so today I almost had to come home and post pics of something terrible becuase I almost got T-Boned..[:@] (the good part is that in the end I came out unscathed)

So turning left out of a parking lot, I saw that there were no cars coming from the right (2 lanes in each direction), so I looked left to see a car turning into the lot--coast looked clear.. I checked back to the right (being the cautious driver I am..) and started to make the left. But very unluckily there was a car that was blocked from view by the car turning into the lot which was flying towards me (faster than speedlimit.. at least I think so.. I didnt care to recheck and waste time in the middle of the intersection). So I am about to get T-boned by this car and it breaks pretty hard and I gun it making the left.. My car did a large fishtail, kickin back and forth from the open diff.. I caught it the first time it kicked but the open diff over corrected again, causing the car to swing around more.. after regaining control and not dying I went on with my day.. kinda bothered by the way the car "drifted" after I gunned it..

Now after that lengthy story my question is this:

If I had a T-Lok, would I have been able to regain control after the car fishtailed once, or wud the same thing have happened regardless?

I hope this makes sense.. anyone who has had the car lose control for a second knows the snap the car does do correct it..

Thanks a bunch!

FM

With a t-lok.. you fishtail more because both tires lose traction.

interesting..

so I wudda died with a Tlok? ...more or less?

it could of hurt and it could of helped.

T-Lok would have helped both tires get traction. However, with the power our cars have without some decent tires, t-lok would have not helped much. Since I put my Nitto 555's on, I have alot more traction, better tires would have helped you out, and add a t-lok ontop of that it would have been a bonus as well.

And Put 200 LBS of Sand / Salt / Toilet paper in the trunk for rear end weight and wiping your ass after such driving mishaps, Glad your ok.

I have a question about the T-Loc. With the T-Loc is the axel locked completely or is it more like a limited slip differential? My concern with a lot of city driving that if both back wheels are locked then I will get premature wear when the outside wheels turning radius is greater than the inside wheel.

Unless you put in a spool (or weld the side/spider gears), there will always be some slip in the diff.

Or you could get a locker.. *CLUNK*

LOL

Epimetheus, yes the T-lok is a limited slip, not a full locker

man i know how u feel... i almost died the same way.... not cool

the GT comes standard with t-lok/lsd. just seems like a marketing strategy to keep a balance about which features will go on which car so that niether one gets left behind in expected sales.

ORIGINAL: exx1976

Unless you put in a spool (or weld the side/spider gears), there will always be some slip in the diff.

Or you could get a locker.. *CLUNK*

LOL


My dad talks about a "CLUNK" from the old days. So all the have to do is open up the diff drop the axels and put in the T-Loc and most everyone tells me that is also the best time to put gears in as well. I was thinking about the 3.73s instead of the 4.10s I will not be going to the track for anything other than myself. I'm just looking for more or less street performance. With the T-Loc and 3.73s, is that all I'll need or will I have to go with a 8.8 rear end. If that is the case should I just go with a GT take off. I have the pony package if that makes a differance.

Also can anyone direct me to a site or vender so that I can purchase whatI need.

ORIGINAL: Epimetheus

My dad talks about a "CLUNK" from the old days. So all the have to do is open up the diff drop the axels and put in the T-Loc and most everyone tells me that is also the best time to put gears in as well. I was thinking about the 3.73s instead of the 4.10s I will not be going to the track for anything other than myself. I'm just looking for more or less street performance. With the T-Loc and 3.73s, is that all I'll need or will I have to go with a 8.8 rear end. If that is the case should I just go with a GT take off. I have the pony package if that makes a differance.

Also can anyone direct me to a site or vender so that I can purchase whatI need.


i have ford 3.73's and FRPP t-lok in my garage waiting to be installed. hopefully tomorrow if i can get an appointment in today. i will post a thread on my experience with these LONG AWAITED gears. as to where i purchased, t-lok was $195 (FREE shippping) from chipsv6specialties.com. good vendor. i will definitley purchase through chip again. gears are used but in excellent condition. the plus to this is that they are Ford oem and already broken in.

Thanks for the link I checked it out and I look forward to the update. It says that the 3.73s are the best combo for autos and the plan for F/I.

I am having 3.73's anf a t-lok put in, both FRPP. It cost me $785 for parts, labor & tax. I will give you a review once they are broken in, because I will have my gears/t-lok for about a week before my CAI/Tune comes in.

And I went 3.73's because I too have heard that is the best ratio for F/I which is a possibility, if I don't go F/I, then its because I am satisfied with my setup, either way is a win win.

Just this past Friday I was pulling out of a gas station, like you I check left then right then left again and all was clear. Then out of now where was this woman in a mini-van talking on the cell phone right in front of me! I almost T-Boned her! My guess is she pulled out of a car lot and didn't even look to see if the coast was clear. I'm so glad all is well!

How much would it cost to have just a t-lok installed?

i say about $250-300

Are you saying$250-300 to include both parts and labor?

So is a better launch the only benifit you get from it?

Does a dealership install that? Or do you have to find a shop to do it?

You don't need a GT rear unless you spend A LOT of time a the track.. and even then.. It would take FI power to break our rears.

I did the 3.73/t-lok combo and could not be happier. At first I did not notice much of a difference because I was taking it easy... but for an auto.. it basically keeps the car "ready" to take off at any time.. that's the way I would describe it.

I like the t-lok because that is what i am used to; it's harder to break traction, but once you do you lose it in both wheels.. which makes you fishtail. Personally, I find this car to be very predictable, and have no problems when the rear slips out a little.. especially when i do it on purpose ;)

You will notice a big difference in traction when pulling out of a parking lot/gas station. When turning right, and if you take off with an open differential, you will really burn your drive (right) tire.
With a t-lok, your driver's side tire will grip, allowing you to actually take off and not squeal your peg leg.


ORIGINAL: Epimetheus

ORIGINAL: exx1976

Unless you put in a spool (or weld the side/spider gears), there will always be some slip in the diff.

Or you could get a locker..Â*Â* *CLUNK*

LOL


My dad talks about a "CLUNK" from the old days.Â* So all the have to do is open up the diff drop the axels and put in the T-Loc and most everyone tells me that is also the best time to put gears in as well.Â* I was thinking about the 3.73s instead of the 4.10s I will not be going to the track for anything other than myself.Â* I'm just looking for more or less street performance.Â* With the T-Loc and 3.73s, is that all I'll need or will I have to go with a 8.8 rear end.Â* If that is the case should I just go with a GT take off.Â* I have the pony package if that makes a differance.

Also can anyone direct me to a site or vender so that I can purchase whatÂ*I need.

Thanks for all the info, I'm sure this will be my next mod.

in a way yes because in a situation like that if the tires break loose you would be expecting it to slide more, or they could of not slid and you could of just gotten traction

ORIGINAL: Sancho805

the GT comes standard with t-lok/lsd. just seems like a marketing strategy to keep a balance about which features will go on which car so that niether one gets left behind in expected sales.


ford wanted to keep the cost of the V6s down, so they used the 7.5 rear, the weakest diff is the tlok due to them needing room for the clutch packs so it is slightly weaker then the open diff, i blew my open diff on a 100% stock 3.8 auto, others have doen the same
http://www.3.8mustang.com/forum/showthread.php?t=183112

no GT rear either, ive blown them on stock mach 1 power[8D], get a true trac or a eaton

Glad you are OK, Epimetheus!!

I've had that happen to me as well.

However, WITHOUT the T-LOK I would have been dead meat.

The T-LOK gives you power to both wheels when you need it (all the time).

As was already mentioned, the fishtailing due to adding the limited slip becomes predictable.

The peg-leg is predictable in that the car won't go anywhere when you nail it, or has a tendancy to push to the left (center of the car).

The T-LOK as you will see below, tends to push to the right.

http://media.putfile.com/Maxxine-Making-Noise-in-the-Driveway-27

After many hours of grueling practice (hahaha) I've pretty much got it down to a science.

And I can make my wife freak out at a moments notice while remaining in perfect control through the gears!

http://media.putfile.com/Breakin-Traction-and-1-2-upshift

I could have gone into 3rd but she would have beat me...

LOL


SOHC