408W with 225cc heads and twin turbos will make 1000rwhp, do you really want that much power?


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RE: Twin Turbo 351W Fox Convertible - 3/9/2008 9:42:42 PM   
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k ill let him run stock head gaskets at 9.5:1 compression and we will see what happens , tune does play a big role but if your cylinder pressures are too high there is just nothing you can do except get a stronger head gasket and as cylinder pressures rise so do heat ratings, with added heat comes detonation, which will end up requiring you to run higher octane fuel etc. etc.. , compression is a big role.

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RE: Twin Turbo 351W Fox Convertible - 3/9/2008 11:28:53 PM   
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I was looking into the 6-700 hp range.....I was unaware that the combo would make such huge power....I thought I could run that and get within that power rating obviously I was sorely mistaken.

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RE: Twin Turbo 351W Fox Convertible - 3/10/2008 2:28:32 PM   
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the 408s, make good power N/A, it wouldnt take much boost at all to get you to 600-700 under 10psi on a properly built motor

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RE: Twin Turbo 351W Fox Convertible - 3/10/2008 2:42:14 PM   
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Anyone running stock or 1011 h/g's with boost deserves to have them blow out.

I'm running $100 a pop Cometics myself.


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RE: Twin Turbo 351W Fox Convertible - 3/10/2008 6:17:20 PM   
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badass nice stang

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RE: Twin Turbo 351W Fox Convertible - 3/11/2008 3:10:13 PM   
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Tial 38mm wastegate mounted


Downpipe done on one side









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RE: Twin Turbo 351W Fox Convertible - 3/13/2008 3:50:38 PM   
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Hot side is done. Both downpipes routed and hooked into H-pipe

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RE: Twin Turbo 351W Fox Convertible - 3/13/2008 6:10:13 PM   
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What size turbos are you running on there and what boost do you plan on running???



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RE: Twin Turbo 351W Fox Convertible - 3/13/2008 6:11:44 PM   
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T3/T4's basically a 50mm on the exhaust and 60mm turbo on the cold side.

10-12psi everyday and  15-16psi on race day


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RE: Twin Turbo 351W Fox Convertible - 3/14/2008 9:09:34 AM   
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the motor running again yet? thought i heard you had a problem and the motor had to come back apart

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RE: Twin Turbo 351W Fox Convertible - 3/14/2008 11:10:35 AM   
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the motor running again yet? thought i heard you had a problem and the motor had to come back apart


Nah, haven't pulled it yet. Going to yank it this weekend and take it back up to get warranty work done
while the turbo pipes are out getting coated.

I think the cylinder walls got fuel washed while we were trying to get DIS running right
and it killed the back rings. It's making good power and compression at 350rwhp N/A,
but it smokes like a bitch at idle without the vac pump running and had crappy leak down test.

I can be mounting the intercooler and working on cold side while all that is getting done too
So dont think I'll really lose much time having to pull it.


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RE: Twin Turbo 351W Fox Convertible - 4/13/2008 6:00:59 AM   
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Sweet ride dude. clean instal GL

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RE: Twin Turbo 351W Fox Convertible - 4/13/2008 9:13:18 PM   
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Very nice. You fabbed the kit yourself correct?

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